Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah's message
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Topic: Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah's message
Posted By: Nausheen
Subject: Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah's message
Date Posted: 09 February 2015 at 5:42am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ti7BoL7VuA Her Majesty Queen Rania Al Abdullah's televised message for the Government Summit, Dubai ------------- <font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
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Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 09 February 2015 at 10:45am
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Queen Rania is an outstanding example of a modern Muslim woman. I haven't heard/read her whole message yet, but probably the strongest statement she makes is through her appearance. She is always dignified, confident and self-assured, and I've never seen her wearing a hijab. ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |
Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 10 February 2015 at 5:49am
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Yes Ron she is indeed very impressive.
Thank you for your comment. In this video she is telling the guest in the summit that the Jordanian representation will not be possible because the country is gripped in grief and loss of their piolet who has recently been murdered (burnt alive actually) by the Abu Bakr monsters. She is also asking the middle east to help the coalition against this group, amongst other things. I think we are writing new pages in history. The best thing now is that at least the wahabis are beginning to be exposed. Hopefuly someday in near future the world will dig into their history and find how they have first damaged islamic scholarship, victimised innocent, ordinary muslims before hijacking world peace on a global level. Peace! ------------- <font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 10 February 2015 at 10:18am
Salaam Alaykum It's really sad that you use terms like this. ------------- La Ilaha IllAllah |
Nausheen wrote:Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 10 February 2015 at 6:08pm
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I refrained many years but their extremism is beyond me now. Sorry if anyone else is offended, but I don't care if they are. ------------- <font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 11 February 2015 at 9:19am
As an insignificant atheist you seem to be hung up on the fact that believing Muslim women cover up for the sake of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala. It is a direct command from Him. May be your Queen Rania is not a practicing Muslim. ------------- La Ilaha IllAllah |
Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 11 February 2015 at 4:55pm
I presume you are referring to al-Noor (24):30, which advises women to "draw their veils over their bosoms". This is in the context of a general admonishment to modesty, and is meant only as an example. Describing how a veil should be worn is not a command that a veil must be worn, any more than passages describing how a man should treat his wife would mean that he must have a wife. I have no objection to women wearing a hijab if the local custom demands it. I do think, however, that powerful women in leadership positions such as Queen Rania can greatly promote the emancipation of women by challenging such customs. I also think that it is a mistake for a Muslim woman to wear a hijab in a western society where hijab is not part of the local custom and where she clearly has a choice to do otherwise. She is choosing to identify herself with a backward and misogynistic culture, which is unfortunate. ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 12 February 2015 at 7:21am
What ever happened to multiculturalism, arguably a cornerstone to liberal democracy? However, when it comes to Muslims, we hear such arrogant ethnocentric opinions. |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 12 February 2015 at 8:04am
Perhaps in these days of fitna upon our religious community, which has enveloped all Muslims, notwithstanding our many differing religious practices, and nomenclature with which we commonly refer to one another, maybe we should take a step back and concentrate on being just Muslim. Sectarianism is proving to be a dangerous slippery slope. Let us just keep it simple. In an authentic hadith, a man asked the Prophet, peace be upon him, 'If I perform the obligatory prayers, fast in Ramadan, treat as lawful that which is permissible, and forbidden that which is haram, and do not increase upon that, then shall I enter Paradise? The Prophet replied, 'Yes.' In a similar narration: A man asked, 'tell me what I can do to enter paradise?' The Prophet, peace be upon him said, 'Worship Allah and do not associate partners, establish salat, give zakat and fast during Ramadan.' The man said, 'I will not increase anything from this and will not decrease anything.' The Prophet, peace be upon him said, 'If anyone is pleased to see a person from Paradise then look to that man.' Hopefully we can all agree upon this. |
Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 12 February 2015 at 8:24pm
Though perceive your sentiment, I beg to differ. I would say killing non-muslims is not essential for entering paradise, so many who think they are muslims, while desiring paradise should concentrate on the hadith you have quoted and stop bunrning, shooting and beheading those who do not agree with their ideologies - because really as you stated through these quotes, getting into paradise IS a simple matter - nobody has to make life 'hell' for others in order to achieve it. This extremism has taken birth in the takfeer at muslims, insolent arguments and reckless remarks about kufr, bidah and shirk. I'd rather run a word of caution amongst mulims against identifying themselves in the ranks of those who adhere to such demeanors. Therefore nomenclature is more important than ever before. Lastly, there is no compulsion in religion. Therefore if one works to just enter or aspires to be rewarded with Jannat-ul-firdaus, is totally up to them. There is no hadith to stop them from such aspirations. ------------- <font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 12 February 2015 at 9:03pm
If that's the case, than my opinion is to be careful not to overgeneralize, and be as specific as possible, keeping in mind that your definition and frame of reference of a "wahabi" may not hold the same meaning and understanding for other readers. Frankly speaking, I think such discussions are more appropriately handled by qualified scholars and not laity. Rhetoric has consequences, and the scholars of our religion are protected when applying themselves yet making a mistake. And Allah Knows Best. |
Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 7:09pm
Equality of all citizens is even more fundamental to democracy. If a culture makes women virtual chattel to men -- if it does not allow them to walk down the street without a man to accompany them, if they cannot even leave the house without a man's permission, if their testimony is worth only half that of a man, etc. -- then such a culture has no place in a modern democracy . No, not all women who wear hijab represent such a culture, but all such cultures require their women to wear hijab. If a Muslim woman wants to distance herself from extremist interpretations of Islam, and express solidarity with women who are oppressed by them, then I can think of no better way to do so than to choose not to wear a hijab. I applaud Queen Rania for her principled stand for women's rights. ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |
Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 14 February 2015 at 9:00am
| Ron, once a person from any faith lives here in the west, presumably they have equality under the law. Cultural norms and religious laws are not the same. If a woman chooses to adhere here religion she has that right and especially in a democratic society. Calling her backwards for doing so only reflects your personal bias. This weekend, in my city, there is an underwear-walk-a-thon for charity, where participants walk only in their undies; culturally progressive? |
Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 14 February 2015 at 6:20pm
I'm not calling her backward. (I did say that not all women who wear hijab represent such a culture.) I'm saying that if she wants to distance herself from such cultures, she should choose (because unlike them she has a choice) not to dress in ways that make her appear to be part of them. My understanding is that Muhammad advised his male followers to have beards (which also is not a command found in the Quran) in order to distance themselves from pagan cultures which were clean-shaven at the time. This too is obsolete, IMHO. If Muhammad were alive today he might well recommend that male Muslims shave off their beards in order to distance themselves from the extremists who have hijacked Islam, just as he would advise women not to look like extremists. Most of the stuff in the hadiths were only applicable at the time, and were never intended to be preserved and dredged up as binding on Muslims a thousand years later. ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |
Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 23 February 2015 at 11:27pm
A samll note: A couple of weeks ago, when Queen Rania went to give her condolences to the female members of the family of the pilot who was burnt by ISIS, she was covering her head. Remarkably all women in that group were wearing a hijab. She not only not distanced herself from them, rather respected their 'culture'. I respect her for this show of solidarity. ------------- <font color=purple>Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 27 February 2015 at 7:10pm
Of course, one must dress according to the circumstances. Delivering condolences is not an appropriate time for ideological or political grandstanding. Besides, when you are a guest in someone else's home, you abide by their rules. My wife also covered her head when attending a wedding at a mosque. ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |