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ISIS carreis wahabi ideologies - a sketch.

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Topic: ISIS carreis wahabi ideologies - a sketch.
Posted By: Nausheen
Subject: ISIS carreis wahabi ideologies - a sketch.
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 12:13am

Why ISIS is a threat to Saudi Arabia: Wahhabism�s deferred promise

For an accurate assessment of the danger represented by the project of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), an overall reading of the Saudi political mindset is necessary. The Wahhabi Saudi state was established in the mid-18th century out of an alliance between Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdel Wahhab and Prince Mohammed bin Saud in 1744. This alliance founded a religious state based on a power-sharing arrangement between the cleric and the prince that was supposed to monopolize Sunni political representation and prevent the emergence of any other competing entity within the general Islamic public sphere.

Full Article http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/21234 - http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/21234

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Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 2:23am
There is NO such thing as wahabism in ideology or as a following.  
Muhammad ibm abd Al Wahabi only preached to get rid of suprestitions such as grave worship, saints etc. There is no movement called wahabism.

Perhaps as you are a Sufi you may think that the rest of the Muslims are wahabis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Abd_al-Wahhab -

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Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 3:27am

I did not write that article.

And am sure, you have not taken the time to read it.

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Posted By: Emettman
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 6:04am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

There is NO such thing as wahabism in ideology or as a following.


As I have done before, I can only suggest you look more at the world as it is, rather than contemplate your own more idealised image of Islam.

http://www.islamicsupremecouncil.org/understanding-islam/anti-extremism/7-islamic-radicalism-its-wahhabi-roots-and-current-representation.html - Source
"Radicalism, in various forms, has made significant inroads in several countries of Central Asia and in the Caucasus - in particular the three countries that share the Ferghana Valley, namely Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikstan, Chechnya, and the Russian Republic of Daghestan. Known as fundamentalism or "Wahhabism," it poses a direct challenge to the ideal vision of a state that the newly founded nations of the region have embraced. In addition, the broader ideology name "Wahhabism" represents a serious challenge to the theology and practice of the mainstream Sunni Islam to which most of these nations' populations adhere."

People might argue to find the limits where Wahhabism is in accord with other understandings of Islam, and where it diverges, and diverges markedly, but there is no shortage of material from Islamic sources that have not the slightest doubt about the existence of Wahhabism, and are mostly decrying and refuting its projection of Islam. (This being seen from the inside of the movement as the correct one, of course.)
If it doesn't exist what are they railing against?

Chris.




Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 13 February 2015 at 6:26am
Abu Loren,

I don't know if you are so unaware of the reality behind the ISIS movement, or you are simply offended by the word wahhabism, or both.

Muhammad bin Abd al Wahhab started a movement in the 18th centurary. It was not just against the sufis, but a lot more. The ISIS follow his concepts. Nobody can go so drastically off track preventing people from worshiping graves that they start shooting and killing insanely.
The recent posts I have made is primarily to highlight this fact.

If you read these you may comprehend what the world has come to understand and is now trying to communicate (make common knowledge).


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