living in a free and stable country
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Topic: living in a free and stable country
Posted By: Caringheart
Subject: living in a free and stable country
Date Posted: 15 April 2015 at 8:46pm
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I wish everyone could hear this, and understand the beauty that is the United States of America. Once an Arafat Man http://media.focusonthefamily.com/fotf/mp3/fof_daily_broadcast/ffd_2015/2_april_may_june/ffd_20150407.mp3 ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
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Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 16 April 2015 at 11:10am
Modern America is like Sodom and Gomorrah of old. ------------- La Ilaha IllAllah |
Caringheart wrote:Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 16 April 2015 at 5:12pm
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Greetings Abu Loren, In many ways, yes, so is most of the world... but this person is speaking of something different. asalaam and blessings to you, Caringheart ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 17 April 2015 at 2:58am
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The reason that the USA is succesful is not that it is Christian but that it is tollerant of any faith and of none. A society which allows diversity of thought will get a right answer to any question a lot quicker than one which forces conformity. Unity is st**idity. It is also strength. Like a bull in a bull ring. Clever beats strong. |
Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 17 April 2015 at 4:29am
America more so than the rest of the world. Sodom personified. ------------- La Ilaha IllAllah |
Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 17 April 2015 at 5:13am
Just to try to get it clear, what is it about America society that you don't like? I would like to understand the bits outside forign policy. I understand why the world thinks they are *****s. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 17 April 2015 at 1:46pm
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There's really no point commenting if you haven't listened to the link to understand what the topic of the thread is. asalaam,  ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 17 April 2015 at 4:41pm
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For those (like me) who aren't willing to invest a half hour into an audio file, the transcript is here: http://www.focusonthefamily.com/media/daily-broadcast/my-dramatic-conversion-from-islam-pt1 - http://www.focusonthefamily.com/media/daily-broadcast/my-dramatic-conversion-from-islam-pt1 Frankly though, I'm not sure what the topic is. I didn't see much in the interview about "living in a free and stable country" (maybe it's in part two?). Here is what Tass Saada, the subject of the interview, said about what changed his plans (italics added):
In short, suddenly he had something, and someone, to love for. ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 17 April 2015 at 5:18pm
Hi Ron, What I was struck by was how he shared the fact that his anger came from always being made to feel an outsider in other societies, and when he came to the United States he was struck by how he was not treated that way... it is essentially what won his heart... not the girl... the fact that he was not treated as less than, just because he came from another place. For me the topic is about equality and acceptance... being treated with equal respect... and what a difference it makes. Anger is the enemy, and his anger dissipated once he arrived in the United States and saw how people treated him. asalaam and blessings, Caringheart ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |
Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 18 April 2015 at 10:35am
Yes, I think there is some truth in that as well. It reminds me of Ayaan Hirsi Ali's description of arriving in the Netherlands and being absolutely amazed at how complete strangers treated her with courtesy and respect. Even the government officials actually seemed to care about her and were willing to help her, without any tribal connection or religious obligation or expectation of bribery. And we do take that sort of thing for granted, don't we? It's hard to imagine living in a society that doesn't work that way, but I guess it's more common than we might think. On the other hand, I have often read the opinion that much of the murder and mayhem in the world is rooted in the frustration of young, single men who have no hope of a normal family life or a fulfilling relationship with a woman. I think that also played a significant role here. By the way, I should mention the typo I made in my previous message. I meant that he had something to live for, not something to "love" for -- though maybe that's not a bad wording either.  ------------- Addeenul �Aql � Religion is intellect. |
Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 18 April 2015 at 10:48am
hehehe - I caught that and wasn't quite sure which you meant, but yes, it works either way. ------------- Let us seek Truth together Blessed be God forever "I believe in Jesus as I believe in the sun... not because I see it, but because by it, I see everything else.: - C.S.Lewis |