All Woman are Leaders in Islam and Leaders in Life!

Salam Aliakoam

Though I am tempted to criticize a comment of a woman not being a good leader I will say that the reality of the matter is that sex has noting to do with being a good leader!

All women are Leaders in Islam!

Woman are the corner stone and foundation of civilization, we bare the children whom every man desires but he himself can never do such a feat!

Woman have stood behind many a man and supported him on his mission and have born the burden of being sexual exploited, abused and tortured with dignity that goes beyond the scope a man can understand.

Woman have raised the children and cared for the home, educated herslf, held high positions and great trust and been worthy of it.

Khadejeh Mohammed's PBUH wife was a leading woman of business and well respected even by Mohammed PBUH.

It was his wife that encouraged him to take up the call from Allah when he was shivering in his blankets to have courage and accept the call!

Woman can be great leaders and we are every day and like men we have good days and bad days that does not make us bad leaders or not worthy of trust it makes us human just like our mates, men.

I think using that lame excuse that it says it in the Quran in this case is just another way of saying I am scared of the leadership of woman that they might if they have the upper hand abuse us men like we abused them if the got the chance if they/we have leadership roles.

I never met a leader that was a good leader who intentiallly abused anyone!

May Allah guide you well, it is the year 2006 not 567Ad.

Not all woman want to be mothers or wives or home makers and from what I have seen except for abusive men every man wants his wife to have an income of her own and not be depended on him.

We are your equalin every respect and we have proven it more than abundantly, why do you wish to repress the advancement of women at their expense all because your afraid they might be better at the job than you are.

Just my thoughts on this I am sure youtr not one of those men who want their wife barefoot and preganant and home all the time are you?

If you are at least provide for your family in such a way that your wifes intellectual, physical and spiritual needs are fully met including activities she has full fredom to do like exercising and education , counseling and consultation to resolve her needs and challenges.

Not to mention no fear of physical, emotional or sexual abuse from you at any time and if it has happen then seek counseling as soon as possible because her health and well being is the health and well being of the family not just yours or the children.

Myself I have been through great trials and fortunately I have come through them with a more positive attitude all due to my family being positive with me not to mention the excellence in counseling, education and consultation I recieved and making my own personal Hajj, Sacride Pilgrimage to my life and my family.

What ever your life situation may Allah guide you well, may you be kind to all and respectful even to those you count less than yourself for you know not what their journey or trials have been and why they have choosen to act out in such a manner.

May Allah bring peace to your heart and open your mind for a New unfolding world that is more caring, compassionate and a world that is getting better at empowering people to be their best even though it seems one heart at a time.  Inshallah that number will grow and Islam, True Islam will be made fully Manifest in the days ahead.

Mahsallah may our heart, minds and souls become the ready army in World Arising Responsibly and Spiritually in peaceful, lawabiding and caring ways to everyone and the seen and the unseen with many affirmations of faith Inshallah, I am ready are you?

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

We Move and Motive the World, let it be with kindness, generousity, compassion, mindfullness and most of all appreciation for this truely magnificant World ney Heaven Allah has set at our feet for all to take benifit from.

The time of wars of violence and blood taking are over we must unit and wage Jihad for the Earth herself for her plight is now one dangerously close to the end of times if we do not look after her.

Recycle, be environementally conscious in all you do as best you can.

Her body and being is part of the seen and unseen and it is her gifts that nourish us we must remeber her in our days in all we do, as best we can.

Bismillah,

Alaykum Assalaam, Sister Anne Marie, I agree that many women are born leaders, caring for our children and families, getting things done that need to and having them get done as well.  I am not a leader although I have done some good things in my life.   Directing children to the straight path challenges the best of us.  ISA, we grow stronger and better at it each day.

I disagree that men will never know the hardships that we face.  Some men have suffered more than I ever will.  May Allah, SWT, give them strength.  Suffering is so personal.  How can we claim to have suffered more than all others?  I have suffered more than many people and have learned a lot about life because of it, so it has been a strange blessing, but a blessing from our Merciful Lord nonetheless.

Unfortunately, I don't see an end to the wars and bloodshed in the near future.  Maybe you are referring to the Christian thousand years of peace?

Alaikoam Salam

In acknowldeging the suffering of woman and children I do not neglect the suffering of men, just in this particular thread mentioned it because some people feel woman have not been good leaders and historical figures have made such comments.

I believe woman are excellent leaders and so can children be, if we are conscious we set an example by what we do or do not do then maybe more people would be mindful and care more about what they do or do not do.

I would not agree that you Herjihad have not been a good leader in some portions of your life.

Acting submissive really does nothing for the advancement of you, mankind or anyone.

We were create equal and mates so as to populate the world and be gaurdians of this world.

Sister do not sell yourself short it does not become you.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Good topic here, but Annie if I may interject and no offense to women or sisters aborad but for any woman to say "I am a leader because I can create civilization because I can give birth" is a clichesque remark. Not only is that untrue but that argumenet lacks any credibility. first and foremost the miracle of giving birth comes from God. Second, women cannot miraculously bear children on their own, therefore they need men without men, women cannot bear children not even in the lab sense plain and simple. I am for one an advocate of women as I was raised by a woman but this argument has become tiresome. I do however like your ending where you mention that we as humans are a ll equal on this earth.

If you wish to discuss the importance of women in the roles of leadership perhaps this subject is best for the womens section as this is interfaith sister.

Alaikoam Salam

Point well taken.

I believe that this is a good interfaith topic as many faiths neglect or subject woman to the back seat when it comes to acknowledging we can be good no excellent leaders and role models.

I of course cannot say either sex has lesser stature in terms of leadership, I believe we are equal and we all have our strengths and weaknesses.

As for women being Prophets there are many examples in the bible and of course you know I believe we are all Prophets and Messiah and that we are all tested the same way the traditional Prophets were tested in our daily lives and need not go into isloation to find revealation.

That is of course my belief and opinion.

There have been many woman in history in religious and non religious communities that have made their name a household word but for everyone of them are Billions whose names may never be globally known except in the positive differences they made in their families, communities, nation and world in many ways.

Salam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Read the bible again there was the Prophetess Anna, and others like The Queen of Sheba......

Prophets are not just men, never were and never will be only men!

My opinion of course!

Salam

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Thank you Anne for moving this topic into a new string.

As for Prophets being only men, or from your opinion, women being prophets - I guess if you discern the meaning of "prophet" from Quranic point of view, the women you mentioned were leaders but not prophets.

Prophets and messengers are sent with a divine mission, and the way they are in touch with God is different from ordinary people.

From both men and women there have been leaders who were not chosen for this divine connection between them and God, thus they cannot be given the status of prophets.  In this I would agree with brother who said that women have never been prophets.

Otherwise we have seen many great women connected to our faith, who have been ahead of both men and women in excellent ways. One such example is Hadrath Ayesha radiallahu anha, the beloved wife of our holy prophet (SAW).

Maa salaama,

Nausheen

Alaikoam Salam

I believe we are all sent with a MISSION!

Best the Best We can Be and help make the World a Better Place INSHALLAH!

I believe whether We are Man or Woman Allah has plans for us, not just any plan but Great Plans!

That is why Excellent Education, Counseling, Consultation with a Personal Sacride Hajj (Pilgrimage) to our own lives at some point is so important also to the lives of our Families, Communities and Nations seeing where we need education, counseling, consultation and guidance to resolve any challenges we or they may have and to see where we can offer guidance or assistance of some kind.

Imagine! Inshallah a Life and world of caring and sharing and peace and both genders acknowledged as irreplaceable and valueable and valued.

My opinion of course.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

That's a good topic, but I would not completely agree to the statement that "ALL WOMEN ARE GOOD LEADRES" or "ALL MEN ARE GOOD LEADERS". Some men can be very good leaders and some women can be very good leaders. The leadership is not restricted to either sex but differs from personality. Like in my opinion Tony Blair is a good leader but George Bush is the worst leader I have ever come across.

Secondly, the Prophethood is different from leadership. There are other reasons as to why women were not made leaders and some I have tried to explain in the other forum "Jesus Medhi kills the swine" posted on 16 Jan 2006.

Shams Zaman   Pakistan. 

Bismillah,

A leader gets other people to do what they want them to do.  And I am terrible at that.  I hate approaching it.

Mission.  Hmm.  Well, I am sure that this very Christian idea is the same thing that destroys many lives.  They feel they have to find their mission in life and ignore the responsiblities that Allah, SWT, has given them.

Submission is my goal.  I look for ways to submit to Allah, SWT.  Shall I be strong and loud today, or quietly encouraging?  Surely part of this is caring for my family the best way I can.  Then I will contribute to the larger community as Allah, SWT, guides me to and provides me the opportunity.

But I know that in just the act of living as Allah, SWT, has required me to do, I am succeeding.  Al-HamdulilahirRabil Alameen.

Alaikoam Salam

Of course we have a MIssion and that is to be the best person we can be!  And to empower others to be their best too Inshallah!  Anything less than this is a waste of this wonderful life Allah gave each of us.

Of course caring for your Family is an integral part of this Mission or life purpose.

We have to ask ourselves are we empowering, nurturing and guiding ourselves and our families well.

If there are any issues of abuse or abusive, self abusive behavior then we need excellent guidance and treatment plans to heal from this abuse as the long term affects can hamper our spiritual and emotional developement.

Allah wants us to be our best and for this He has set in our communities agencies and trained staff that can help us and our families cope with all the issues that we are forced to cope with on a daily basis.

Patience is important however if you are abusing anyone or being self abusive like over eating, drinking alchol or doing drugs that are not prescribed then you need some help.

I recognise not all all people are having these kinds of troubles so this advice is for them as well as you should you know anyone having those kind of troubles.

There is hope and our communities are building infra structures and community support agencies and staff and volunteers to assist with this Great Sorting Out of People into Groups Inshallah Surah 99, 1-8

Though I will not go into detail of my history lets put it this way I have been through a great deal and am finally making a more full recovery thanks to the support of this community infra structure staff and volunteers and their support to turn my life around.

Though I am tempted to ask sometimes why did I have to experience the things I did, I believe Allah, God, The Creator tested me very highly and I believe that I am begining to pass the tests he has/had set out for me.

When a loved one becomes ill and abuses themselves or others it is so hard to look the other way and not try and help in some way and the best way is to be supportive and guide them to excellent counselors, educators and have them consulted on how they want their treatment to progress.

Mahsllah may you have courage to face your challenges and get community support to meet them with courage, patience and true justice which is Education, Counseling, Consultation witrh a Sacride Personal Hajj (Pilgrimage) to all levels of your life, your family, community and Nation and see where you need guidance recieve it and make changes or adjustments and offer where you can your assistance with some challenge you found to help others.

There is hope and it begins with each of us!

Mahasllah!

Anne Marie Eldekin Habibi

Annie another comment I disagree with.

Prophethood  and all what it entails to be a prophet contains the obligation of leadership. How could Jesus or Moses have led their people to attain the knowledge of God through revealed teachings if they weren't leaders? Even teachers of our society are leaders although they lack the attribute of prophethood anyone with some ability to teach or to organize a group is a leader.

Brother Suleyman although he is my brother and his intention is well I'd have to disagree with his comment. "Some women are not fit for leadership" hence "all women are not leaders." Like I made the comment before because a woman can give birth is not a miracle she has created, but an attribute God has given to the female species which is to give life and replenish the human population. The same as giving me the ability to generate sperm cells to start the process of life. Like Annie said it is about the personality of the person, not their sex that determines their greatness.

Alaikoam Salam

According to science birthing a live off spring is a miracle considering all the things that can happen during the pregnancy and conception.

Myself I believe that each of us is a Prophet and that there are stories both good and bad in all our lives that can be told as Surah's in an never ending Quran or Book of Islam, Book of Life and people will choose to take what they will and leave what they will.

In some peoples eyes one has to create a religion to be a prophet and I say we all are participants in creating a spiritual world for all to live in and enjoy if only everyone would work on this.

Making mistakes is part of the human process though those who knowingly go against Allah, God, The Creator have a bigger burden to carry I believe, unfortunately those are usually the ones with no consciance.

Even those people with a dark side or drawn to the dark side are prophets though they refuse to accept their portion of resonsibility for the world.

Essentially the responsiblity for caring for the spiritual and physical worlds is up to each of us, no one person can possibly carry the burden no could they ever no matter how hard they try.

The burden of caring for the world, ourselves, our families, communities and Nations is up to each of Us not just someone you want to place on a pedistal!

No the center of control is with each of us doing our part to make a difference and getting the education, counseling, consultation and making a periodical Hajj or sacride pilgrimage to all levels of our lives, our families, communities and Nations.

Though we have been sorting out for thousands of years we need to prepare for a Global sorting out in every Nation to prepare the people for the work ahead at restoring the earth before she gives up the ghost!

Mahallah hopefully you will understand there is not going to be one person to come along anymore that will accept more than their share of responsibility for themselves, their families, their community, their Nations no the job of being a Prophet or someone who makes a difference is everyones job!

Hense the Education, Counseling and Consultation a Community effort.

Besides Jesus may not be who you want him to be.

Besides why wait for Jesus to do it when you can do it yourself!  LOL

Oh and he has already accepted Islam.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Again Annie this is where I contradict your position regarding prophethood! we all are not prophets although we contain the same mechanism as prophets of old it takes a special human being to convey the messge of God as well as peform  signs not of this world. These were prophets and sorry to say Annie they were indviduals of their time. When we are to lead people to God it requires not only the full knowledge of what we are teaching people but also training. I remember from the last time you laughed this off but this is quite valid. For example look at the story of Moses rom Bible to Qur'an. Moses although not linguistically capable of conveying the message of God he was trained although with the knowledge of God to lead the Children of Israel out of Egypt. We do we remember Moses as the primary leader and not Aaron? Because Moses is the one who lead his people not his brother.

Through divine intuition one can lead the masses to feats greater than can imagine. I agree, that modern leaders of today can lead the masses but to make individuals out as prophets in this sense is contraditory to the prophets of old for they weren't just leaders but those who came in the name of God and proved it through intuative thought and action. If we are all prophets in the sense of us being capable leaders then yes but we are not prophets as Jesus and Muhammad were. We are are therefore deduce to being leaders of our communities which we are nothing more.

Alaikoam Salam

Yes Leaders in our selves our families, communities, Nations and World!

We all have an affect in the greater picture!

I believe that we are Prophets, Messiah ie the one to lead!

None of us is excempt!

We all learn something from our relationships and interactions with everyone.

Who is to say in the greater picutre what the real value is of these actions or behaviors in the great scheme of things.

I believe we should not sell ourselves short or make our value less than it really is!

Everyone has a high station however most do not accept or recognise it.

That is why excellence in education, counseling, consultation and cooperation is so important so we are all empowered to be our best!

There is hope and it begins with each of us being empowered to be our best!

This is my belief and I believe in each of us and our ability to become the best we can each be to our capacity!

We are all Leaders, Prophets, Messiah or one with the Mission to be our best and make the world a wonderful place to live that lasts forever!

Mahsallah may you believe one day as I do!

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Perhaps Sister Habibi is conteneously missing the point, there is difference between Prophets, leaders and preachers.

We all are preachers some are of evil while others of good and love. Most of among are leaders, some are leading people to go astray and commit evil while other are leading people towards love and blessings. But to consider that we all are Prophets means not conceiving the concept of Prohpethood.

Some mothers are bad mothers as we saw few killed their children by drowning in bath tub ar shuting them into cupboard. But most are responsible and good leaders. There is a saying that, Give me good mothers and I will give you a good nation. So leadership is not restricted to sex or gender but it is universal. However, not everyone is a good leader.

Shams Zaman  

Alaikoam Salam

No in other words we are all Prophets and the stories of our lives make up a never ending Quran from which to find guidance and encouragment.

Though admittedly some people are more bent on negative behavior however this can be turned around too Inshall with excellence in Education, Counseling, Consultation and a personal sacride Hajj/Pilgrimage to our lives, our families, communities, Nations and world to see where we need guidance or education, counseling consultation and get the tools we need to address any crisis in our lives or our families and at the same time where possible be of service to others.

The Quran is fine the way it is, though the new stories to be told in new Surah's will further guide others to the right path maybe with a little more caring.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Alaikoam Salam

You are intitled to your opinion and I am intitled to mine.

One day you will understand Inshallah and soon.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

No dear ak_m_f !

I don't think she would understand, Sura Baqra(2) says in following verses: "2.  This Book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who guard (against evil).
3.  Those who believe in the unseen and keep up prayer and spend out of what We have given them.
4.  And who believe in that which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter.
5.  These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful.
6.  Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe.
7.  Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them.
8.  And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers.
9.  They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive.

10. There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied"

Shams zaman  Pakistan
 

Alaikoam Salam

So your passing judgement on me??

There is hope, read some more counseling and psychology books then maybe you will understand.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

well I cannot being at all like a Prophet..

To me a Prophet is someone whose essence is so 'good'. For lack of a better word. Almost beyond my comprehension.. what must that be like? But to differing degrees we are all quite weak. The Prohets (PBUH) have something beyond us.  Those people in the history of humankind on earth are relatively few.

Are all women leaders.. no. Are all men.. no. Who would follow we all were that? Individuals all have different types of potential. We all have something to contribute.

Bismillah,

Ameen, Sister Hayfa!

Hayfa wrote: well I cannot being at all like a Prophet.. To me a Prophet is someone whose essence is so 'good'. For lack of a better word. Almost beyond my comprehension.. what must that be like? But to differing degrees we are all quite weak. The Prohets (PBUH) have something beyond us.  Those people in the history of humankind on earth are relatively few. Are all women leaders.. no. Are all men.. no. Who would follow we all were that? Individuals all have different types of potential. We all have something to contribute.

Alaikoam Salam

Dear sisters it is my duty to inform you that your lives could be the next Surahs and Ayats to be told for the next ten thousand years elhamdullah.

We are all Prophets, Messiahs or essentially we are all Messengers of Allah, God, The Creator and in saying so it is important to reflect on our duty and our duty is to know and love Allah, God the Creator as well love ourselves and others.

The challenges are to turn the tide of negative actions and behaviors into positive and productive actions and behvoirs and direct them to positive activities like hobbies, playing sports, making theater, drama, learning skills needed in the community, family, Nation.

I cannot say this loudly enough the world ie the environment is kicking butt and we have to kick back but in a loving way so deseases will be only a once in a while occurance.

We need excellence in education, counseling, consultation so everyone is empowered to be their best and working as part of the Earth team to make the world and ourslves a wonderful people and a blessing to one another and the earth rather than a curse.

True justice is education, counseling, consultation and making a sacride Hajj, Pilgrimage to ourselves, our families, our communities, our Nations and world and see where we need guidance on these things or where we are skilled to give guidance or assistance to others.

The Holy Book is a Book that is never finished and is always being rewritten and each time the story gets better.

Well I hope so.

This is dedicated to My Children, Family, Friends and Community and PT.

 Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

 Alaikoam Salam

The fact is self evident, the Prophet Peace be upon Him was an ordinary guy too and yet His taking up the challenge from Allah has been a story related for the last how many years.

Clearly each of our stories can be stories to be told for generations and it is my belief we are all called to be good people and be Gaurdians of ourselves, others and the World are we not?

Essentially the key factor here is renewing the call to being a good person, learning and being educated, counseled and consulted so we all have the tools we need to meet our challenges in a dignified manner that respects ourselves, others and the World and not with holding or leaving anyone out of the loop of knowledge.

Basically we can choose to be evil or we can choose to be good, though there are variations on the temptation factor for either direction.

I would suggest that inspiring humanity to take on the brighter side and rescue this weary world from a bleak existance and challenge everone to share and care.  Surah 99, 1-8 this is the Earth Quake.

Of course this at first may seem like an open feild day but it is not, essentially, we need education to have the skills to cope with our challenges and leaving anyone out of the loop means a chance for crisis when it can be averted especially with open lines of communication and age appropriate materials or strrategies.

Besides I believe that warring parties could learn to vie for positive challenges such as learning to skate, ride a bike, play a guitar, play a flute, learn to paint or draw, how to do first aid and CPR not to mention skills to have employment.

We have the technology Huston it is up to us to renew the sorting process so everyone can see where they have done poorly and learn better skills with dealing with their challenges and this is one Surah I want to have retold and told again and that is the Surah explaining how we accomplish the Greatest wonder in all the World...Personal and World Peace on a Personal, Family, Community, Nation and Global scale.

I am not saying rewrite the Quran for that is not the challenge what is the challenge is to write a newer one where challenges are faced with more courage, respect and dignity on a momunental scale a great and vast undertaking with all the stops pulled out and teams ready for the challenges.

I know we can achive personal and World Peace by restoring Faith, Hope, Trust and Truth.

Inshallah a great sorting out and resolution groups and teams with strategies in how everyone wins including the environment.

Call me crazy, call me a dream but do not tell me we can not accomplish this because I know we can.

The whole picture ay be bigger than my mind can appreciate but it can be done and we can accomplish this task the task Allah set before us since our creation and that is namely Personal and World Peace.

There is hope, I found it and I share it the best I can.

Inspired by Surah 99, 1-8 and a great health care and educational team though they are still working out the details..

It is my Prophecy that if everyone should arise to work on this effort we will have Personal and World Peace within One Hundred Years or a couple of minutes depending on the challenge.

Oh by the way the Earth herself is a little tired of all the Waring in violence and distruction and would like to see some education, counseling, consultation along with Hajj or a sacride Pilgrimage to our own lives, our families, communities and Nations and work on World Arising Responsibly and Spiritually.

All I can say is you do not want the Earth Mad! LOL

Nor Heaven for that matter so lets get to work!

Besides just paying attention to family issues and rebuilding families, and the environment will keep us busy for at least a Hundred years or so not to mention the individual challenges.

Every child is a Child of Allah and is part of His Spirit and Creation care for the people, the planet and you care for Him and His very being.

Basically we have another wake up call and He is giving us a for warning however His real wish is to give us His blessings on our efforts at empowering all Mankind not just some of Us to be our best.

We are the light of the world and let us find good positive ways to let that bright light shine and no longer be shaowed by anger, violence or hate or revenge.

The best revenge is being the best person you can and learning new skills in how to be a friendlier, caring and more confedent person so you can in turn be a light for the next generation not a source of sorrow.

So much to say, hum got me thinking again, Thank You!!!

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Alaikoam Salam

Well look at it this way Allah had His Angels bow down to Us so He must have meant for Us to be good people because no Angel would Bow to an evil person would they unless forced of course.

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YUSUFALI: We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;
PICKTHAL: Verily We created man of potter's clay of black mud altered,
SHAKIR: And certainly We created man of clay that gives forth sound, of black mud fashioned in shape.

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YUSUFALI: And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.
PICKTHAL: And the jinn did We create aforetime of essential fire.
SHAKIR: And the jinn We created before, of intensely hot fire.

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YUSUFALI: Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: "I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud moulded into shape;
PICKTHAL: And (remember) when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am creating a mortal out of potter's clay of black mud altered,
SHAKIR: And when your Lord said to the angels: Surely I am going to create a mortal of the essence of black mud fashioned in shape.

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YUSUFALI: "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."
PICKTHAL: So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him.
SHAKIR: So when I have made him complete and breathed into him of My spirit, fall down making obeisance to him.

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YUSUFALI: So the angels prostrated themselves, all of them together:
PICKTHAL: So the angels fell prostrate, all of them together
SHAKIR: So the angels made obeisance, all of them together,

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YUSUFALI: It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis; He refused to be of those who prostrate.

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YUSUFALI: "Our Lord! send amongst them a Messenger of their own, who shall rehearse Thy Signs to them and instruct them in scripture and wisdom, and sanctify them: For Thou art the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

Annie, again I must say that your comments concerning mankind are indeed inspiring but again let me say that nothing which you've posted is consistent with your premise on saying that all of God's creation are prophet's messengers. Now concering the creation of mankind I believe that the verses imply the significance of mankind yes, but the obsience of the Angels has nothing to do with the ethical nature of mankind it had something to do with the obedience of Angels.

Adam which the Qur'an exclaims is the first man Angels bowed before in obedience to God. This allegorical part of the Qur'an has nothing to do with what you were discussing.

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YUSUFALI: "Our Lord! send amongst them a Messenger of their own, who shall rehearse Thy Signs to them and instruct them in scripture and wisdom, and sanctify them: For Thou art the Exalted in Might, the Wise."

Alaikoam Salam

I believe I have answered your questioned however will attempt further references as soon as I can find them again.

It is true we are all leaders, teachers, followers and students and with each moment we step up to the plate in a different capacity and of course when we are doing bad or negative behaiors there is no sense in following that though it may appear appealing at first glance possibly due to our lack of education, counseling, or consulting or our basic ability to comprhend and process information.

Will have to explore the Hadeath too so this may take an evening to complete.

Though I bet if all Mankind agreed with me one would think about it twice before discounting the importance of it.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

Some of the research I have done already...

Messiah Support Writings Part One

Quotes and verses where my inspiration came from....

You are the light of the world.  A city built on a hill cannot be hid.  No one after lighting a lamp puts it under a bushel basket, but on a lamp stand, and it gives light to all in the house.  In the same way, let your light shine before others, so they may see your good works and give glory to your father in heaven.

Jesus Mathew 5, verse 14

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Celebrate and be happy this day has risen for it is evident in it�s wonder!  The Creator has set within you integrity and in your heart has set a brilliant star, verily it�s radiance shall light the whole world.

Inspired By

The writings of Bahaullah

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In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.

Acts 2, 17-18

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`So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth..."

Genesis 1 :26

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Be as I am; for I am as ye are:

Jesus Galations 4:12

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And the King will answer and say to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, in as much as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.'

Mathew 25:40

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See the home of God is among mortals, He will dwell with them as their God; they will be his/her people. And God himself will be with them; he will wipe every tear from their eyes...

Revelations 21. 1-4

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Mankind manifests all the glory of God.  He is a Talisman.  Lacking education, counseling, consultation and cooperation man is but a rag doll who is blown around like leaves in the wind to fall where they may.  Give this same man an education, some counseling and consultation and cooperation and he will achieve personal peace, then peace in the family, then peace amongst friends, then peace amongst the community, then peace amongst the Nation and finally World peace.

28. 4-5

Inspired From Bahaullah�s Teachings on Spiritual Reality

(Note: All Bahai writings were paraphrased so to find actual writings from the Bahai Faith you may find them by searching for Bahai Writings, The Hidden Words, Bahai Prayers or The Bahai World Center.)

 Salam Alaikoam

In using these research sources I feel they are expressions of Islam and it's evolution.

Though I believe Jesus PBUH said it well when he said be as I am, ie a Prophet, a Messenger and speak the truth so that truth may be told among you in all of your days not just a few of them.

One person can make a difference but they cannot heal all the world all on their own, however they can heal their inner world, the world of their family, the world of their community, Nation and World by doing their part, their share and carrying a portion of the burden of Messenger and Prophet.

The burden and challenge is too important and vital to be left in the hands or minds of just one person no it is something to be shared eqwually and according to ability but in the end it is or should be on equal footing for all not just some of the people.

Though this sounds big it is, however if we begin with a Prophecy for ourselves and commit to becoming healthier and happier, more caring and compassionate with ourselves others and the environment we will see the world unfold in a more vibrant and delightful ways.

Then the burdens now shared by a few will be more evenly distributed and each person will know where they stand and what their purpose is.

That purpose is to Know and Love Allah, God , the Creator in themselves, others and the Environment.

Our Spiritual Environments and Economies depend on this.

There is hope, we are it.

Please note for a number of years I worked at being a Bahai but when I started on the Messiah, Prophethood project of my own undertaking I step down from the Bahai Faith and began learning about Islam for it says in the Bahai writing to explore Islam so we understand our own religion.

I was given a Quran about fifteen years ago and began to study it and what Islam meant to me.

My research reflects my spiritual insight and journey.

I do not have all the answers however I believe I have the ability to inspire humnaity to it's Great Station and Nobility and it's true purpose in existing here, though greatfully the task is not mine alone.

Inshallah may you be patient with me and consider carefully what I have shared before making a judgement on the Message.

Salam Alaikoam

Peace be with you!

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi