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Topic: If the earth is cube
Posted By: semar
Subject: If the earth is cube
Date Posted: 06 November 2015 at 8:15pm
If earth was a cube then from the shuttle or space station it would have looked like the image on this page:

http://news.discovery.com/space/what-if-earth-was-a-cube-110815.htm%20 - http://news.discovery.com/space/what-if-earth-was-a-cube-110815.htm


The analysis on circulating around the Kaba for the 7 firmaments (heavens) may have validity. The location of the kaba is far more important than it's physical shape. Throughout history it's size and structure has changed - even today it's not a perfect cube.

Unfortunately, it's so misleading to invent a theory with no evidence (like the Swiss Astronomer did back in 1884) that it's shape is the same as earth.

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Salam/Peace,

Semar

"We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH)

"1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"



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Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 07 November 2015 at 3:28am
The page does not work.

I thank you for your attempt to communicate to Abu.



Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 07 November 2015 at 10:40pm
Try again, I fix the link.

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Salam/Peace,

Semar

"We are people who do not eat until we are hungry and do not eat to our fill." (Prophet Muhammad PBUH)

"1/3 of your stomach for food, 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"


Posted By: airmano
Date Posted: 07 November 2015 at 10:48pm
@Semar


Thanks for standing up against this nonsense. Even more for a person from inside Islam.


Very appreciated: Airmano

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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 08 November 2015 at 6:12am
I think people have missed the whole point of my thread.

1) The Space Station and the space Shuttle do not exist.

2) The Earth is not cubed per se but if you look at the shape of the Ka'baa then we live at the top of it, the Earth being a square or a rectangle, hence the reason the horizon is perfectly straight.

3) NASA has been lying to the masses since it's inception.

4) Nobody ( NO BODY) has ever been in 'outer space'. It is impossible.

5) Nobody (NO BODY) has ever taken a REAL pic of the Earth from space, so even today in the 21st Century it is pure speculation how the Earth looks from space.

6) Stop believing in the statanic lies and OPEN your MIND!

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La Ilaha IllAllah


Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 08 November 2015 at 11:53am
1, I have seen the intenational space station and other staelites going across the sky.

2, I have looked at the moon through a telescope and seen the shadows cast by the mountains on the moon.




Posted By: airmano
Date Posted: 08 November 2015 at 12:39pm
@Abul:

"I think people have missed the whole point of my thread..."

Not at all, I think we've perfectly understood!


Airmano

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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")


Posted By: tinculin
Date Posted: 17 November 2015 at 11:16am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

In recent years people have begun to accept that not only is the Earth flat but the outer boundaries are circular. There is a problem with this hypothesis in that when we go up a few miles up in the air and we look at the horizon, it clealry shows that it is almost perfectly straight. A circular Earth would also have a degree of curvature.


Here is a little experiment that will falsify your claim without any need for space rocket wizardry.

1) Stand on a ship at sea level and look out to the horizon with a telescope.

2) Have a friend in another boat sail in that direction until he goes out of your view.

3) Now measure the distance between you and your friend (it will be around 3 miles).

This means one of 2 things:
A) The most powerful telescopes on earth can only see 3 miles
B) The earth is not flat (which by definition means it must be curved)

You can falsity A by doing the following:

1) Stand on top of a 100 foot pole on a ship at sea level and perform the same experiment.

You will be able to see your friend and if you measure the distance you will find that it is approximately 12.2 miles.

Conclusion
The maximum distance visible by a telescope is not 3 miles.
The earth can not be flat (because if it was, i'd be able to see someone at sea level the same distance away as if I was 100 foot up a pole)

Therefore, the earth has a curve & if you sail around it, you won't sail over any right angles..



Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 18 November 2015 at 1:59pm
Originally posted by tinculin tinculin wrote:



Here is a little experiment that will falsify your claim without any need for space rocket wizardry.

1) Stand on a ship at sea level and look out to the horizon with a telescope.

2) Have a friend in another boat sail in that direction until he goes out of your view.

3) Now measure the distance between you and your friend (it will be around 3 miles).

This means one of 2 things:
A) The most powerful telescopes on earth can only see 3 miles
B) The earth is not flat (which by definition means it must be curved)

You can falsity A by doing the following:

1) Stand on top of a 100 foot pole on a ship at sea level and perform the same experiment.

You will be able to see your friend and if you measure the distance you will find that it is approximately 12.2 miles.

Conclusion
The maximum distance visible by a telescope is not 3 miles.
The earth can not be flat (because if it was, i'd be able to see someone at sea level the same distance away as if I was 100 foot up a pole)

Therefore, the earth has a curve & if you sail around it, you won't sail over any right angles..



RUBBISH! to all of the above.

Look at the map of the world below and see if one can 'go around the world'.



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La Ilaha IllAllah


Posted By: tinculin
Date Posted: 18 November 2015 at 5:23pm
You'll have to be more clear.

Which part of what I posted have you found to be untrue?


Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 19 November 2015 at 2:25am
Abu,

How does the polar projection map you post make Mecca the center of the world?

Where is the south pole?



Posted By: airmano
Date Posted: 19 November 2015 at 12:39pm
@Tinculin:

I appreciate your efforts, but trying to convince Abul that the earth is a sphere is like trying to argue with a schizophrenic that he's not Napoleon.
Even if you gave him a telescope for free he would hold it the wrong way round and say: "I told you so..."

Airmano

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The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter")


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 21 November 2015 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:

Abu,How does the polar projection map you post make Mecca the center of the world?Where is the south pole?



All the land left of Mecca and all the land right of Mecca are equal in size.

The South Pole is the ice sheet covering the Earth 360 degrees. So on a flat Earth, the North Pole is the in the centre of the flat earth and if you go anywhere on the plane from there you are actually going south.

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La Ilaha IllAllah


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 21 November 2015 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by airmano airmano wrote:

@Tinculin:

I appreciate your efforts, but trying to convince Abul that the earth is a sphere is like trying to argue with a schizophrenic that he's not Napoleon.
Even if you gave him a telescope for free he would hold it the wrong way round and say: "I told you so..."

Airmano


All the evidence confirms that the Earth is anything but a ball!

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La Ilaha IllAllah


Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 22 November 2015 at 8:56am
Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Tim the plumber Tim the plumber wrote:

Abu,How does the polar projection map you post make Mecca the center of the world?Where is the south pole?



All the land left of Mecca and all the land right of Mecca are equal in size.

The South Pole is the ice sheet covering the Earth 360 degrees. So on a flat Earth, the North Pole is the in the centre of the flat earth and if you go anywhere on the plane from there you are actually going south.


1, Clearly your projection shows that the land to the West of Mecca is larger than the land to the East. It's due to the projection making Africa and South America look bigger but....

2, The quickest way to sail around the world in Yatching races involves going as far South as possible and using the fact that the wind and current around the south pole are very fast. This would have to be lots faster to work on your flat earth.

3, Get a TELESCOPE!




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