JESUS PROPHECIED ISLAM+PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
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Topic: JESUS PROPHECIED ISLAM+PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
Posted By: umaiyad
Subject: JESUS PROPHECIED ISLAM+PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 1:19am
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In the Name of Most Merciful:
( These two prophecy are connected to Luke.5:36-39, why new religion is necessary instead of change of old religions) Matt.20:1. "For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner (God) who went (send prophets) out early in the morning (first hour in Jewish calendar was 5 o�clock, so Abraham/Jews in 1800-1700 BC) to hire men (believers) to work (for His glory) in his vineyard (Earth). 2. He agreed to pay them a denarius (paradise) for the day (world history) and sent them into his vineyard. 3. "About the third hour (1200-1100 BC Sabians/Zarathustrians) he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing (Judaism had not spread). 4.He told them, 'You also (besides Judaism) go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.' 5. So they went. "He went out again about the sixth hour (600 BC beginning of prophesies about Messiah) and the ninth hour (around 1 AC Jesus were born) and did the same thing (created Christians and Christianity). 6. About the eleventh hour (500-700 AC) he went out (send prophet) and found still others (Arabs) standing around. He asked them, 'Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing (Arabs had not had religions through prophets, only polytheism-paganism)?' 7. " 'Because no one has hired us (Arabs were so despised that even Byzantium or Persia did not want to conquer and convert them),' they answered."He said to them, 'You also go and work in my vineyard.' 8. "When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, 'Call the workers and pay them their wages (what they deserve), beginning with the last ones hired (Muslims) and going on to the first (Jews).' 9. "The workers (Muslims) who were hired about the eleventh hour (500-700 AC) came and each received a denarius. 10. So when those came who were hired first (Jews), they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11. When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner (God). 12. 'These men who were hired last (Muslims) worked only one hour,' they said, 'and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day (persecutions, slavery, occupations).' 13. "But he answered one of them, 'Friend, I am not being unfair to you. Didn't you agree to work for a denarius? 14. Take your pay and go. I want to give the man who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15. Don't I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous (you want to keep God for your nation only)?' 16. "So the last (Muslims) will be first, and the first (Jews) will be last (Prophet Mohammed, pbuh, said that even though he was last prophet and Muslims were last believers, they will enter paradise first, f.ex. before Jews and Christians, so explaining importance of accepting ALL prophets)." ----------------------------------------- 1 "year" = approx. 600 years, from Abraham / Jacob and so Jews 1800 BC to Islam 632 AC = 2400 years / 4 "year" = 600 years Luke.13:6. Then he told this parable: "A master (God) had a fig tree (symbol of Israel in Bible), planted in his vineyard (Earth), and he went to look for fruit (results) on it, but did not find any. 7. So he said to the man (Jesus) who took care of the vineyard (Judaism only true religion in the world then), 'For three (1800) years now I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil (why not to do better religion)?' 8. " 'Sir,' the man replied, 'leave it alone for one (600) more year(s), and I'll dig around it (around Israel) and fertilize it (make world ready for Islam in Middle-East). 9. If it bears fruit next year (in 600 years), fine! If not, then cut it down (Judaism and its sect/branch Christianity from way of Islam).' " ----------------------------------------- ------------- THIS WAS FROM MY BOOK IN: http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ - http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ JESUS PROPHESIED "KINGDOM OF GOD": http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam/Cover1.GIF - http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam/Cover1.GIF |
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Posted By: umaiyad
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 1:20am
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And if you Christians think that Mohammed, peace be upon him, got "People of The Book" into Qur�an from these, wasn�t he way too smart not to even try explaining/interpretating these in such way, as he tried to get Jews and Christians to accept Islam in all other ways? He was prophet, and knew that these interpretations will explain "People of The Book" in Qur�an when time is right, and that time is now. ------------- THIS WAS FROM MY BOOK IN: http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ - http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ JESUS PROPHESIED "KINGDOM OF GOD": http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam/Cover1.GIF - http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam/Cover1.GIF |
Posted By: umaiyad
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 1:21am
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More about Islam prophesied by Jesus in Bible, for example description of natural conditions in Muslim-countries near christian countries ("desert"/"mountains") as "home":
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/koran/ About Scientific Miracles in Qur�an (and also about Paul and rest of Bible) : http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ |
Posted By: umaiyad
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 1:23am
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Remember that there was TWO different "Sabians" even in Bible, another one in nowadays Yemen and another in modern South-Iraq, propably sect in Zarathustrism. ------------- THIS WAS FROM MY BOOK IN: http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ - http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/ JESUS PROPHESIED "KINGDOM OF GOD": http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam/Cover1.GIF - http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/islam/Cover1.GIF |
Posted By: Shams Zaman
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 10:28am
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Dear brother Umaiyad! May peace and blessings be on you! You are right that Jesus prophesied Islam. Not even Jesus prophesied Islam but all the Prophets of Allah prophesied Islam. Sura Al-Imran 3, verses 65-68, �65. O followers of the Book! why do you dispute about Ibrahim, when the Taurat and the Injeel were not revealed till after him; do you not then understand? 66. Behold! you are they who disputed about that of which you had knowledge; why then do you dispute about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows while you do not know. 67. Ibrahim was neither a Jew nor a Christian but he was an absolutely devoted Muslim, and he was not one of the polytheists. 68. Most surely the nearest of people to Ibrahim are those who followed him and this Prophet and those who believe and Allah is the guardian of the believers.� Jesus was born amongst the Children of Israel but he was not a Jew as he didn�t follow the set of belief system necessary to be termed as a Jew and neither he believed in the tribal god with the name of Yahweh who has no concern for rest of the human kind except for the Jews. This was the reason Jews tried to execute and crucify him. Same is said in Sura Baqra-2, verses 135-140, �And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, (who was) absolutely devoted Muslim (Hanif), and he was not one of the polytheists....140. Nay! do you say that Ibrahim and Ismail and Yaqoub and the tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Are you better knowing or Allah? And who is more unjust than he who conceals the testimony that he received (in the Book) from Allah? And Allah is not at all unaware of what you do�. So Jesus said in Sura Maryum-19, verse-36, �And surely Allah is my Lord and your Lord, therefore worship Him alone; this is the right path�. Same wordings are contained in Gospel of Mathew-19: 17 �And Jesus said unto him, �Why thou callest me good? For there is none good, except One, that is God - And if you want to enter life, keep the commandments� and Mark Muslim is not a label (as most Muslims and Non-Muslims believe) but it means one who submits himself to God and His commandments. Both Quran and Bible say that all the Prophets were Muslims as they submitted themselves to the Will of God. Moreover Jesus was never the founder of Christianity neither ever did he said that I have brought a new religion to the Hebrews, he said, in the Gospel of Mathew Ch.5 V.17 - 20, �Think not that I am come to destroy the law and the Prophets - I am come not to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till the heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall not pass away from the law, until all be fulfilled. And whosoever therefore, shall break one of the least commandments and teach men to do so, will be called least in the Shams Zaman Pakistan ------------- [email protected] |
Posted By: fredifreeloader
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 9:38am
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youre wrong - islam is nowhere prophesied in the bible, in fact there is no evidence of islam anywhere before muhammad ------------- for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16 |
Posted By: AhmadJoyia
Date Posted: 17 February 2006 at 11:10pm
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Surprised!! Is this from Bible or some sayings of those who tried to kill Jesus? Is this an apology, an excuse or feeling of guilty to treat Jesus like that? Very strange indeed. |
fredifreeloader wrote:Posted By: fredifreeloader
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 9:40am
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ahmadjoyia - the quotation is from the holy scriptures - 1 corinthians 5: 21. it refers to the sin-atoning sacrifice of Christ on the cross, when he "his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness" --1 peter 2: 24 ------------- for i am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth - romans 1: 16 |
Posted By: amlhabibi2000
Date Posted: 18 February 2006 at 2:24pm
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Salam Alaikoam I do not believe we can take on or take away other peoples sins other than to educate, counsel and consult so that behavior does not continue. Certainly we can feel the impact of our sins on ourselves and see the impact on other people however we still cannot carry the burden for someone else. Though we are forced sometimes to bare the impact of those sins it does not mean we can remove them or lighten the load for the sinner. The only way we can lighten anyones load of sins including our own is with education, counseling and consultation in healthier boundaries, good communications skills, good conflict resolution skills and education in sexual health and coping with the stages and levels of various kinds of frustrations. Aanne Marie Elderkin Habibi
------------- Judgement day passes in the moment we decide something needs attention & we take positive action. Then there will be a great sorting out of people into groups, Inspired by Surah 99 Ayat 1-8 |
Posted By: Shams Zaman
Date Posted: 20 February 2006 at 11:21am
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Dear fredifreeloader! Unfortunately we think that Islam is a lable. That is not true. Islam means complete submission to GOD, and that is what Jesus prophised. Which he said in : Mathew-19: 17 , Mark He taught what all Prophets had taughet TO OBEY GOD. Shams zaman ------------- [email protected] |