Is there proof of existing a god of a Allah ?
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Topic: Is there proof of existing a god of a Allah ?
Posted By: Polarbear1981
Subject: Is there proof of existing a god of a Allah ?
Date Posted: 18 December 2015 at 1:00pm
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Is there a proof in Sience that's proofs of a God of a Allah exist ? Whe believers benefit or hall life to a God or a Allah but is there any evidence in Sience ? Well let's look to Pattent Registration of Religion if God or Allah Exist in Sience.. What is proofed is that a God can't exist in Nature if it can't comply to Nature Law of Fysics Because if a Allah in Course of the Arabic People did Create Nature and Created the Universe it must has Law in his Existing. Well in Nature it's impossible to Create so much Mass and Chemicals Fluids that there is no Possibilty that a God or a Allah has did this because of Law of Fysics that are no Compelling with a Allah or a God that's Creates the Universe and have Influence in Birth or Punischment that is not Possible ? In Second hand there is the Option that a God or Allah exist in out of Nature and has special Powers to archieve this. Well if that is true Sience should Messure this Energy and if you as God or Allah can't Compare with Nature Laws in Nature how do you Compare to Nature if you breaks that Laws Fysics ? Let's see what Mathematics in Sience Mathematic Prolugation says about this. SOM = 6.8.9.0.2.3.4.5.6.8.9.0.2.3.5.6.8.9.0.. The Outcome of this Mathematics.. (Translation in Latin Proximus) I can stand with Nature if there is no Nature with Laws in Fysics and will Resolute in Name of Nature in Sience that there is no God in Nature if there is no Relation to Nature if there is Sience in Mathematics in Relation. My Question let whe try to Proof God or a Allah exist and so Atheist are for the rest of there Life Quied ? |
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Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 19 December 2015 at 3:29am
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If you can show any evidence of the existance of a supernatural being then you will have done something that has never been done before. On the other side of the coin.. The Earth is exceptionally lucky. I mean beyond walking into a Vegas cassion and putting a $1 bet into a slot machine and hitting the million dollar jackpot twice on the row. First time. Humanity is just as fluky to have happened by natural selection alone. That these flukes have happened is not proof of anything, some result would have happened and that would have been unique. Shuffle a pack of cards and it is vanishingly unlikely that that particular serries of cards has ever happened before. But then some serries will happen. The thing is that when you look at the Earth and Humanity at some point you are pushed into the question as how is all this very good luck not evidence..... At some point it gets just too lucky. Personally I can see a case that something is gardening the Earth and us. If this is some sort of exrtra universal intelligence it is very strange as it has been sitting on it's posterior for many billions of years. 13+ billion years. If this power is some sort of elder space alien culture which has been uplifting new races the they are capable of being very patient as the record of being lucky goes back at least 1/2 a billion years. Either way I think they will have a shock when humanity spreads across the galaxy like a plague. |
Posted By: airmano
Date Posted: 02 January 2016 at 10:03am
Not only that http://www.reuters.com/article/us-lottery-idUSTRE58H4AM20090918 - unlikely things do happen from time to time, they actually must happen if the "experiment" is repeated often enough. Airmano ------------- The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter") |
Tim the Plumber:
Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 03 January 2016 at 2:24am
Sure, but if it happens for 3 weeks in a row there is something going on.....? Even that would not be as lucky as earth and humanity. The real questions can only be answered when we find out how far other places have got in their evolution. Is it that the earth like oxygen from sunshine rout is the only rout to high energy metabolism? For example. When we finally go to the ocean of Europa, one of the moons of Jupiter, will we find sophisticated fish type stuff swimming around or just interesting black slime? How many routs are there to the magic combination of high intelligence, extreme social flexability, manipulative ability (hands) and a disruptive revolutionary inventive spirit? |
Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 04 January 2016 at 7:04am
What you will find is that there is no such thing as a planet Jupiter or that it has any moons. These are all fiction concocted by atheist scientists as a joke but people took it as fact. The only intelligent life existing is on this plane we call Earth, this is because Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala created this plane and gave man authority over it. Why do we need alien life when we have billions of species right here on Earth, once again all created just for us. Human beings are a special creation. No doubt about it. ------------- La Ilaha IllAllah |
Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 05 January 2016 at 11:29am
I had hoped that your lack of posting on the various monn threads etc meant that you had either got better or were in treatment. Buy a telescope. Look at the sky. Find Jupiter. If your telescope has a tripod, as it should, you will be able to see the 4 biggest moons of Jupiter. You will be able to plot their position each day and see that it changes. A cheap telescope will do. |
Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 8:04am
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No, the existence of Allah/God can't be proven nor disproven. It's a matter of belief and beyond the realm of science. ------------- A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt |
Posted By: Answer to Jahil
Date Posted: 13 April 2016 at 10:04pm
| The way you have asked this question clearly indicated that you are uneducated person, or even if you do have some education it is from a third world, still in the darkness country. No offense intended. This is a 5th grade science/ Physics law " Energy is constant in the universe, it cannot be created nor it can be destroyed, but it can be transformed in to other types of energy" Which Means, the battery that runs your shell (body) what happens to it when you die? Battery= Soul |
Posted By: Answer to Jahil
Date Posted: 13 April 2016 at 10:15pm
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May Allah subhan wa tahala save us once again from the Envy of the Kuffar and the darkness they wish to mislead the Muslims towards.
The JAHIL is the Ally of the be cursed Iblis. |
Posted By: Tim the plumber
Date Posted: 16 April 2016 at 2:40am
If you use physics to try to show that God exists you will have problems with other people who know more physics than you. For example the idea of energy being similar to the idea of a soul is wrong. Us humans are not a sealed system and we get energy in when we digest food and give out energy when we do work and give off heat. Energy comes and goes for us. The next trouble with using physics is that we know that physics has not finished, it's not 100% correct. It's very good, it's how we can build jet planes and have satelites that make the GPS systems work. But we know that there are loads of questions about the nature of the universe that it simply has no answer for yet. The ideas that produce extremely good models of the very big and very fast are different to the models which work very well for the very small. The real universe has just the one set of rules. That we have not found how these 2 different sets work together is the big problem facing physics today. One day somebody will come along with a new idea which will change the way they look at nature just as Einstein did, just as Newton did before him and just as Galileo did before him. Thne any basis you have constructed based on today's physics will fall down. |
Posted By: airmano
Date Posted: 18 April 2016 at 8:00am
In your contribution you criticize the scientific soundness of Polarbear1981's post. But what you add is by no means more scientific: - Where does science talk of souls? Can you show me at least one scientific article (in a renowned journal) doing so ? - Can you be more specific about your battery/soul comparison ? - Could you explain which form of energy "the soul" uses: electric, mechanical, gravitational or other ? - What are your [scientific] sources on this subject ? Airmano ------------- The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter") |
Posted By: airmano
Date Posted: 29 April 2016 at 1:01pm
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@Jahil
Any news ? Airmano ------------- The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses (Albert Einstein 1954, in his "Gods Letter") |
Posted By: Ringer
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 9:14am
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Actually, there is a simple mathematical (statistical) proof of 'god', but it is a very unsatisfying proof as it doesn't have any relationship to the gods of the Bible, Qur'an, Hindu scriptures, or any other known religion. First prove we are living in a "simulation" (search online for this), and 'god' becomes whoever/whatever created or is running the simulation. It also doesn't say anything about whether 'god' ever listens to individuals or ever takes any direct action in the affairs of the world/universe. The proof is compelling but the result doesn't seem at all satisfying, especially to those who seek the 'god' of their own religion. ------------- -- Ringer |