I took this from the another thread between Rami and Israfil. I'm just confused on some things.

Also, how do you know any of us is not a scholar? Or perhaps a potential scholar? By what we say? Unlike you brother I'm not a slave to a Sheykh or some pitiful sect like Shias and Sunnis or do I kiss buildings because my Fiqh says so. I am a  Muslim who bows to Allah the Artisan of our universe. I feel at this point i should remind you this is a sunni forum.

Sunni forum ?

Is islamcity for ALL muslims regardless of who they are?

Yes, the forum consist of mostly sunnis but does that really make it a sunni forum ?

Especially a Muslim brother such as myself because I see no distinction in  any of us save our deeds. I see a big distinction between what is acceptable in sunni islam and what isnt. We love our prophet more than our selves, we believe in the Quran and his sunnah as being authentic and preserved and we follow the sahaba the tabiin and the tabi tabiin as well as those whom allah spoke of in the above verses in the Quran and in many more, we take our religion as a whole and not any particular part of it only.

The last part I question.

"we take our religion as a whole and not any particular part of it only", UMMMM, take our religion as a whole is that ALL of islam or just the sunni islam?

As I see it, taking the sunni part of islam IS taking a particular part of islam not ALL islam. 

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Hi Angel,

The topic, parts of which you are quoting, has been closed. Therefore, it is expected that that is not brought further. You are senior memeber since July 2001, and I hope you are aware of the forum guidelines.

Of course, it is Islamic discussion board ( rule 1 ). Yes, we discuss issues related to different sects in "intrafaith section".

Let us all read forum guidelines before posting anything at the forum.

Peace

If there is something confusing I will bring it up wither the thread has been closed or not, I have always done that with no trouble.  I just did this recently and no probs there

Peacemaker, you say yes this is an islamic board then why did rami say that this is a sunni one instead ? 

I know the rules and yet I find little things that creep up over time that is not in the guidelines. At times it feels like some things are being made up along the way that is not in the guidelines, and it makes things unclear how to operate.

Is islamcity for ALL muslims regardless of who they are?

rami wrote: Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem angel remember my last advice to you about staying out of heated debates which dont concern you, this is one such case.

And I was staying out of it! I wasn't even concerned at the topic which I had no interest nor the stuff between you and israfil but something said in there that wasn't even about the topic, that is why I took it to another thread, like I have done in the past that it has been no prob.

this is the last time i will advise you on this angel dont start posts about topics which have been closed.

As said, what I picked was not on the topic.

looking at the comments of israfil towards me and your post you did not seem sincere at all, but i will take your word in your last post that you are insha allah.

Might help if you saw that first

Is islamcity for ALL muslims regardless of who they are?

Yes, the forum consist of mostly sunnis but does that really make it a sunni forum ?

The muslim Ummah [community] is sunni they comprise 85-90% of all muslims, calling them a sect of islam is wrong and to do so would comprise an insult and a lie not simply becouse we think we are right and others are wrong but by looking at history, when ever a group/sect wanted to diferentiate it self from the mainstream islam they gave themselfs a title. the most common and first sect in islam is the Shia they broke away from the muslim community and gave themselfs the title to diferentiate themselfs from the Ummah, thus sunni's are orthodox islam which is also in line with the meaning of the word sunni. So in the context of this site Islam here means sunni islam, and the islamic sections on this forum are for sunni muslims.

ok, sunni forum it is then

We do have other sections for our shia brothers or people from other non sunni groups called Intrafaith in which they can discuss issues from there perspective.

Really!   

As I see it, taking the sunni part of islam IS taking a particular part of islam not ALL islam.

how do you define the sunni part of islam?

As you mentioned, orthodox islam  don't forget Rami that you are saying sunni islam for which you are defining it and adding 'a part of islam.' It maybe not your intentions but that is how it comes across as if you practice a part of islam while some other follows another part of islam.

well I thought sunni's are those who follow the sunnah of the prophet, his example. Did the Prophet mentioned that you or those that follow his path/example will be called sunni's? I have not come across it.

As I understand it, sunnah means a way of life, that could and can mean any way of life, hence the sunnah of Prophet Muhammed, just as you can say sunnah of Jesus - jesus's way of life and example.

I can use the word for myself, my sunnah  my way of life. It's an arabic word for that term as I understand it. Just as islam in arabic means peace.

Sometimes I think muslims hijack the arabic language

And as I understand it, shia's formed after Muhammed died ? hence the argument of who will succeed after Him, no one could settle it and why the deviation from the main group who were called what ? (For which we now have two groups in islam) All I can think of is just muslim, nothing in front to explain which kind of muslim no sunni or shia or sufi or whatever, just muslim until the Prophets death. (I don't know maybe somethings started before but haven't come across anything) Muslim meaning those who submit to Allah and his laws/guidence from the quran, practicing islam.

We dont have part of the religion and they the other this is a false way of seeing it, the shia reject many companions of the prophet as well as his own wives who allah in the Quran called the mothers of the believers so they are the ones missing parts of islam due to there extremist views and not taking any narations from these people.

Well I'm not sure if its documented in quran or hadiths that you HAVE to follow all companions or not or the narations (only Muhammed the use of his example of how to be, even the campanions use Muhammed's example) so I don't know how shia's are rejecting anything or can be extremists because of rejecting/missing parts of islam.  Shia's still follow Muhammed don't they ? it was just who would follow after Him as leader that caused the rift, if they follow Muhammed then they are sunnis too  sunnah of the Prophet.

 

Explain way.. 

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Thanks rami, will ponder on it, I must admit thou that my dealings (not sure if that is the right word?) come from the qu'ran and sunnah of Prophet Muhammed  does that make me a sunni  

Suleyman, how does one learn? one needs to tip the scales to move on and/or become knowledgable  

Don't want to cause fitnah but is water blue?