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Topic: Daniel
Posted By: ak_m_f
Subject: Daniel
Date Posted: 04 April 2006 at 5:15pm
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Posted By: superme
Date Posted: 05 April 2006 at 1:48am

Actually I don't to dispute if they are jews or not, but have we distinguish the differences between jews as race and the followers of judaism?

If I am not mistaken I read in one of the magazines that pointed out that the dark skin jews and the european jews are genetically different people.

Whenever a jew or jews mentioned themselves proudly they are most likely are talking about genetic. This is actually useless claim as far as gene is concern, but some people like it that way.

The best gene is the one that found in andividual who believe in his/herself ability even when facing the odd. The jews don't have this ability, they must be in the crowd to survive.

That is my opinion. 

 



Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 1:05pm

Listen Bro,
If you need to take a pill I can wait... Sorry I'm just messing with you but
you went on and on and on.

Muslims gave the world an end to the dark ages Saved the knowledge and
science of years past in their libraries and they sheltered my jewish
ancestors from the Crusades. We owe them big.
With out the Quran
There would be no Starbucks

As religions go Islam is no worse than the rest of us in our fundamental
forms.


Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 1:06pm
I just crack myself up I can't help it


Posted By: AhmadJoyia
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 1:26pm

Hi Dan,

welcome back! It is a while heard some jokes from you. Nice to see you back.



Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 2:35pm
Thanks Bro,

Nice to be back. Nice to be.

Nice to be nice.

My Mother passed away two weeks after the Nofeh Sharon Bombing.
My sister and her were in the building when the suicide bomber did the
deed. This was the second time they tried to blow her and her building
up in Nathanya. She took it personally and stopped eating and then
drinking and then she died on the 19th of December while I was stuck in
traffic 5 miles away having only left her for an hour with my brother and
sister.

I stopped drinking the same day she died. I knew I'd be miserable and
nasty and that under the circumstances no one would hold it against me
for at least a week.
When dead relatives started paying me a visits in my studio at 03:00
(a.m.) on barely day three of this experiment I decided that it was time to
seriously embrace in a limited way, certain aspects of Islam - mainly the
part regarding temperance.

I led the a passover service here at the house the other night with grape
juice Yech.

I had been so careful all these years since High School to always keep a
certain amount of blood in my alcohol system.
However, in the spirit of change and environmental sensitivity I have
chosen this new path.

I've decided to convert - to maintain and use a 100% blood circulatory
system. Nothing new to a Muslim I suppose but YA-ALLAH what a
difference to this guy.

I may have to join one of these groups where you go and stand up in
front of people and they all acknowledge you in one voice when you
introduce yourself.

"HI DAN"

So that's where I've been. I've been the Lord Mayor of Crazy Town
for about four months.
Now I'm back. Probably about two months early.





Posted By: Athanasius
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 2:38pm

Dan, I wish you well.  Have you gone to any support groups?  Alcohol addiction is generally related to genetic predisposition. 

As far as Muslims not drinking - that may be in their list of rules, but it is not necessarily observed.  A friend of mine was invited to a Saudi Prince's party, and the liquor flowed.



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Freedom is a gift from God - to deny men freedom is to worship evil.


Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:04pm
Well, Pride is a problem. I usually am the support group. But Yeah I am
seriously thinking about joining a support group. It/ this is as hard as
losing a good friend because of an unclear issue or a disagreement.

It feels the same. It really pisses me off that I could be so dependent on
rotten produce. The draw is so strong.

Still, I am the most stubborn living person I know. I have young people
that look up to me and They make me stronger than I really am. They
have never seen me smoking a cigarette or with a drink in my hand.

I am confident that I won't fail myself or them. There is too much on the
line.

Also I need to practically live forever if I'm ever to achieve half of what I
want to do when I finally do grow up.


Posted By: Athanasius
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 3:21pm
Well, you're living in a very spiritual place.  I wonder if they have Alcoholics Anonymous over in Israel.  For some, this is a great place to meet and share experiences.  May the Lord guide you to where you should be, Ath

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Freedom is a gift from God - to deny men freedom is to worship evil.


Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 4:05pm
They do have AA here. My students are all exceptional musicians. Usually
before they work with me. My job is to mentor them one on one and one
by one. It's pretty intense stuff. I can't screw it up. Artists especially
young artists are sort of from a different planet. For the most part they
are gifted and I accept that I am frequently alone in a room with a 14 year
old child with a 50% higher IQ than my own. In anywhere from 4 years to
10 months the Jewish kids become the the property of the IDF.

If I can get them to a point where they show clear excellence they go to
Julliard or Berkley or become National Treasures. If I fail them they go to
Army intelligence to be chased around a desk by some career officer for 2
years if they are girls.

If they are boys they may be trained to death or have the magic driven
from their soul forever.







Posted By: superme
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 4:51pm

I was shocked once to see for a short time that I have changed just by merely 6 hours sleep, or is this dream and I am still sleeping?. I don't drink but now I am in the state of considering to join alcoholic anonymous too.

I promise from today I will look at poster's name, amen.

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky Daniel Dworsky wrote:


As religions go Islam is no worse than the rest of us in our fundamental forms.



Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 14 April 2006 at 6:23pm
Ex snoozer ex Boozer?
Go back to sleep your having a bad dream


Posted By: ummziba
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 4:45am

Assalamu alaikum Daniel,

Hang tough, life without alcohol is so very much better, once your body gets over the shock!  You will be pleasantly surprised at the clarity with which you will now percieve things.  This life is tough enough without muddying up your brain with a substance that clearly disables your ability to really see things as they are.

I am sorry to hear about the passing of your mom.  Sometimes I think it is a blessing when a spouse dies so close to when their life partner has already departed.  It is sad how she went...life there in the "holy land" is not easy for anyone in these times.

Perhaps if you can find it in your heart to replace alcohol with prayer and thankfulness to Allah for all His blessings, you might find your journey eased a bit.  I will pray for your sobriety.

Peace, ummziba.



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Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~


Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 11:14am
I knew I'd hear from you! sis,
It was more like a medication than anything else.
I never drove under the influence I never got drunk I had made rules
guidelines so that it was always the minimum amount to keep it all
together. I was romanced by it in high school but over the years it got
"old" No one knew except me. The physical reaction was a total shock.
I was having these short little visual hallucinations for a while but after a
day of that they went away too. It was more like a bad bout of the grip
than what I've heard told.


Posted By: Daniel Dworsky
Date Posted: 15 April 2006 at 11:15am
Superme have you gone bannanas?


Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 12 June 2006 at 8:46am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky Daniel Dworsky wrote:

Well, Pride is a problem. I usually am the support group. But Yeah I am
seriously thinking about joining a support group. It/ this is as hard as
losing a good friend because of an unclear issue or a disagreement.

It feels the same. It really pisses me off that I could be so dependent on
rotten produce. The draw is so strong.

Still, I am the most stubborn living person I know. I have young people
that look up to me and They make me stronger than I really am. They
have never seen me smoking a cigarette or with a drink in my hand.

I am confident that I won't fail myself or them. There is too much on the
line.

Also I need to practically live forever if I'm ever to achieve half of what I
want to do when I finally do grow up.

Bismillah,

Peace, Daniel!  I hadn't seen this thread till today.  I want to respond to your living forever comment.  Thanks for your hilarity!

To change an addiction, change your normal habits, routines, that surrounded your addiction.  Even little changes will help.  Wow!  You've admitted to yourself and us that you have this problem, and most people aren't able to reach that step.  You're doing great!  Ma'Shah Allah!



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.



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