Gujarat genocide, first accounts: video
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Topic: Gujarat genocide, first accounts: video
Posted By: ak_m_f
Subject: Gujarat genocide, first accounts: video
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 6:02pm
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Below is the link to a documentary made on the Gujarat massacre of the Muslims, it show the extreme hatred and prejudice that the average Hindu has for the Muslims living in India. Please do see the video and pass the word around.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4452580708715802828&q=gujrat - click here to watch |
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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 8:27pm
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March 1, 2005
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Posted By: lovetabuleh
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 1:12pm
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hmmm.. there's soo much hatered traveling around, would i want to watch this video and build up new hatered?? i'll stick to the post about the movie "Three Faiths One God"... it will do a positive affect for me and my interaction with society.
thanx dude, but many of us women kinda are irksome about watching violence. we're the ones who raise them kids you know who bring whatever they learned into their socio-economic environment. |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 2:28pm
Its a neutral documentary. btw no one is twisting your arm to watch it |
amalhayati2 wrote:Posted By: s666
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:01pm
haven't seen this post. haven't you seen an indian map? do you know where gujarat is located? and do you know in which part of gujrat this thing happened and why it happened? and how many so called average hindus 'took part' in that pogrom? muslims have been living here for centuries. if hindus had such an attitude towards the muslims, so many muslims wouldn't have chosen to stay with their fellow 'average hindus' during partition of india. don't you know there are more muslims in india than in pakistan and their population is growing day by day? |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:15pm
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India has only 13.4 % muslims as of 2005.
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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:22pm
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yes it started when BJP started preaching hate against Muslims, they used train fire excuse to falme hindu mobs into attacking muslim villages.
In the end we all found out that train attack was a lie. |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 7:23pm
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To the State Government of Gujarat:
� Ensure that police register and investigate all cases of communal violence regardless of the religious background of the victim. Establish women's cells in police stations for the reporting and investigation of sexual violence cases and other crimes against women. � Act without delay to implement the recommendations of the NHRC on the violence in Gujarat. � Turn over investigations implicating state and police officials to federal agencies such as the CBI.2 Ensure that these investigations address the conduct of state officials, including police and Bharatiya Janata Party leaders, who incited, took part in, or were complicit in the attacks. � Suspend all police officers implicated in the attacks, pending investigation. Police found to have violated their duties should be dismissed and prosecuted where appropriate. All officers who helped stem the violence and have since been demoted or transferred should be reinstated to their original posts. � Provide integration assistance to individuals and families who were victims of the communal violence and who are unable or unwilling to return to their homes. Such integration assistance should include housing, employment assistance, food and water, and access to education and healthcare. � Allocate compensation for family members of those killed or the reconstruction of homes and places of business, and for the provision of food and other relief supplies for all persons displaced or dispossessed in a nondiscriminatory manner and in accordance with international human rights law and the U.N. Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement. � Reassess existing state and federal compensation packages that fail to cover all damage and destruction suffered by victims. � Take prompt and appropriate action against any government official, including elected representatives and members of the state or local administration, who endorse, encourage, or otherwise promote discrimination against Muslims or any other group. � Adopt and implement measures to ensure safe return and continuing security for all urban and rural families affected by the violence who wish to go back to their original residences and places of business. � Adopt and implement measures to ensure the security of human rights defenders, journalists, and independent and secular NGOs working in Gujarat to promote human rights and non-discrimination. To the Government of India: The government of India should ensure that Gujarat state investigates and prosecutes perpetrators of communal violence and, where necessary, cooperates with federal agencies such as the CBI in doing so. The government should also take appropriate measures to ensure the security and safety of all citizens of Gujarat, including assisting those who have been displaced or dispossessed by the violence. In addition, Human Rights Watch recommends that the government: � Investigate and prosecute officials of those organizations, including the VHP, RSS, BJP, Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, and their affiliates, implicated in continuing violence against Dalits, tribals, and religious minorities. � Repeal the resolution that exempts trishuls (tridents) from the scope of the Indian Arms Act. Prohibit, in conjunction with state governments, the distribution of tridents and swords by members of the sangh parivar; and seize weapons that have already been distributed by these groups. � End impunity for past campaigns of violence against minorities, including the anti-Sikh violence in Delhi in 1984 and the post-Ayodhya violence of December 1992 and January 1993; the recommendations of the Srikrishna Commission on the post-Ayodhya violence in Bombay should be implemented without delay. Police responsible for excessive use of force should be prosecuted; those having the power and duty to stop the violence but who did not intervene should be appropriately punished. � Repeal the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA), which stands in violation of international due process norms and has been discriminatorily applied in the state of Gujarat and elsewhere. � Request assistance from United Nations relief agencies, including the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP), the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), the World Food Programme (WFP), the World Health Organization (WHO), and the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), as well as international humanitarian organizations, to ensure the provision of relief and rehabilitation assistance to all those displaced and dispossessed by the communal violence. CBI is a federal investigative agency that handles cases of corruption and cases of interstate and other crimes of national importance. CBI inquiries are often demanded in cases where local or state investigations are perceived to be biased. |
Posted By: s666
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 5:54am
but still it is more than the the population of any other country.
the terminology isn't right brother. india is a secular country and there are nothing like 'muslim villages', 'hindu villages' etc. people of various religions live everywhere in india. and remember it happened only in some parts of gujarat and not everywhere in india. dont worry about the bjp and the allies bro. they are nowhere to be seen.
this explains it all. just wait for the criminal trial of narendra modi in the court of justice.  p.s. this incident happened in 2002 and a lot has changed since then. indians (both muslim and hindu) have forgotten the incident and are together just as they have always been. and such things happen everywhere as insane people are everywhere. this incident is just being blown out of proportion just to portray the counrty in a negative perspective. |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 16 July 2006 at 1:46pm
you win, your trophy awaits you. 
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Posted By: liyala
Date Posted: 16 July 2006 at 2:45pm
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people who committed the attrocities were indians... many were locals... instigated mob mentality perhaps but it didn't come out of nowhere and certainly did not disappear. so they are living in harmony again you say " indians (both muslim and hindu) have forgotten the incident and are together just as they have always been" only fools forget history... history repeats itself... it was not a freak accident by one person against one other person... too many people were involved... too much hurt caused, lives destroyed, changed forever ... like the girl in that video said that memories (nightmares) are there and will remain forever. ------------- liyal.a |
Posted By: peacemaker
Date Posted: 16 July 2006 at 4:48pm
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Assalamu Alaikum, An interesting part is that this film was made by Rakesh Sharma who also appears to be a Hindu. That shows that there are Hindus who totally disagree with violence. Act of hate and violence coming from tragic political environment doesn't do any good to anyone. That is the message that should be conveyed as much as we can. Only innocent people suffer and die, but those who caused such atrocities stay out of its consequences. I hope that real culprits of the heinous crime will be brought to book one day. Peace ------------- Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? Qur'an 55:13 |
Posted By: s666
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 1:18am
obviously true that the peace may not last forever and its also true that people will not fight forever. two men never lived under the same roof without fighting even once. you may term those hindus to be insane. but you cannot call whole of the community so. don't you know that indian president is a muslim? the hardest truth you know not of is india has been denied entry into organisation the of islamic conference even though it has the second largest muslim population in the world. |
Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 5:30am
------------- Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper). (Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45) |
Posted By: s666
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 8:06am
dear sister, consider my case. my relatives were burnt alive in kashmir. my grand father was displaced from his home just because he was hindu. i thought that muslims were barbarians until my father told that my great grand mother was a muslim and that chauvinists are from both communities. you need not ask me to empathise them. i have already suffered. i have had my counselling for years together.
if you are an indian you will know the situation which exists here. my fellow muslims know how we treat them. india has been secular and will remain secular. |
Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 9:21am
if you are an indian you will know the situation which exists here. my fellow muslims know how we treat them. india has been secular and will remain secular. Insha Allah. [/QUOTE] ------------- Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper). (Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45) |
Posted By: liyala
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 7:56pm
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you know s666, i commend you... really i do! on your optimism... i sincerely absolutely hope that you are right in your optimistic viewpoint. about narender modi and others... i watch and wait for their trials knowing that he will go free or he will be not-in-jail and his trial would be so long drawn out that he will die of old age before he gets convicted and or punished... muslim president and sikh prime-minister, what are you kidding me??? there were minorities in congress and parliament when the massacre at the golden temple happened, and they were there when babri masjid was demolished... and they were in positions of power when the australian missionary and his sons were burnt alive in their jeep... and they were part of that party for countless other instances of oppression against minorities... sure not all hindus will cremate alive their neighbours... but watch out. ------------- liyal.a |
Posted By: liyala
Date Posted: 17 July 2006 at 8:02pm
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and s666, i am sorry about your grandfather... but remember this whole
deal... Kashmiris being slaughtered for decades now... was because
Nehruji wanted to keep Kashmir in India... those poor souls are paying
the price for it to both sides, with their land and their lives.
------------- liyal.a |
Posted By: s666
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 1:39am
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whether one believes in resurrection or reincarnation, or does not believe in any religion, there is no escape from sin. people ignorant of their own religion do such things. i have already talked about kashmir. kashmir was a mistake. average indian does not know the situation in kashmir. what he/she knows is kashmir was a part of ancient nation of bharat and that pakistan wants to take it in the name of religion. and i think the same is with the pakistanis. but the sufferers are the kashmiris. thank you amah and liyala for your well wishing. |
Posted By: lovetabuleh
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 8:04pm
I was talking about the documentary made on the Gujarat massacre of the Muslims! you suggested and I politely declined |
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 18 July 2006 at 8:12pm
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ok I take it back...jeez ........
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