Goodbye to All
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Topic: Goodbye to All
Posted By: Patty
Subject: Goodbye to All
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:14pm
I came to this board in good faith in an attempt to learn what Islam is really all about. My expectations were that this forum would provide mature and respectful exchanges of conversation and dialogue on a variety of topics.
I was wrong. People of other faiths are not really accepted here by any means. There is no equality, and I find this extremely disappointing. I had thought better of your religion and culture. However, after many days of being respectful and courteous regarding your beloved religion and prophet, I have learned that it is a one way street. Although there are some who I believe would like to show more parity, but don't out of fear of repercussions.
For this reason I will take what I have learned (most has been negative because of such a lack of respect and horrendous rudeness which is allowed by some immature Muslims.) I had heard (but did not believe) that a Muslim will always stand up for another Muslim no matter what the issue. I did not believe this! I was wrong. This has been one of the toughest lessons I have had to learn, and I have had to accept that I am truly hated by Muslims.....for no reason other than that I am not Muslim.
May Allah/God richly bless each of you and grant you great wisdom.
------------- Patty
I don't know what the future holds....but I know who holds the future.
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Posted By: Suleyman
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 12:31pm
Sister,please do not leave the court to the agitaters,to the negative persons,we know the problems inside and make our war,won't you help us?...is this the thing we learnt from prophets,Jesus(a.s.) leaving the zone to the others who are lack of tolerance and high level discussions...please...please...please...do not make them smile,turn back and keep up writing...
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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:03pm
Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:19pm
Posted By: Suleyman
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:19pm
Who are you talking with?
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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:21pm
Posted By: Suleyman
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:23pm
Man, it is too late too drink,enough please stop!,tomorrow you have work...
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Posted By: schwester
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:45pm
dear Patty,
if it's the way you live, you must have left this world very before. there are always rude people, kind people..no matter in islam or not. but this "bye" shows only your weakness. sorry, but it's the fact i have faced too, in recent months seeing stupid muslims i 've never expected. you should know that "stars have meaning in dark nights", so if you think you care about yourself and are better than those you are talking about then show it here. and i apologise and am sorry for them. luck
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Posted By: smanzoor
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 1:52pm
Patty
There are always some people, specially on the internet where they can hide behind an alias, who try to act as show spoilers. These people, in my opinion, have no sense of right and wrong. They are driven by their own ethno-centric ideas and beliefs. They donot represent the Muslims. They represent only their own ugly inner selves.
I am sure you will find such idiots, more or less, in every community and forum. Take comfort from the following verse of Quran [5:69]
"Those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Sabiens, and the Nazarenes; whoever of them believes in God and the Last Day and does good works, then they will have nothing to fear nor will they grieve."
Therefore donot fear them and donot be grieved on what they say. And and donot leave.
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Posted By: schwester
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 2:01pm
yeah sunny do not leave i'm gonna miss you:), :)!. look, if you run away from bad things you will never find goodness. you need goodness first of all for yourself, not for others. and if you stay i'll be singing for you songs here later;), and also sometimes dancing
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Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 5:50pm
Patty,
There are always a few bad apples. Christian, Jew and Muslim here. Please, stay. I was so happy to have another sane Christian on this board. Please don't go. All they see here are evangelicals trying to save their soul by bringing them to Christ or hatemongers here to bash Islam. They need more people like us who are good Christians and yet respect their beliefs and Prophet.
God Bless you,
Angela
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Posted By: enes
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 8:33pm
i dont understand.whats going on here...
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Posted By: enes
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 8:39pm
Patty wrote:
I came to this board in good faith in an attempt to learn what Islam is really all about. My expectations were that this forum would provide mature and respectful exchanges of conversation and dialogue on a variety of topics.
I was wrong. People of other faiths are not really accepted here by any means. There is no equality, and I find this extremely disappointing. I had thought better of your religion and culture. However, after many days of being respectful and courteous regarding your beloved religion and prophet, I have learned that it is a one way street. Although there are some who I believe would like to show more parity, but don't out of fear of repercussions.
For this reason I will take what I have learned (most has been negative because of such a lack of respect and horrendous rudeness which is allowed by some immature Muslims.) I had heard (but did not believe) that a Muslim will always stand up for another Muslim no matter what the issue. I did not believe this! I was wrong. This has been one of the toughest lessons I have had to learn, and I have had to accept that I am truly hated by Muslims.....for no reason other than that I am not Muslim.
May Allah/God richly bless each of you and grant you great wisdom.
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I dont got you know,coz i m new here, but good bye...
I m muslim Alhamdulillah, but , I dont hate human...I Always hate bad acts of Human to another Human...
I Please to you 2 stay with peachfull muslims here.
Peace
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Posted By: schwester
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 8:58pm
enes wrote:
[QUOTE=Patty]
I Please to you 2 stay with peachfull muslims here. �
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Peace |
you're welcome my home anytime for some peaches and nice talks:)
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Posted By: enes
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 9:08pm
sister_m82 wrote:
enes wrote:
[QUOTE=Patty]
I Please to you 2 stay with peachfull muslims here.
Peace
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you're welcome my home anytime for some peaches and nice talks:) |
sorry i dont follow you....I m a bit late with thinking i guess, i m not so intelligent human I think i was talking to Patty or?
does make sense, maybe my spelling of Peach instead Peace?
or somebody remember enes at IC chatroom again? maybe
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Posted By: schwester
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 10:08pm
i'm welcoming Patty to a peachfull conversations:).
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Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 11:19pm
Suleyman wrote:
Man, it is too late too drink,enough please stop!,tomorrow you have work... |
Assalaamu Alaikum:
Br Suley, you really are ok! Patty, sorry you feel that way. That happens to all people. I have seen it all of my 48 years. Sorry you feel offended and are judging a beautiful faith by being offended by a website where humans are just that, human. Before you totally reject the faith, I suggest that you visit a mosque near you on a Friday Jummah session and meet the sisters. You will be amazed. Those are the real Muslims. You judge a tree by the fruit it produces, not by the fertilizer!
------------- "Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.
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Posted By: Suleyman
Date Posted: 04 June 2006 at 11:41pm
Maryah wrote:
Suleyman wrote:
Man, it is too late too drink,enough please stop!,tomorrow you have work... |
Assalaamu Alaikum:
Br Suley, you really are ok!
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I used to be O.K,i am trying to turn back,may Allah forgive my sins...
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Posted By: salman_s
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 12:26am
smanzoor wrote:
Take comfort from the following verse of Quran [5:69]
"Those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Sabiens, and the Nazarenes; whoever of them believes in God and the Last Day and does good works, then they will have nothing to fear nor will they grieve."
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At that times when the verse was revealed all Jews and Christians had not converted to Islam, and they were following thorah and bible
Till then they followed what was revealed before quran and ofcourse theyhad to believe in one Allah and be rightious
Later when the order came to follow Quran and Prophet Mohdammed pbh
They all had change and those who did not are non believers
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Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 12:49am
Suleyman wrote:
Maryah wrote:
Suleyman wrote:
Man, it is too late too drink,enough please stop!,tomorrow you have work... |
Assalaamu Alaikum:
Br Suley, you really are ok!
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I used to be O.K,i am trying to turn back,may Allah forgive my sins...
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I will pray for you my brother, after all. you are in the land my mother came from! how is life in Instanbul these days!
Maryah
------------- "Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.
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Posted By: Suleyman
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 2:03am
Jazak Allah Khair Sister,i do not live in Istanbul till to next year(Allah knows the west),all i can say is the weather is too hot...take care...
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Posted By: enes
Date Posted: 05 June 2006 at 7:15am
sister_m82 wrote:
i'm welcoming Patty to a peachfull conversations:). |
ok.sis..i got you now :) .. You quoted my post, that is why I was thinking...
My brain need time to make correct.steps..
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Posted By: enes
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 9:27am
Patty wrote:
I came to this board in good faith in an attempt to learn what Islam is really all about. My expectations were that this forum would provide mature and respectful exchanges of conversation and dialogue on a variety of topics.
I was wrong. People of other faiths are not really accepted here by any means. There is no equality, and I find this extremely disappointing. I had thought better of your religion and culture. However, after many days of being respectful and courteous regarding your beloved religion and prophet, I have learned that it is a one way street. Although there are some who I believe would like to show more parity, but don't out of fear of repercussions.
For this reason I will take what I have learned (most has been negative because of such a lack of respect and horrendous rudeness which is allowed by some immature Muslims.) I had heard (but did not believe) that a Muslim will always stand up for another Muslim no matter what the issue. I did not believe this! I was wrong. This has been one of the toughest lessons I have had to learn, and I have had to accept that I am truly hated by Muslims.....for no reason other than that I am not Muslim.
May Allah/God richly bless each of you and grant you great wisdom.
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do you stay here?still?
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Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 10:15am
Bismillah,
Patty,
I have pmd you my feelings and I will state here that I think you are a measured, kind, strong person and we will miss you tremendously if you don't return.
------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 07 June 2006 at 10:18am
salman_s wrote:
smanzoor wrote:
Take comfort from the following verse of Quran [5:69]
"Those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Sabiens, and the Nazarenes; whoever of them believes in God and the Last Day and does good works, then they will have nothing to fear nor will they grieve."
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At that times when the verse was revealed all Jews and Christians had not converted to Islam, and they were following thorah and bible
Till then they followed what was revealed before quran and ofcourse theyhad to believe in one Allah and be rightious
Later when the order came to follow Quran and Prophet Mohdammed pbh
They all had change and those who did not are non believers
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Brother Salman,
You must understand that there are many things that we will disagree on. I agree with Brother Suleyman's view. That is also what I learned when I reverted to Islaam. YOU can worship Allah as an unforgiving god, but to me, He is All-Merciful to all of us. Only Allah, The All-Knowing knows what is in anyone's heart, and He is our Protector and Judge.
Peace
------------- Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Posted By: Megatron
Date Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:01am
I think the problem that Patty is talking about is endemic amongst all politco-religious message boards.
I've gone onto pro-U.S. message boards. I'd get lambasted, get called racist names and threatened. I used to call myself Malcolm X and you won't believe the number of private messages with the 'N' word I'd get.
I used to think that this discussion forum was a bit more progressive than that, but you can tell by the dwindling number of Jews and Chirstians that frequent this site that I may be wrong.
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