I hope the moderators can be attentive here as I have both a slight complaint and comment. I understand that its hard for so many members  to intellectually respond to me without using derogatory remarks or replying unintelligently. Perhaps the downfall of human intelligence is to respond to someone in an unintelligent fashion by making personal rearks to the individual which is has no relation to what is being discussed. Sister/Brother Abeer23 made such remarks by saying in the following:

>>>> Abeer23 said: Brother, when you say these kinds of things and lead this kind of lifestyle you shouldn't be surprised when muslim brothers in the mosque give you the "you're okay to pray with but no you can't marry my daughter" attitude.  Nor should you be offended when sisters break off engagements with you.<<<<<<<

Now this was made in the now closed discussion "My ideas on Homosexuality" which was a reference to my comment when I mentioned that I have gay friends whom I discuss and have conversations with and whom I have befriended. Now I can understand that my relationship with gays maybe disagreeable however what does my past have to do with the discussion at hand? Abeer23 says that we must do what is good and forbad what was evil and in the same breath made this remark. I made the mistake in even trusting this so-called Muslim family in expressing some personal feelings and I must apologize for my own ignorance. I assumed that the great e-Muslim community is mindful and respectful of personal issues but I was proven wrong.

These comments are reasons why I'm not so close to Muslims and gives me more of a reason to question my own faith and question whether I belong in Islam. Yes perhaps my faith is weak but at least I'm open about it and struggle to come to grips with my own deficiencies. In the context of Abeer23's comment it seems he/she is justifying not only my experiences with racist families but justify my former fiancee leaving me just to be with her own culture, now in knowing more in depth the personal context and where her/his comments stem from, what  do these relaities have anything to do with the subject of homosexuality? Absolutely nothing!

There are better ways to articulate a disagreement but making personal references towards a subject which nothing personal should be mentioned baffles me. I'm sure none of the moderators are going to respond here but I'sd rather risk the chance than not saying anything. This is totally baffling that we as a community can do this to each other. I am a friend to any human being who is worthy of a friendship. I am no judge over whatever lifesytle a human chooses to lead, but regardless my personal issues of my PAST has nothing to do with my ideas on sexual orientation of others....Can anyone see the shock here besides me?

As Salam Alaikum,

I would be happy to see this whole section of the forum gone.  I read too much bickering and unproductive discussion going on.  We are Muslims, let us act like it.  Allah is watching.