I think you need to read again my message.

I am not saying that the communion does exist only for children to get presents.

I am saying that the children in the school where I was were doing this only for the presents. I wear to God (and remember we have the same One!) that one day, one girl told me that she did not even believe and they were all preparing for the communion.

I was shocked because I did believe in God and I knew about Christianity because we have an old lady who was like my grandmother who taught me until my mum explained that we are Muslims.

I started asking the children one by one, and I swear that they all told me they were doing it for the presents, none of them believed!!! They said they were going to catechism because their parents wanted so only! This is in France and you know there is a lot of atheism in Fracne, it has nothing to do with Spain or Italy, or the US there people are a lot more religious.

When I waas last year before university, we all have to study phylosophy. When the teacher was asking references to christianity, no one knew. No one knew what the tour of babel was, I was the one who answered! I love litterature and in litterature, there are lots of references judeo-christian, like Dostoievski for example. If you want to appreciate litterature and know what an author is talking about, even in paintings and art, you have to know the Bible.

I shall remind you that Muslims believe in the Bible.

here you go, I will let my brothers and sisters judge me. I would like to know what they think.

Salam

Muslima wrote:  This is in France and you know there is a lot of atheism in Fracne, it has nothing to do with Spain or Italy, or the US there people are a lot more religious.

France has had this problem for a very long time.  Not necessarily atheism as much as hypocrisy.  Atheism is more of a modern trend. 

My family, starting with Josias Merle in the early 1600s left France due to religious persecution.  They were Huguenots.  France has never been accepting of people who think differently. 

But, I should say, I thank the Catholics for their persecution or my family would have been beheaded in another 200 years. 

I think your friend Patty got angry for nothing.

I have never insulted anyone's religion and my family has always been very open to anyone: Jewish, Christian or Jeovah witnesses, you name it.

I actually believe the Jeovah's witnesses are not that bad as they do not worship statues. I found quite a few things which made sense, but for me Islam is the only Truth.

Muslima wrote: I actually believe the Jeovah's witnesses are not that bad as they do not worship statues. I found quite a few things which made sense, but for me Islam is the only Truth.

Muslima,

Now, there you go.  That's why Patty is angry....that there is an insult because Catholic's do NOT worship statues.  If one does they are sinning...but Catholic's as a whole do not worship inanimate objects.

See, its not what your saying, its how you say it....

I have already stated 3 times that idolatry is a MORTAL SIN.  That means if one commits a MORTAL SIN and dies with that sin on their soul, they are doomed to Hell for all eternity.  Other mortal sins include murder, abortion, homosexual acts, artificial birth control (natural family planning is permitted).....and a whole range of other sins.  The mortal sins are grievous or soul-damning sins!  If Muslima had studied in a Catholic school, this is one of the first things she would have learned.

So why would Muslima still enjoy stating that Catholics WORSHIP statues?  Beats me.

Becasue from my point of view, they do worship statues. Especially the catholics. Those statues represent Jesus and they kneel in front of them to pray.

Maybe to catholics this is not worshiping but to Muslims, it is. From my point of view, this is worshiping. This is the reason why i am not a Catholic.

Also, they drink wine that represent the bllod of jesus (StafEllah!). For us, not only we cannot frink wine but we are not allowed to consume any blood! fake or symbolic!

For us, you also worship jesus, a Prophet among the Prophets (May Peace Be Upon Them All) by stating he is God or the son of God. STAFELLAH!STAFELLAH!SATEFELLAH!

Just mentioning this for me is a sin. Anyway, for us this is worshiping. We do not vene worship Muhammad (SAWS). We worship only Allah!

Any questions, ladies?

Muslima wrote: Becasue from my point of view, they do worship statues. Especially the catholics. Those statues represent Jesus and they kneel in front of them to pray.

From your point of view and islam's BUT NOT to catholics. It is how Patty stated it. To say otherwise is wrong. And it is a difference between the two religions, like there is no communion and baptism in lslam.

yes and i have no problem with this difference, thsi is why i am a Muslim.

But for me, I state that this is Idolatry and it is in Islam.

I do not see where the problem is when I precise what the muslim point of view on this practise is. For us, this is idolatry.

And this is the only think God does not forgive: we call it Shark Billeh. StafEllah!!!!

Muslima wrote: yes and i have no problem with this difference, thsi is why i am a Muslim. But for me, I state that this is Idolatry and it is in Islam. I do not see where the problem is when I precise what the muslim point of view on this practise is. For us, this is idolatry. And this is the only think God does not forgive: we call it Shark Billeh. StafEllah!!!!

Bismillah,

Patty,

I attended a Catholic school for a year and we did have priests, nuns and religion class, which I do remember some things about that, this subject of praying to the statues or through the statues never came up.  And even though my dear friend is Catholic, I didn't ask her about it because I just assumed that she was praying to the statues.  So I need to ask her personally when I get the chance.  I had seen that on tv specials and read a book about it that Catholics worship the statues.  So the fact that you are explaining that you worship through the statue is a new concept for me.

Also, my Vadantan friend explained this in the same way as well, that the statues are a focal point, but not the object of worship. 

So because of this, I am not sure if this is shirk in itself.  You are worshipping God through focusing on a statue asking that person who died, recognizing that they are just people and not gods, to pray for you to God.  We ask people to pray for us all of the time.  What is the exact difference?  Hmm.  I'm just not sure right now.

Peace

Do you even know the difference between "to worship" and "to show respect", Muslima?

How is this Muslim (below article) form of "worship" any different from our prayers said in our churches in front of a statue of Jesus?  Are you committing idolatry by facing east and praying here?  Or are you showing respect?  That's what we are doing in our churches.  We are showing honor and respect:

The Qibla, for any point of reference on the Earth, is the direction to the Kaaba. In Muslim religious practice, supplicants must face this direction at prayer. Some non-Muslims believe that Muslims worship the Kaaba; Muslims themselves say that the Kaaba is simply a focal point for prayer.

Muslim groups in the United States disagree as to how the qibla should be oriented - some believe that the direction should be calculated as a straight line drawn on a flat map, like the familiar Mercator projection of the globe; others say that the direction is determined by the shortest line on the globe of the earth, or a great circle. At times this controversy has lead to heated disputes. Flat-map Muslims in the United States pray east and slightly south; great-circle Muslims face in a north-easterly direction. In both cases, the exact orientation will vary from city to city. [5]

Some Muslims carry qibla compasses that tell them which direction to face no matter where they are,

herjihad wrote: Muslima wrote: yes and i have no problem with this difference, thsi is why i am a Muslim. But for me, I state that this is Idolatry and it is in Islam. I do not see where the problem is when I precise what the muslim point of view on this practise is. For us, this is idolatry. And this is the only think God does not forgive: we call it Shark Billeh. StafEllah!!!! Bismillah, Patty, I attended a Catholic school for a year and we did have priests, nuns and religion class, which I do remember some things about that, this subject of praying to the statues or through the statues never came up.  And even though my dear friend is Catholic, I didn't ask her about it because I just assumed that she was praying to the statues.  So I need to ask her personally when I get the chance.  I had seen that on tv specials and read a book about it that Catholics worship the statues.  So the fact that you are explaining that you worship through the statue is a new concept for me. Also, my Vadantan friend explained this in the same way as well, that the statues are a focal point, but not the object of worship.  So because of this, I am not sure if this is shirk in itself.  You are worshipping God through focusing on a statue asking that person who died, recognizing that they are just people and not gods, to pray for you to God.  We ask people to pray for us all of the time.  What is the exact difference?  Hmm.  I'm just not sure right now. Peace

Thank you, herjihad.  You are wise enough to really investigate and study an issue before condemning a whole religion.  May Allah/God richly bless you always.

God's Peace.

Dear Sister Herjihad!

Please sister do not commit a sin by saying it's Ok, please sister! Our Prophet Mushammed (SAWS) hads destroyed all the statues in Mecca. This is a sin sister! This is the biggest that Allah does not forgive! This is Shirk BIlleh!!

Whe they read what we say about worshipping statues, they change their argumentation. Sister, we are Muslims, do not be fooled!

This is dangerous sister! I know their religion very well. I sued to have to do their pray when i was small until my parents stopped me because an old lady taught me. This is Haram!!!!!

When you enter a church, the first thing you see is the statue of jesus in the centre. they kneel to it and sign themselves. StafEllah!!!! They say Jesus is the son of God!STAFELLAH! STAFELLAH!STAFELLAH!!!

Sister, if they had not changed the message of the Bible and change the words of Allah, Allah would not have given us the Holy Koran. We kept it in Arabic so that no one can modify the Message.

Please sister, this is not because someone is nice to you that you have to follow them in Shirk and say that this is OK...

Remember the sourate that says they have their religion and we have ours.

I say this because I care for you. the Shaytan comes to you very softly to make you commit a sin. He knows he cannot make you fail by big sins, so he will by small, and this lead to the biggest sin of all: ShirkBIlleh....

Salam sister

Muslima

"Remember the sourate that says they have their religion and we have ours."

That is so true....what a pity you do NOT understand ours, and instead prefer to tell it like YOU want others to view it, rather than listening to a life-long Catholic herself.

Muslima,

I was raised in the Russian Orthodox Church.  I have since left.  But there is a difference between worshipping and the use of an icon.

An Icon is a focal point.  Like the Kaaba.  The prayer doesn't go TO the statue, the prayer is to Heaven.  All the Icon, Statue, Mosaic does is gives us a focal point. 

Now there are some who go to far.  In South America there are many who take it too far when a Statue or thing exhibits a miracle.  Most of these are fakes perpetrated by men and the Catholic Church works quickly to find the hoax to save people from their own stupidity.

But Muslima.  You might believe one way, but its still insulting to presume to instruct someone else in their faith.  There are many things that I could do the same with about Islam.  There are some (a few, some....not all) who place Muhammed (pbuh) above all other Prophets.  This is a grave sin in the Quran.  You are to respect all Prophets equally.  Yes, I have witnessed with my own eyes that for some....this is not the case.  Muhammed (pbuh) had been put higher than Moses, Abraham or Isa. (pbut) 

But, there are Muslims who are guilty of this that would argue that they don't do it.  That they just respect him as a man and the Last Prophet.  Who am I to call them a liar?  Its not my place.

Patty and I and others have explained to you that the prayers are not directed at the inanimate object.  Idolatry is when you are worshipping the IDOL as if IT were the person, god or angel.  Not praying to a Saint, God or Angel while viewing a representation of them.  The prayer is going TO those people. 

The pilgrimage to Mecca and your using of statues to speak or pray to God have nothing to do together.

Our religion says your practice idolatry. Whether you agree or not, it's the same. I cannot change my religion to make you feel better, otherwise we would have the same religion. And we do not.

The "as if" says it all. STAFELLAH! This is pure Shirk BIlleh! I will never accept it for you, I will not committ this sin to make you feel better because Allah forbides me to do so. SISTER HERJIHAD, PLEASE FOLLOW ME ON THIS, FOR YOUR OWN SAKE SISTER! I CARE FOR YOU!

Let me clarify something very important about the Prophet (SAWS). Muhammad(SAWS) is the Prophet among the Prophets! He Is The Chosen Prophet among the Prophet. We love all the Prophet but Muhammad (SAWS) is RassoulAllah! He is THE Prophet of Allah, The one Who Was Given The Koran.

Maybe because you believe also in Our Prophets (Except Our Most Beloved One SAWS), you thought we were from the same religion.

Let me tell you again the Sourate: you have your religion and I have mine.

I know about Christianity and I am here because I want to know more about my Muslim brothers, not about christians. No offense but this is a Muslim forum so I'd rather discuss issues about Muslims.

IN the wake of the worldwide protests against the blasphemous cartoons, it has come to light that the ignorance, real or feigned, of the enlightened West regarding Muslim belief about the Prophet of Islam, as also about Prophets of other religions, is tragic and disappointing.

Those who caused such a grave offence to Muslim sensitivity globally were so pathetically ill-informed not only about the person of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) but also about how the Muslims are required by their faith to revere and respect other Prophets of God, specially those named in the Bible and Quran.

It appears that the present-day Christian Europe has not shed from its collective consciousness the vulgar, indecent and entirely unfounded accounts about the Holy Prophet, whose name was deliberately and derisively distorted and circulated by the Christian clergy in mediaeval Europe to ignite the Crusades that lasted for well over two centuries. If it is so, then it is most unfortunate, as it belies the West�s tall claim that it has discarded the religious baggage of yore, having embraced secularism which stands for the belief that the state machinery, moral values, citizens� mindset and educational system should be independent of religious prejudices and predilections.

In Islam, a Prophet, such as Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), is neither God�s offspring, nor His incarnation, nor even His shadow on earth. They were all mortals like any one of us except that they received revelation from their Maker. The Prophet of Islam declared many a time, as can be seen in the text of the Quran that �he was only a mortal like any one else with the difference that it was inspired in him that our God is one and only God� (18: 110 & 41:6). And, as desired by the Almighty, he proclaimed: �Glory to my God! I am no more than a mortal Messenger� (17:93).

The one attribute common to all Prophets of God that distinguishes them from ordinary folks is that they received �revelation� from the Divine Being through a spiritual or �angelic� medium. And, it is entirely God�s prerogative to choose Prophets to convey the Divine dictation to fellow humans for guidance on the right path. The Quran confirms this in these words: �God sends down the angels with the Spirit of His command to whom He wills� (16:2). Similarly, the Quran affirms that all Prophets received �revelation�: �God did not send any Prophet from among the inhabitants of that place who were not given the Divine revelation� (16:109).

Such being the status of all the Divinely-inspired Prophets, the Muslims are required to treat all of them as equally respectable and venerable. The Quran records this fact: �The believers (i.e. Muslims) say that they make no distinction between any of God�s Prophets� (2:285). But what is not permissible for the believers � differentiation between Prophets � is the Almighty�s prerogative. He can, and He did, distinguish and differentiate. In this regard the Quran states: �out of the Prophets, some have been caused by god to excel others � some to whom He spoke, while some of them He exalted in degree, and some, like Jesus son of Mary He supported with the Holy Spirit� (2:253).

In this excerpt from the Scripture, there is reference, evidently, to three Abrahamic Prophets � Moses to whom God spoke, Jesus Christ who was provided support through the holy Ghost and Prophet Muhammad whom He �exalted in degree.� This particular excellence of the Prophet of Islam is also confirmed by an earlier Makkan Surah 94 addressed to him while he was facing tyrannical opposition from Makkan polytheists: �Has god not caused your bosom to open up? And eased you of the burdensome weight that had (metaphorically) bent your back? And exalted your fame?�

Commenting on the phrase: �exalted your fame� Marmaduke Pickthal, the blue-blooded British Muslim, observes (vide his translation of the Glorious Quran) that �speaking of his fame as exalted must have seemed particularly misplaced at that time of humiliation and persecution, but today from every mosque in the world, the Prophet�s name is cried as that of the Messenger of God five times a day and every Muslim prays for blessings on him when his name is mentioned.�

The point arises as to why Muslims pray for Allah�s blessings on him when he, according to his own statement preserved in the Quran, was no more than �a mortal messenger� and had announced, right in the beginning of his apostleship as recorded in the Quran, that he �neither possessed the treasure of Allah nor had knowledge of the Unseen, nor was an angel, but followed only what was inspired in him� (6:50). Not only this. He had, at the same time, declared that �he had no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, except that which Allah willed� (7:188).

Then what are the reasons for such extraordinary attachment of his followers with his memory and devotion to his name by generations after generations of believers throughout the world?

For the answer, just consider the facts: An unlettered person born and brought up in a family and place not familiar with formal education, attaining manhood in a country devoid of literacy and learning traditions where there was no study circle like that of the Greek philosophers and where lived no consummate genius who knew the history of the rise and fall of nations, or had studied various theological systems, or was well-versed in ethics and social sciences, or was an authority on law and legal doctrines and so on and so forth.

A person with no formal education having spent 40 years of his life amongst his townsmen, mostly in public and partly in the seclusion of a cave, one fine morning comes out of the cave, stands on the summit of a hill and gives a clarion call to his elders, chieftains of tribes and ordinary folks to listen to his words that were inspired in him by the Creator and Sustainer of the universe. And then the stream of inimitable verses of the Quran shedding light on all conceivable topics that concern human life � from creation to culture, from ethics to criminal law and social justice, from worship to trade and commerce, from waging war in self-defence to making peace with stubborn foes and sworn enemies.

The stream kept flowing for a little over two decades and in the words of Lane Poole, �his doctrine falling upon a people prone to quick impulses and susceptible of strong impressions worked a revolution� (�Moors in Spain�).

But it was not oratory and erudition alone that had attracted his fellow citizens� attention to him. It were also his pragmatism, practicality and unmatched ability to implement, by personal example, all the precepts that he preached. This rare quality acted as a magnet and bound to him all who come close to him who are till today remembered with utmost deference by Muslims, wherever they are, as the Prophet�s Companions (may God be pleased with them).

None of them disobeyed him while he was there and none of them even thought of betraying him. They all accepted him as their leader in this life and their intercessor in life hereafter. Not because they had seen him performing miracles but because they saw in him the signs of a miraculous person, a Divinely-inspired holy man, who was not a recluse, but more active and more involved than others in social, political and administrative affairs of the ideal state which he founded with the collective efforts of his followers. He succeeded in his mission in his life time although he had not even a quarter of a century to work his way through hardships and adversity to accomplish what he was destined to attain.

It is such a person who has inspired and guided the past and present generations of believers and, God willing, the scripture and the example left by him will continue to inspire and guide generations to come till time ceases to tick.

http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/24/op.htm - http://www.dawn.com/2006/03/24/op.htm

The Quran clearly states..

002.285
YUSUFALI: The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His messengers." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."
PICKTHAL: The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying.
SHAKIR: The messenger believes in what has been revealed to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers; they all believe in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers; We make no difference between any of His messengers; and they say: We hear and obey, our Lord! Thy forgiveness (do we crave), and to Thee is the eventual course.

"No offense but this is a Muslim forum so I'd rather discuss issues about Muslims."

Of course you would.  Your bigotry is far too pronounced to allow you to converse with other "People of the Book".  So be it!

Sister Muslima:

Muslims are to make no distinction between the Prophets of God(PBUT). To do so is a violation of God's Word:

2:285 The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."

4:152 To those who believe in Allah and His apostles and make no distinction between any of the apostles, we shall soon give their (due) rewards: for Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.

And each period had a Book revealed by Allah(SWT):

13:38 We did send apostles before thee, and appointed for them wives and children: and it was never the part of an apostle to bring a sign except as Allah permitted (or commanded). For each period is a Book (revealed).

Mishmish,

We do believe in all the Prophets sister, I am not denying that, but Muhammad is The Prophet of the Prophets. ResoulAllah! When you do the Shahada, this is Allah and His Prophet that you recognise, He is The First and The Last.

Of course Patty they are mortal, they are not divine but they have been chosen and that is why they are Prophets.

Muslima wrote: Dear Sister Herjihad! Please sister do not commit a sin by saying it's Ok, please sister! Our Prophet Mushammed (SAWS) hads destroyed all the statues in Mecca. This is a sin sister! This is the biggest that Allah does not forgive! This is Shirk BIlleh!! Whe they read what we say about worshipping statues, they change their argumentation. Sister, we are Muslims, do not be fooled! This is dangerous sister! I know their religion very well. I sued to have to do their pray when i was small until my parents stopped me because an old lady taught me. This is Haram!!!!! When you enter a church, the first thing you see is the statue of jesus in the centre. they kneel to it and sign themselves. StafEllah!!!! They say Jesus is the son of God!STAFELLAH! STAFELLAH!STAFELLAH!!! Sister, if they had not changed the message of the Bible and change the words of Allah, Allah would not have given us the Holy Koran. We kept it in Arabic so that no one can modify the Message. Please sister, this is not because someone is nice to you that you have to follow them in Shirk and say that this is OK... Remember the sourate that says they have their religion and we have ours. I say this because I care for you. the Shaytan comes to you very softly to make you commit a sin. He knows he cannot make you fail by big sins, so he will by small, and this lead to the biggest sin of all: ShirkBIlleh.... Salam sister Muslima

Dear Sister Muslima,

Don't worry, sister.  Thinking is allowed.  You address two separate issues.   The one I spoke about is whether or not using a focal point to pray is considered shirk. 

Now, the people prayed to the statues of the Ka'aba.  This is clear to me from books I have read on the subject.  If a family's statue broke, they really thought that that god would no longer protect them and they couldn't worship it until they got another one. 

They also worshipped multiple gods.  Even Hinduism doesn't worship the statue, but the spirit of their gods that that statue embodies for them.  They believe that the multiple attributes of one god are exemplified through the statues and pray to the "baby god" for example, through it's statue.

Anyway, the above idea is different altogether from the second topic you raised, which is Who is God.  As Muslims we believe that Allah, The Most Powerful, would never be in human form or have human attributes, that He is neither male nor female, and has no beginning or ending.  They don't  believe this, and this is separate from the other issue, I believe.  I became a Muslim because Allah, The Truth, opened my heart to it.  The Quran appealed to me because it says that men and women are equal in piety before Allah and that Allah is neither male nor female. 

I personally do not like to think of anyone in hell except the most evil human beings.  And even then, Allah, The Most Merciful, is in charge of that, so I don't bother with worrying about it.

Thank you for caring about me.

Peace

Muslima wrote: Mishmish, We do believe in all the Prophets sister, I am not denying that, but Muhammad is The Prophet of the Prophets. ResoulAllah! When you do the Shahada, this is Allah and His Prophet that you recognise, He is The First and The Last. Of course Patty they are mortal, they are not divine but they have been chosen and that is why they are Prophets.

Sister,

By placing the Prophet Mohammed above other Prophets you are not following Allah's injunction in the Quran that Muslims do not distinguish between the Prophets in any way. All of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah(SWT) were chosen and special. They each had their own gifts from Allah(SWT). We can not place one over the other. To do so would be to start down the path that the Christians took with the Prophet Jesus(PBUH).

When I do shahada I recognise that there is only ONE Deity, and that is Allah(SWT) and that Mohammed is the last Messenger of Allah(SWT).  I DO NOT recognise The Prophet Mohammed as being more than the other Prophets or more than a man in any way.

The Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) was given the revelations from Allah(SWT) in the miracle of the Quran, that completed the religion, but that is not more than the Prophet Adam(PBUH) the first of mankind created by Allah from no man or woman, but the clay of the earth.  Or the Prophet Musa(PBUH) who spoke directly to Allah(SWT), or the Prophet Jesus(PBUH) who breathed life into a clay bird. All of the Prophets(PBUH) were just men who were made pure by Allah(SWT), then given His Word to show us proper guidance. There is no difference between them. And we are told by Allah(SWT) to make no difference between them.

ak_m_f wrote: From today you will be known as Mishmish the wise one.

Yeah, right!!!! 

ak_m_f wrote: From today you will be known as Mishmish the wise one.

  i realized this long time ago

Assalamu Alaikum:

I have never heard this when I was at the musjid. If I did I would ask about it.

I remember one time I was at a lecture and the Sheikh was saying that when you do wudu you have to wash the back of your neck. This is mustahab according to the Hanafis, but it is not fard and it is not the Sunnah. Most of the malikis say it is disliked.  I asked him about this and we actually had a disagreement because I asked him for the daleel that it was fard or even Sunnah.

I have had individuals tell me that the Prophet(PBUH) was the most perfect man, the best prophet, etc... but this is not correct according to Quran. They are making something of the Prophet(PBUH) that Allah(SWT) did not. The Prophet warned of this occuring:

On the authority of Anas (RA ) it is reported that some people said: "Oh, Messenger of Allah (PBUH )! Oh, the best of us and the son of the best of us! Our Master and the son of our Master!" He (PBUH) replied:

"Oh, you people! Say what you have to say and do not allow yourselves to be seduced by Satan. I am Muhammad, the slave of Allah (SWT ) and His Messenger (PBUH). I do not like you to raise me above the status assigned to me by Allah (SWT ), Almighty All-powerful." (Narrated by An-Nasaa`i with a good Ssanad

Mishmish,

The Prophet Muhammad SAWS is not onlyt The Last but He Is also The First. Muhammad SAWS is The Prophet among The Prophets (MPBUT)

I disagree with you sister.

Salam,

Muslima

Assalamu Alaikum;

I merely posted the Ayats from the Quran and the Hadith. You are not disagreeing with me, but with them.

No, I do not disagree with them. I love all the Prophets and reconginse them all (PBUT) but Muhammad SAWS is The First and The last Prophet.

He Is The Only One Who is RassoulEllah.

When you do Shahada, this is His Name that your pronounce.

We disagree on the interpretation. I was born a Muslim and this is the first time I hear what you are saying.

But Allah Knew He would come to the earth.

I believe in all the prophets but Muhammad is for me The Most Important and beloved One because He brought us the Koran.

But Allah Knows best.