whenever the moderators close a topic, they do so in the best interests of us

masha Allah the moderators are doing a great job

may Allah reward them

there is no need to make such complaints

moderators, continue the way you all are doing

Allah is the source of strength

Megatron wrote: Okay buddy, Why don't you give them back massages and baby sit their kids for free while you're at it.

comments like these force the moderators to close the topic, you little buddy !

masha Allah the moderators are doing a great job

moderators, continue the way you are doing

Allah is the source of strength

Megatron wrote: Can somebody explain to me why so many topics are being closed?  How does that benefit anyone?  What is that saying? That all the viewpoints on the matter have been discussed, slam the gavel, case closed? It seems ludicrous to me to close a topic.  Let people's interest in the topic wane and let it occur by itself.

Bismillah,

Megatron,

Dare I post HERE?  Hmmm.  How should I let you know that I agree with you?  Pm?  Separate topic? 

THIS IS A DISCUSSION BOARD!

I do agree, Brother, except maybe, and I say maybe, when the person who has started a topic asks for it to be closed.  But even then, since this is a public board and others benefit from it, even in this case, I think your case has merit.

PEACE

REMINDER:

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

Assalaamualaikum,

Note regarding this forum:

Only concerned user with complaint ( topic starter ), and IC Moderators/Administrators should take part in conversations. It is not a discussion forum where all users may take part in a "complaint".

Other users ( besides topic starter ), however, may take part in threads related to "comments" ( and not complaints ).

Knowledge01 wrote: REMINDER:   Dear Brothers and Sisters, Assalaamualaikum, Note regarding this forum: Only concerned user with complaint ( topic starter ), and IC Moderators/Administrators should take part in conversations. It is not a discussion forum where all users may take part in a "complaint". Other users ( besides topic starter ), however, may take part in threads related to "comments" ( and not complaints ). Kindly Co-operate. Thank you. Moderator Group

Bismillah,

I disagree with this new policy and have stated so repeatedly.

Peace

Megatron wrote: Stop what? You need to explain to me what to stop so I can stop it.  This is tyrranical!!! If you want to run this discussion forum with an iron fist, then you are very short-sighted my sister.  Kick me off if you must, but I deserve an explanation.  If you don't feel fit to give me one, then you don't consider me a human being with rights and I feel extremely sorry for you.

megatron, read the guidelines, enough is enough !! if you don't abide by the guidelines in future, then you will have to pay the penalty !!

Megatron wrote: This really doesn't concern you salman_s so butt out.

i concerns me, bcuz that cheap comment which u passed was on me, so you .... out !

Megatron wrote: Whateve Salman, I'm talking to Amah, you're name is not Amah last time I checked so move along.

you know what is discussion forum....or you don't !!?  

You still have not explained to me why that comment in any way was offensive to women.

I think it is intelligent to question rules not to break them.  If I knew what rule I broke then I could at least check myself.  But so far you have left me in the dark about what rule I have broken. 

I'm sure you think I broke the rule that I made an offensive comment to women, but I fail to see how the comment you edited out was offensive to women whatsoever.  I don't see how the idea of a back massage or babysitting is offensive to women.  Am I the only one that feels this way?  Am I missing something here?  Are you reading between the lines, because I assure you there is nothing there.

If you feel I was offensive to Salman, I will yield do that thought and I understand why that line was deleted, but I was only jesting.  I personally feel and I reiterate that my comment was not offensive to women.  Maybe you can humor me and explain to me why you found it offensive.

megatron, will you stop being adamant ?

first, you are adamant about why the topic is closed !

and now, you are being adamant about why your post was edited !

Megatron:

For most Muslim women, the suggestion of any non-mehram man touching their body in any way is rather offensive. Especially since modesty is so important in our religion, and most Muslim women would not dream of allowing any non-relative to touch her or really even talk about it.

As for closing certain threads, once a thread has degenerated to the point that the original topic is lost and the posters are merely insulting each other there is no point in keeping it open. If posters wish to continue harassing each other or calling names, they may do so in private via PM or e-mail.

Mishmish wrote:  For most Muslim women, the suggestion of any non-mehram man touching their body in any way is rather offensive. Especially since modesty is so important in our religion, and most Muslim women would not dream of allowing any non-relative to touch her or really even talk about it.

Okay...I understand now.  I'm sorry that I made that comment about back massages.  I thought the moderator on here was a male, but I stand corrected.  I did not intend my comments to be of a sexual nature.  Maybe I should have said "Mowed your lawn" instead of back massage.  But the idea of one man giving another man a back massage cracks me up....that's why I said that. 

Anyway...sorry for the offense...it won't happen again.

Megatron wrote: Mishmish wrote:  For most Muslim women, the suggestion of any non-mehram man touching their body in any way is rather offensive. Especially since modesty is so important in our religion, and most Muslim women would not dream of allowing any non-relative to touch her or really even talk about it. Okay...I understand now.  I'm sorry that I made that comment about back massages.  I thought the moderator on here was a male, but I stand corrected.

you knew that the moderator was female !

thats y u made that comment on baby sitting !

shame on u that u r still laughing !

We have male and female Moderators. Sister Amah and I are female.

I appreciate your understanding and apology. Thank you.

salman_s wrote: Megatron wrote: Mishmish wrote:  For most Muslim women, the suggestion of any non-mehram man touching their body in any way is rather offensive. Especially since modesty is so important in our religion, and most Muslim women would not dream of allowing any non-relative to touch her or really even talk about it. Okay...I understand now.  I'm sorry that I made that comment about back massages.  I thought the moderator on here was a male, but I stand corrected.  you knew that the moderator was female ! thats y u made that comment on baby sitting ! shame on u that u r still laughing !

Assalamu Alaikum Salman:

Men can have children too. If he said he is sorry, we should accept that and move on, Insha'Allah.

Yeah Salman,

Maybe you should learn about biology and realize that men are needed to have children.

may be megatron you should first join moral science classes and learn about moral values

ak_m_f wrote: salman_s wrote: may be megatron you should first join moral science classes and learn about moral values   yes becuase I heard that Megatro is cloning animals... jeez get a life dude.

ak_m_f, improve your english ! 'dude', 'damn' stop using such words ! you can't speak pure english ! you speak like gangsters !

More and more business are moving to india actually. Lots of british copmpanies employ and more and more, jobs required are very high standard.

It seems they have an excellent English.

ak_m_f wrote: No offence, taking english lesson from an Indian is the last thing I need bye Salman. see you on some Jihadi forum

it is a fact that indians speak the purest english !

we indians don't use words like 'damn', 'dude'.....neither do we use abbrevated form of abusive language like you so, ak_m_f !

insha Allah i will see you in some jihadi forum ak_m_f ! you need to learn about jihad !

ak_m_f wrote: salman_s wrote: insha Allah i will see you in some jihadi forum ak_m_f ! you need to learn about jihad ! I dont visit terrorist websites

i m calling you in a jihadi website ! but you think that jihad is an act of terrorism ! your thinking is against the teachings of islam ak_m_f !

but if you don't want to come in jihadi forum, then its ur wish, u may then become a US or israeli soldier !

amah wrote: Megatron wrote: Stop what? You need to explain to me what to stop so I can stop it.  This is tyrranical!!! If you want to run this discussion forum with an iron fist, then you are very short-sighted my sister.  Kick me off if you must, but I deserve an explanation.  If you don't feel fit to give me one, then you don't consider me a human being with rights and I feel extremely sorry for you. I did not ask you to stop posting, I only asked you to stop talking about that "comment" of yours. If you considered me (and others) as human beings , if you had any respect for women, you would not have made that comment. If you think I do not care for your feelings and want you "kicked off" then that is your misunderstanding. You think it is "intelligent" to question rules and ok to break rules. Rules are here to protect members from people who disregard others' feelings, culture and religion. We all need to respect each other. AND we need to respect the guidelines. Wassalaam.

Bismillah,

Brother Megatron, Actually, someone suggesting that to a Muslim lady, and other ladies as well, would not only offend her, but also her husband/father/son/daugter -- it's a family honor issue.  Maybe you didn't understand this taboo or that the moderators were female, but you do know what happens when we assume things, right?

I seem to remember mentioning that it may not be taken well to suggest such a thing, but then lately I haven't been wording things so that even people who I thought knew me very well and my opinions on things have completely misinterpretted what I say.

Peace

Actually, it is not only call centres. They are moving towwards high standard jobs and more specifically in cinema and anything to do with digital imaging.

They did not say anything about pakistan, but maybe soon inshAllah.

Knowledge01 wrote: I am amazed and disgusted at all the disrespect, foolishness, undisciplined, unIslamic behavior I am seeing in this topic and throughout the forum.

just observe carefully from where and who starts the flame of fire!

we cannot sit quiet and tolerate !

salman_s wrote: Knowledge01 wrote: I am amazed and disgusted at all the disrespect, foolishness, undisciplined, unIslamic behavior I am seeing in this topic and throughout the forum. just observe carefully from where and who starts the flame of fire! we cannot sit quiet and tolerate !

Who do you think is responsible? I see more than one person acting these ways.

ak_m_f wrote: Knowledge01 wrote: salman_s wrote: Knowledge01 wrote: I am amazed and disgusted at all the disrespect, foolishness, undisciplined, unIslamic behavior I am seeing in this topic and throughout the forum. just observe carefully from where and who starts the flame of fire! we cannot sit quiet and tolerate ! Who do you think is responsible? I see more than one person acting these ways. everything was fine before salman & muslima came here. Does this gives you any hint?

ak_m_f hates muslim brothers and sisters, indians etc. and supports the wrong-doers such as US and Israeli soldiers !

this gives you a proof who is responsible

ak_m_f wrote: NO slaman, I am against Isreali occupation & American invasion of iraq.( you can see this from my previous post ) salman your approach to kill every American & isreali is what I dont agree on.

you agree on your approach to kill every palestinian, afghani, iraqi and muslim friends at the hands of non-muslims

ak_m_f wrote: salman_s wrote: ak_m_f wrote: NO slaman, I am against Isreali occupation & American invasion of iraq.( you can see this from my previous post ) salman your approach to kill every American & isreali is what I dont agree on. you agree on your approach to kill every palestinian, afghani, iraqi and muslim friends at the hands of non-muslims I never said that. Salman I really do care about our muslim brothers in Iraq,Afghanistan,kashmir & Palestine. But I disagree with killing civilians as a form of retaliation attack. Why cant they just attack army? the pople who are fighting them not some child going to school.

their army is stronger than our people ! i told you those jihadis are helpless ! they have only those means to terrorize the enemy ! if they had fighter jets and aeroplanes to fight they would have adopted much simpler method to fight the enemies and protect our muslim freinds and would have kicked US out of iraq, afghanistan and israel out of palestinian territory !

ak_m_f wrote: salman_s wrote: their army is stronger than our people ! i told you those jihadis are helpless ! they have only those means to terrorize the enemy ! if they had fighter jets and aeroplanes to fight they would have adopted much simpler method to fight the enemies and protect our muslim freinds and would have kicked US out of iraq, afghanistan and israel out of palestinian territory !   Then salman, I suggest them to get Education, work on techonology. make weapons. When they are strong then fight. Killing civlians will earn sympathy for Isreal & hatered for palestine.( like majority of people here in America)

who will provide them means to get educated? the west and israelis want the destruction of muslims !

so, the best education for we muslims is the Holy Qur'an and the term jihad !

ak_m_f wrote: salman_s wrote: who will provide them means to get educated? the west and israelis want the destruction of muslims ! so, the best education for we muslims is the Holy Qur'an and the term jihad !   salman, let me tell you something. When paksitan started its nuclear program, US & isreali government were very scared, they slapped sanctions on us. We worked hard. researched, got education. no one gave us any help. bhutto said (PM of Pak in 80's)" We will eat grass for 1000 years but Allah willing we will get there". look at us now, we have techonology, we are making Submarines, fighter jets, tanks,cruise-missles. also our economy is increasing. We proved to US & Isreali that we are responsible people, we will never let our nukes fall in wrong hands. Its duty of whole muslim ummah to help them, financially. If Muslim state of ottomann empire wasnt divided because of Arabs, we wouldnt have been in this situation. This is the only Plan I can come up for palestine, do you have better one salman?

pakistan has always been a friend of U.S. it is pakistan who allowed U.S. to invade afghanistan. ak_m_f. and don't think that pakistan is very well developed in terms of weapons and technology !

palestine is being occupied by israelis, innocent palestinian civilians being killed daily at the hands of israelis, more so, U.S. providing israelis the help !

how do u think palestine can develop in such situation? the best education for us muslims is Holy Qur'an and jihad

as i said, the west and israelis want the destruction of us muslims in palestine and other areas and want to bully everybody ! that is why, iran is challenging US, masha Allah iran has a great leader called mahmoud ahmadinejad. we muslims need more people like him !