The pretext to war is usually the conflict of interests and ideals, then the atmosphere gets heated to a boiling point and then one invades the other or tries to invade the other...people die and alot gets destroyed...one side will be victorious and satisfied with victory and the other is relieved the violence is over and tired....

War is kind of like rape but rape is when one does not wish intercourse and is forced to have it...war is kinder then rape because both sides wish to engage eachother usually as to see who wins....

Missiles, the guns and the canons of the tanks and artilary pieces...how rounds are shot "ejected" out of the barreles and canons...you must admit war has alot of things that could be reffered to as sexual...i wonder why Allah has made this so in His wisdom? are there lessons in all of these signs?

War brings death and destruction

Sex is ment for reproduction

can someone explain to me what it means?

(those who now yell "pervert!" can k*** my @hotmail.com)

Is there any charachteristic in war that could attributed to a woman's sexuality? except for the russian tactics with Napoleon and Hitler "let them come in and burn everything in their way and let the winter finish them off" i can not really think of anything feminine in war...

Except for...".after the war is won being relieved the violence is over and being tired" being a feminine aspect....

Am i pissed off or something?

So why this opposition to the war by these liberals? how odd!

What is really going on? will we ever find out? lol stay tuned....

StarComm wrote: Is there any charachteristic in war that could attributed to a woman's sexuality?

nope.

i can not really think of anything feminine in war...

exactly!, because war is created by men!  

Angel wrote: StarComm wrote: Is there any charachteristic in war that could attributed to a woman's sexuality?  nope. i can not really think of anything feminine in war... exactly!, because war is created by men!

In the time of the "Cave men"...Who used to stay home and inform the man with every piece of "social news"? gossip? the women....they formed the first intelligence agency (lol)...and if the women give them men faulty intelligence because they can be nasty jeleous liars then you see wars starting...eventually none will pay for their bad actions except those who did them, that is afterall justice.

Israfil wrote: ?

don't worry, i think starcomm is thinking out aloud on some thing

StarComm wrote: The question remains, why o why are liberals against the war....

I'm not liberal but I am against the war in Iraq. I do agree with Afghanistan as they were letting bin ladan stay there but Iraq was not a threat to us. I think they may of become a threat if they started working with terrorists but at the time we had more pressing issues.

ops154 wrote: StarComm wrote: The question remains, why o why are liberals against the war....   I'm not liberal but I am against the war in Iraq. I do agree with Afghanistan as they were letting bin ladan stay there but Iraq was not a threat to us. I think they may of become a threat if they started working with terrorists but at the time we had more pressing issues.

If you were a soldier in Iraq having to engage the enemy everyday i am sure you would not have the luxury of think the war is wrong...like you would put your life on the line for something wrong...anyway, what do you mean by "more pressing?" energy? social security? or the fact that alot of people will retire which is a major problem?

StarComm wrote: ops154 wrote: StarComm wrote: The question remains, why o why are liberals against the war....   I'm not liberal but I am against the war in Iraq. I do agree with Afghanistan as they were letting bin ladan stay there but Iraq was not a threat to us. I think they may of become a threat if they started working with terrorists but at the time we had more pressing issues. If you were a soldier in Iraq having to engage the enemy everyday i am sure you would not have the luxury of think the war is wrong...like you would put your life on the line for something wrong...anyway, what do you mean by "more pressing?" energy? social security? or the fact that alot of people will retire which is a major problem?

Why would I not be able to think that way if I was in Iraq? Why even say something so stupid? A soldier can think what they want as long as they do what they are lawfully told to do. You apperantly don't read anything I have posted before as I am one of the few who stick up for our troops so if you are saying something different then get informed and then come back to talk. More pressing issues? Well let's see, corporate america running amock, North Korea, huge amounts of high school drop out rates, high infant death rates, lobbists, patriot act, government scandles, etc. I could go on but as you see, nation building should be towards the bottom of the "To Do" list.

ops154 wrote: Why would I not be able to think that way if I was in Iraq? Why even say something so stupid? A soldier can think what they want as long as they do what they are lawfully told to do. You apperantly don't read anything I have posted before as I am one of the few who stick up for our troops so if you are saying something different then get informed and then come back to talk. More pressing issues? Well let's see, corporate america running amock, North Korea, huge amounts of high school drop out rates, high infant death rates, lobbists, patriot act, government scandles, etc. I could go on but as you see, nation building should be towards the bottom of the "To Do" list.

Ho Ho, i already answered that question, cause most people who have a bit of moral decency would not wish to fight for a wrong cause or die for it...sure there are those robots who just "do as they are told", but i was talking about humanbeings....and as you can tell i am a newbie here so excuse if i did not read your honorable words about the troops in Iraq....

As for your "more pressing issues", i believe there will always people whining around wishing it to get better, they never wonder "what if this is as good as it gets?"...drop outs? into the military with them...get them a nice "G.I bill" if they make it out alive.

StarComm wrote: ops154 wrote: Why would I not be able to think that way if I was in Iraq? Why even say something so stupid? A soldier can think what they want as long as they do what they are lawfully told to do. You apperantly don't read anything I have posted before as I am one of the few who stick up for our troops so if you are saying something different then get informed and then come back to talk. More pressing issues? Well let's see, corporate america running amock, North Korea, huge amounts of high school drop out rates, high infant death rates, lobbists, patriot act, government scandles, etc. I could go on but as you see, nation building should be towards the bottom of the "To Do" list. Ho Ho, i already answered that question, cause most people who have a bit of moral decency would not wish to fight for a wrong cause or die for it...sure there are those robots who just "do as they are told", but i was talking about humanbeings....and as you can tell i am a newbie here so excuse if i did not read your honorable words about the troops in Iraq.... As for your "more pressing issues", i believe there will always people whining around wishing it to get better, they never wonder "what if this is as good as it gets?"...drop outs? into the military with them...get them a nice "G.I bill" if they make it out alive.

Those "robots" are soldiers unlike the COWARDS who refuse to go. When you enlist you know you may have to do things you don't like but when you fail to go then you put someone else's life in danger because you were to much of COWARD to go. Soldiers are to do what they are lawfully told to do. "humans" can sit behind a computer and judge those who do the job you won't.

why is the word "coward" so big? is it a word you feel has some kind of weight in your life?

Anyway i might be a coward(i am a civilian), but i know i would not be if i was in the military...i guess that's because it is easier to show bravery when one is under the command of others....You know, i just feel like letting this frustration you have with me for whatever reason bleed out....see you on the other side!

StarComm wrote: why is the word "coward" so big? is it a word you feel has some kind of weight in your life? Anyway i might be a coward(i am a civilian), but i know i would not be if i was in the military...i guess that's because it is easier to show bravery when one is under the command of others....You know, i just feel like letting this frustration you have with me for whatever reason bleed out....see you on the other side!

My frustrations is with so many here that support desserters as heros when they are from from that.

Yeah, we people mistake love for desire and greed...problem of many christians...and then preeching how much they love the arabs and other non christian people while working to exterminate them....and killing them by the thousands...well, love eachother to death i would say...but remember the AIDS! That's like a virus that just destroys the immune system which renders the body defenceless against other viruses and infections with eventually death as a result...i am sure some would want to lable the AIDS virus a "terrorist", that is if one is far enough to realize that reality has different levels with which one can confirm truths...well, i guess (aids) comes by ones own actions...unsave sex, wrong kinda needles for a quick feel good which they do not deserve and ofcourse homosexuality, and what else...ow yeah hospitals in poor countries who can not afford clean injection needles....the only ones i believe are done injustice are the ones that get infected by the unclean needles in hospitals because they are poor...because of people ammusing themselves, unrightfully so, thats why a frickin junky kills himself in his effort to keep feeling good...same with those who wish to hop from the one "Feel good" to the next....the fun is in the hunt and not the kill huh? AIDS....

There is the tree...do i see you sitting in it? i think so....having fun in there? yes i know, once i was there too, but then i got down when i started feeling it was time to go down from there, when i found out i was running from something that i was not scared of anymore.

Starcomm, I think you thread defeats the purpose of make love not war

btw, you don't need to let people you edited your post, its says so automatcially after

I know...you are right, it does defeat the fake dream of "make love not war". Dagon hippies, what they left us with is a whole generation of bastards and loop brains...They really believed they were doing something revolutionary good...with their picked flowers...they should have realized the truth of that flower, after it's plucked it starts to die REAL fast and become yellow...had they left it maybe other people would have had the chance to enjoy the sight of those flowers...but no, they just had to pick it in their "happiness"...

Hey, is it not some sort of coincidence that the hippy movement started around the time the Vietnam war started? who knows what would have happened had they not been there? (i guess the "trend setter first orriginal no copy yet made hippy" was some sort of a leader....man did he have alot of followers...he must have been from Brooklyn or some rich people's child who chose to rebel against his daddy the arms salesman.....

sorry...