Sunnah and Hadith
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Topic: Sunnah and Hadith
Posted By: B.H.
Subject: Sunnah and Hadith
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 4:35pm
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Could someone tell me more about Sunnah and Hadith? Thanks. |
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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 4:39pm
| your question is too vague, is there any particular sunnah or hadith? |
Posted By: B.H.
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 5:14pm
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Do Sunnah and Hadith have the same authority as the Koran? Is Sunnah and Hadith considered infallible and there is no possibility that a false Sunnah or Hadith have been put in with legitimate Sunnah and Hadith? |
Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 12 July 2006 at 4:13am
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Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaikum Hadith are strictly the sayings of Sayyidina Muhammad (saw). Now there are different categories of ahadith, for it to be called authentic all the narators should be well known and known to be trustworthy. There are nine or ten major books which mostly scholars say are quite accurate. Now where ever there is an issue of law making only the strongest ahadith are used for that. Any thing with a slightest doubt is not considered. First and foremost source is Holy Quran, if a matter is not found thoroughly in it then ahadith are looked at. Now if there is a contradiction then Holy Quran is the preference. Saying that a contradiction for a common folk might not be for a scholars. Because some times scholars know the circumstances with that hadith so you need to be quite learned to decide on your own about the authenticity of hadith. Another thing is that with Holy Quran, you cant disagree with it even though you don't understand it. But if you have some sort of doubt about a hadith, then you can overlook it, dont be disrespectful because it could well be saying of the Prophet (saw) and its your understanding which is falling short. If you looking for hadith collections then this is the online site for four of the major books. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html . Imam Malik's muwatta about which is said that it is most authentic book after Holy Quran. There is sahih bukhari and sahih muslim, two most widely used ahadith collections. But again you need to remember you cant draw laws straight from these collection unless and untill you know about the circumstances in which these were said. Now the sunnah is the acts of the Prophet (saw) along with what he said and where he stayed quite for an act done infront of him. Now laws of shari'a are not derived from sunnah. So scholars of sunnah were not as stingy as scholars of hadith in accepting an act of bieng the act of Prophet (saw). So you see many different school of thoughts having different acts of sunnah in thier worship acts but the fard stays almost same becuase they are derived from strict authentic ahadith. Now it is possible that there are false ahadith or sunnah out there, so its good to start with the fard and well known. Fill your heart with sincerity and rememberance of Allah swt through Holy Quran. Learn about the laws from where you see no extreme, in any case. Allah swt does give you a sight of heart to seperate the doubtful from the right if you strictly follow his laws which are certain. May Allah swt guide you to His straight path and to His pleasure, ameen wassalam ------------- Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL |
Posted By: B.H.
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 9:15am
| I have been looking over the collection of Hadith that you posted. I assume that there is commentary by teachers as well as information about historical context for each hadith. Do you know where I could find this? |
Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 6:25am
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Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaikum There are few books with commentary but i am afraid all of them are in arabic. As i said its not for a common folk to drive laws out of ahadith. But as i can see you want to learn, i think you should start with Holy Quran and its tafaasir. Most of the issues are explained and the related ahadith are also presented there which explain the true meaning of those ahadith. Now if you want to learn about the laws of different acts then you have to get some fiqh books. There are quite few good ones available in english these days. There is al-hidayah, which i think is hanafi, then there is reliance of traveler which is shafi', and the distinguished jurists primer which helps you with how different school of thoughts have come up with thier rules but it is written by a maliki scholar. Ahadith collections are just to learn about what Sayyidina Muhammad (saw) has said in so many words about different things. If you have knowledge of Holy Quran in your heart then thats the next step. wassalam ------------- Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL |
Posted By: B.H.
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 12:48pm
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I have another question. What's up with the "Qur'an only" versus "Qur'an plus Hadith/Sunnah" doctrines?
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Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 1:05pm
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Assalaamualaikum, Kindly elaborate.  Wassalaam. ------------- Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper). (Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45) |
Posted By: B.H.
Date Posted: 24 July 2006 at 3:29pm
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there are some Muslims who argue we should follow only the Quran and others say you have to follow the Sunnah and Hadith too.
Which one is correct? OR, does both sides have some right and wrong to them? |
Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 25 July 2006 at 5:36am
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Assalaamualaikum Allah has asked us in the Quran to obey Him AND His Messenger ie Prophet Muhammad (saw). This command has appeared in many places in the Quran. (I will post as many as I can, soon.) Each and everything is not written in the Quran for example how to pray, we have to refer to the hadith and sunnah of the Prophet(saw) for guidance. THe Prophet(saw) was always surrounded by companions who noted what he said (hadith) and also what he did (sunnah). These were recorded. Most of them accurately. There are few inaccurate hadith which scholars over the centuries have taken pains to differentiate. It is common sense that any hadith that goes against the quran is invalid. If we do not follow any hadith at all then we are not following the Prophet(saw) and going against the command of Allah in the Quran. How can we obey the Prophet if we disregard hadith and sunnah? Why did Allah send the Prophet? He could have just sent the quran? He sent the Prophet as a living example of how to be a Muslim. His wife Aisha (ra) was asked about the Prophet's character and she replied his character was the Quran. After the Quran, we have to look in the hadith for guidance. Insha Allah I will post some verses that tell us to obey the Prophet(saw) and then you can decide for yourself. Allah knows best. Wassalaam. ------------- Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper). (Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45) |
Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 26 July 2006 at 3:56am
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Assalaamualaikum, Say: "obey Allah and obey the
Messenger, but if you turn away, he (Messenger Muhammad SAW) is only
responsible for the duty placed on him (i.e. to convey Allahs Message) and you
for that placed on you. If you obey him, you shall be on the right guidance. The
Messengers duty is only to convey (the message) in a clear way (i.e. to preach
in a plain way)." O you who believe! obey Allah and
His Messenger, and turn not away from him (i.e. Messenger Muhammad SAW) while
you are hearing. And obey Allah and His Messenger,
and do not dispute (with one another) lest you lose courage and your strength
depart, and be patient. Surely, Allah is with those who are As-Sabirin (the
patient ones, etc.). And obey Allah and the Messenger
(Muhammad SAW) that you may obtain mercy. O you who believe! obey Allah, and
obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) and render not vain your deeds. O you who believe! obey Allah and
obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in
authority. ( سورة
النس&# 1575;ء , An-Nisa, Chapter http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=4&translator=5 - #4 ,
Verse http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=4&translator=5#59 - #59 ) And obey Allah and the Messenger
(Muhammad SAW), (
سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=5&translator=5 - #5 ,
Verse http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=5&translator=5#92 - #92 ) So fear Allah and adjust all
matters of difference among you, and obey Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad
SAW), if you are believers. �and obey Allah and His Messenger.
Allah will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise. Remember, it is important where you get your study material from, there are many books which contain fabricated hadith and information. Always check with knowledgable people. May Allah guide us all to the right path. Wassalaam. ------------- Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper). (Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45) |
Posted By: Asim-2
Date Posted: 17 November 2006 at 1:21am
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