Salaam o alaikum

I'm leaving this online community and very disappointed. I thought I had found a balanced community. That's life.

But I thought for the administrators who care, you may want to train your moderators in being sensitive to people who are visually impaired and you may want o create some acceptable font so that those of us who have serious vision problems can read and write in your forums with out being admonished for every single post.

Salam/Peace,

We do have an item on forum guidelines that talking about font, here it is:

8. Use of upper case and bold/large (font) is not permissible for the whole of the message body. However, these may be used to add emphasis to words or phrases contained within your message.

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I think most of forum members follow this rules (using standard size font). If this is too small for you, you can adjust your screen resolution or like br. AK said you can use "magnifier optiont" and also you can use your browser font size option.

Thanks,

Admin

To Hanan

You are a very rude and insulting person! How dare you slander me when you don't even know me? What type of Muslim are you?

It is harram to lie, and slander people.

For your information, not that owe you or anybody else anything, but since you are slandering me, I'd let you know that in order for me to read other people post I had to highlight their post and than paste and copy of my word pad document and than make it a larger font.

And I used red color to make a point other than that I used black color.

And the times that my font was small is because I changed it back before posting. This is too time consuming for me.

So before you in your arrogant self righteous tone jump down my back, why don't you take a good hard look at your poor adab, and stop slandering people.

You don't even know me, yet you're accusing me of something? How pathetic is your immature behaviour. And who in the heck did I ever tell to look up to me?

For people who claim to be so religious you people lack compassion, and respect.

To The Administrators

Thank you for that advice. I do not have Windows XP but I will look at MY COMPUTER settings tab on my computer and see if I can change the way I can respond.

I still am not planning on continuing to hear, it's not for people like me, but thank you for professional response.

Salaams and Bismillah,

Some of the rules are just silly and don't take into account the visually impaired, I agree.  However, this maybe one of the few things I agree with you on, Sister, but I thought I should weigh in and tell you anyway.

Rules are meant to be helpful.  The point of this rule so people won't feel shouted out.  And using all red has been determined to be a shouting thing by most of the folks here. Hey, you didn't know, right?  We've had discussions about it before.

So bold away.  Follow the rules, I mean.

It's such a pain to read that tiny print, guys!  I'm not at the level of needing a magnifier myself.  a bit of boldness makes it all right.

Salaam HerJihad

Thank you for your feed back.  My intentions has never been to break any rules of any group. I'm too old for such crapp! I came here because I thought it was balanced. I try my best to stay in the middle, and it appears it is unwelcomed. My time is valuable to me.

I didn't know the rule about the bold nor did I know the rule about posting websites, I thought it was okay, and was just trying to particpate in the discussion?

Good grief, we lack patience with other people and are so quick to make judgement and come down hard on each other, no wonder our Ummah is in a state of fitnah.

Salaam

Hanan wrote: oh please, what a bunch of i'm-gonna-make-you-all-feel-guilty bull. you KNOW how to write your posts in the font YOU feel comfortable with and then, BEFORE SENDING IT, make it a smaller font ... out of respect for others who may not want to have huge bold red letters insulting their eyes! when DID YOU announce that you're visually impaired, and how did you read all the other posts in NORMAL font? since you had already "threatened" with your departure on another thread why did you have to make this one in which to, again, announce you're leaving the forum ... to put certain people on a guilt trip, or what? you are so full of yourself, queen bee, and what does that make the rest of us? your subjects?  good luck in finding a BALANCED COMMUNITY anywhere on this earth, especially the kind where everyone agrees and looks up to YOU.

You are so rude, insulting person who does not care about others but yourself, i wonder if you have any friends at all with this attitude. You go around attacking people.

Yes I know you DON'T care about anyone BUT yourself.

UmmAminata wrote:   To Hanan You are a very rude and insulting person! How dare you slander me when you don't even know me? What type of Muslim are you? It is harram to lie, and slander people. For your information, not that owe you or anybody else anything, but since you are slandering me, I'd let you know that in order for me to read other people post I had to highlight their post and than paste and copy of my word pad document and than make it a larger font. And I used red color to make a point other than that I used black color. And the times that my font was small is because I changed it back before posting. This is too time consuming for me. So before you in your arrogant self righteous tone jump down my back, why don't you take a good hard look at your poor adab, and stop slandering people. You don't even know me, yet you're accusing me of something? How pathetic is your immature behaviour. And who in the heck did I ever tell to look up to me? For people who claim to be so religious you people lack compassion, and respect.

Dear Sister,

Why don't you read some past posts on the topics you've mentioned?  Most of us have been hit on the head with the rules.  It's not personal.  Well, it could be.  But what's the point of taking it that way?  Let's move on.  Do you realize that Angel is not Muslim?  Sister Hanan is, however.

Here's an idea:  We can say:  What you said was rude and insulting because...

I know it's hard really because I have topics that when people comment on them in totally senseless and cruel ways it gets my goat too.  But hey, it's a machine.  We can walk away and think about something before we post it.

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

Sister im sure many people like me dint know the reason behind your big and bold font, and now that we know, no one is going to mind inshaAllah. One person's behaviour is not always representation of rest of community and if some1 slanders you then say khair and dont even reply. Alhamdulillah Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is giving you the chance of getting close to Him. First you get the good deeds of the person who has wronged you, second you get thwab for showing patience and letting it go. Lastly if you find it in you to forgive, alhamdulillah nothing is better than that because Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is Most Forgiving and He loves those who forgive others for His sake.

I am not trying to put some1 down here, only explaining a very simple and alhamdulillah beautiful way of islam. We should all learn to control our ways and show politeness in the face of hostility. Because alhamdulillah that is the better way and calms situations so matters could be discussed and resolved.

wassalam

Salaam alaikum

I thought I had unsubcribed from here?

At any rate, Sister HerJihad and Fatima, thank you for your naseehah. Both of you are right.  I should have been more calmer.  I was shocked to see such a hostile post from some one who has never met me nor spoken with me online what so ever. Next time I will " be slow anger" as the Prophet sws has advised us to.

I also did feel a bit attacked by the moderator. I felt that he was too harsh, and was singling me out. Perhaps he thinks I'm not a real Muslim. What's so confusing to me about me being admonished is that there was a young man who posted some very inapproiate language in the same discussion? And it appears that the moderator didn't agree with my views which is normal and to be expected however I thought moderators did not control the topics of content discussed unless particularly vile?

And I will say that I'm not a very technologically inclined person, and am not very good using computers. So I wasn't aware that I had other options.  My college studies didn't focus on technology except typing.

Thank you for understanding, and encouragement. And I will read through some of the older posts on the subject.

Although I think it would be wise to just lay low and refrain from comment. 

This was a good lesson for the naffs

Salaam o alaikum `

As Salaamu Alaikum,

If  you use Internet Explorer, click on the View menu at the top, bring the mouse pointer pointer to Text Size and then select the option 'Largest'.

I hope this helps.

I think this website will be helpful for you.

http://www.knpd.org/mittsfita/dokumenti/abilitynet_factsheets/FreeforVisuallyImpaired.pdf - http://www.knpd.org/mittsfita/dokumenti/abilitynet_factsheet s/FreeforVisuallyImpaired.pdf

UmmAminata wrote:   Salaam alaikum I thought I had unsubcribed from here?

Hi UmmAminata, I believe that would be for the islamicity newsletter not the forum. Anyway you don't need to do anything, if you want just leave and anytime you decide to come back just enter your name and password, providing you remember it

Assalamu Alaikum,

UmmAminata:

I wanted not to respond here so that the matter may cool down. But, it seems it didn't while looking at the following link:

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7302&PN=1&TPN=6 - http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7302& ; ;PN=1&TPN=6

you falsely charged me for couple of things ( such as I was harsh whereas I was polite, that I thought you were not real Muslim, whereas I never commented on your religion, that you were visually impaired and wanted me to be sensitive whereas I had no idea that you were visually impaired and I was only enforcing rules meant for everyone at the forum ).  

Peace

"no matured female moderator" present in the women�s section. This is insulting and goes against guidelines. -Peace Maker

Brother.. if you truly believe that this is insulting, I believe this website than is very  disturbing.

I hope to God this is a typo? I really do.

If the administrators at Islamicity believe that Muslim women requesting that a mature Muslim female be a moderator in the women's sections or on issues that concern women is insulting and a violation against the rules, than that is a very sad and pathetic state of affairs.

Unless your Gynecologist, Obestrician, Pediatrician, or psychologist, I don't understand how you believe you can even be a successful moderator in a women's section.

It's behaviours like this, that continue to show the world, that Islam truly is a woman hating religion which can't even allow a female to even moderate the area that has been specified for females? Where is the logic in this?

I did not make any false allegations against you.  I said "I feel" I never said " This is" etc. I stated how I feel. I have a right to feel any way I choose too, I'm sorry that you can't moderate away my human feelings or control them too.

And as for accusing me of pitting men against women, I have not done such a thing. Just becuase I believe in "telling the truth" and believe in personal accountability doesn't make me a man hating feminist.

If you or the administrators are asking me to ignore or disregard reality, you got a another thing comming.

Assalamu Alaikum,

UmmAminata:

Here is the entire post by "peacemaker".

There are many cyber missionaries here at the forum. You may have a look at them, just visit interfaith forum, and look posts over the last one year period alone.

Why will I have anything against you, Sister? Please don�t misunderstand me. Also that while commenting on me, you should have looked at my other posts to get an idea what I stand for on the whole.

Bottom line is that I didn�t say that you were cyber missionary. If you falsely claim that I am lying, you should consider that you are attacking me for no reason.

You created a thread, "visually impaired" in comment section in which you falsely charged me for couple of things ( such as I was harsh whereas I was polite, that I thought you were not real Muslim, whereas I never commented on your religion, that you were visually impaired and wanted me to be sensitive whereas I had no idea that you were visually impaired in the first place and I was only enforcing rules meant for everyone at the forum ) that I didn�t respond there so that the matter cools down. And I hope that you would take it in positive way if I don�t respond.

For your kind information, I have always fought for the rights of women.

As far as my moderation in women�s section is concerned, please contact admin about that, or post in comment section, elsewhere, please don�t use terms such as "no matured female moderator" present in the women�s section. This is insulting and goes against guidelines.

Again, if you have any concern, please post respectfully in the comment section.

Any sexist posts that would create clashes between "men" and "women" such as its all men�s faults or women�s faults etc would be deleted.

Yes, the thread has lost the direction.

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Assalamu Alaikum,

UmmAminata:

Please quote me in full and not in part.

Above is my post in full.

There are many female moderators here. You have already seen Sister fatima who moderates all sections including Women�s section. If you think, there is no "matured female moderator" or you think that I shouldn�t moderate in women�s section, I meant that contact admin or post in comment section, elsewhere you are not allowed to voice that concern as that will be insulting. Please comply with guidelines.

This thread shows how the matter has been dealt with: name calling, insult, personal attack without any evidence, absolute disregard of guidelines etc . These are the things why we are in the mess.