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The Bible mentions a "whore" who symbolises a "great city" which is to come in the future and which will have great power and will do many evil things...

It also says that the "whore" is surrounded by "abundent waters" and that she is holding "a cup".

This kinda sounds like the Statue of Liberty...

Here's the prophecy:

Revelation Chapters 17 and 18:

1 And there came one of the seven messengers, who were having the seven vials, and he spake with me, saying to me, `Come, I will shew to thee the judgment of the great whore, who is sitting upon the many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth did commit whoredom; and made drunk from the wine of her whoredom were those inhabiting the earth;' 3 and he carried me away to a wilderness in the Spirit, and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet-coloured beast, full of names of evil-speaking, having seven heads and ten horns, 4 and the woman was arrayed with purple and scarlet-colour, and gilded with gold, and precious stone, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom, 5 and upon her forehead was a name written: `Secret, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Whores, and the Abominations of the earth.' 6 And I saw the woman drunken from the blood of the saints, and from the blood of the witnesses of Jesus, and I did wonder -- having seen her -- with great wonder;

7 and the messenger said to me, `Wherefore didst thou wonder? I -- I will tell thee the secret of the woman and of the beast that [is] carrying her, which hath the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 `The beast that thou didst see: it was, and it is not; and it is about to come up out of the abyss, and to go away to destruction, and wonder shall those dwelling upon the earth, whose names have not been written upon the scroll of the life from the foundation of the world, beholding the beast that was, and is not, although it is. 9 `Here [is] the mind that is having wisdom; the seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman doth sit, 10 and there are seven kings, the five did fall, and the one is, the other did not yet come, and when he may come, it behoveth him to remain a little time; 11 and the beast that was, and is not, he also is eighth, and out of the seven he is, and to destruction he doth go away. 12 `And the ten horns that thou sawest, are ten kings, who a kingdom did not yet receive, but authority as kings the same hour do receive with the beast, 13 these have one mind, and their own power and authority to the beast they shall give over;

14 these with the Lamb shall make war, and the Lamb shall overcome them, because Lord of lords he is, and King of kings, and those with him are called, and choice, and stedfast.' 15 And he saith to me, `The waters that thou didst see, where the whore doth sit, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues;' 16 and the ten horns that thou didst see upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her in fire, 17 for God did give into their hearts to do its mind, and to make one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast till the sayings of God may be complete, 18 and the woman that thou didst see is the great city that is having reign over the kings of the land.'

1 And after these things I saw another messenger coming down out of the heaven, having great authority, and the earth was lightened from his glory, 2 and he did cry in might -- a great voice, saying, `Fall, fall did Babylon the great, and she became a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird, 3 because of the wine of the wrath of her whoredom have all the nations drunk, and the kings of the earth with her did commit whoredom, and merchants of the earth from the power of her revel were made rich. 4 And I heard another voice out of the heaven, saying, `Come forth out of her, My people, that ye may not partake with her sins, and that ye may not receive of her plagues, 5 because her sins did follow -- unto the heaven, and God did remember her unrighteousness. 6 Render to her as also she did render to you, and double to her doubles according to her works; in the cup that she did mingle mingle to her double. 7 `As much as she did glorify herself and did revel, so much torment and sorrow give to her, because in her heart she saith, I sit a queen, and a widow I am not, and sorrow I shall not see; 8 because of this, in one day, shall come her plagues, death, and sorrow, and famine; and in fire she shall be utterly burned, because strong [is] the Lord God who is judging her;

9 and weep over her, and smite themselves for her, shall the kings of the earth, who with her did commit whoredom and did revel, when they may see the smoke of her burning, 10 from afar having stood because of the fear of her torment, saying, Wo, wo, the great city! Babylon, the strong city! because in one hour did come thy judgment. 11 `And the merchants of the earth shall weep and sorrow over her, because their lading no one doth buy any more; 12 lading of gold, and silver, and precious stone, and pearl, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyne wood, and every vessel of ivory, and every vessel of most precious wood, and brass, and iron, and marble, 13 and cinnamon, and odours, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and cattle, and sheep, and of horses, and of chariots, and of bodies and souls of men. 14 `And the fruits of the desire of thy soul did go away from thee, and all things -- the dainty and the bright -- did go away from thee, and no more at all mayest thou find them. 15 The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, far off shall stand because of the fear of her torment, weeping, and sorrowing, 16 and saying, Wo, wo, the great city, that was arrayed with fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and gilded in gold, and precious stone, and pearls -- because in one hour so much riches were made waste! 17 `And every shipmaster, and all the company upon the ships, and sailors, and as many as work the sea, far off stood, 18 and were crying, seeing the smoke of her burning, saying, What [city is] like to the great city? 19 and they did cast dust upon their heads, and were crying out, weeping and sorrowing, saying, Wo, wo, the great city! in which were made rich all having ships in the sea, out of her costliness -- for in one hour was she made waste. 20 `Be glad over her, O heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets, because God did judge your judgment of her!' 21 And one strong messenger did take up a stone as a great millstone, and did cast [it] to the sea, saying, `Thus with violence shall Babylon be cast, the great city, and may not be found any more at all; 22 and voice of harpers, and musicians, and pipers, and trumpeters, may not be heard at all in thee any more; and any artizan of any art may not be found at all in thee any more; and noise of a millstone may not be heard at all in thee any more; 23 and light of a lamp may not shine at all in thee any more; and voice of bridegroom and of bride may not be heard at all in thee any more; because thy merchants were the great ones of the earth, because in thy sorcery were all the nations led astray, 24 and in her blood of prophets and of saints was found, and of all those who have been slain on the earth.'

 

 

"having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom"

Some think this city is Babylon in Iraq, but the Bible doesnt simply say "Babylon". It says: "Secret, Babylon the Great".

So it's "Babylon the Great" and this is its Secret name.

 "because of the wine of the wrath of her whoredom have all the nations drunk, and the kings of the earth with her did commit whoredom, and merchants of the earth from the power of her revel were made rich. "

the great whore, who is sitting upon the many waters

 

What do you think ?

 

Hold fast to the rope of Allah, and be not divided

Maryah wrote: [QUOTE=Hanan] OUCH, I knew that I shouldn't have clicked on this thread ... just banged my head on the way down ... fell off the chair laughing  have another one

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 Are you Ok sis lol? Its not worth the concussion. Besides, this is from the book of Revelation and is not part of the Injeel. It was a dream of John's (Must have been really good wine!)

I was just passing by.......

By the way, I saw the original lady holding a cup in her hand, in Paris.

No comments but I think it was harsh and unnecessary.

BMZ

and i thought she was holding a touch

Angel wrote: and i thought she was holding a touch

Angel, I followed the caption under the pic. ""having a golden cup in her hand".

You really came quite close. She was holding a torch!  

Good Night, Angel.

What a crock!  Every Pentacostal refers to the "whore" mentioned in the Book of Revelations as Rome....and all Catholics!!!

We Catholics have to laugh at such ignorance.  There's no other way around this bull....!

"What do you think ?"

Thank God for good mental health specialists.

It says: " having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom"

Yes it's a torch but it could also look like a cup filled with fire.

The fire may be the "abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom".

Anyway I just said it sounds like the Statue of Liberty, as the statue represents the "Great City" of New York where the United Nations is based.

bmzsp wrote: Angel wrote: and i thought she was holding a touch Angel, I followed the caption under the pic. ""having a golden cup in her hand". You really came quite close. She was holding a torch!   Good Night, Angel.

LOL! think i should go to bed now  yes i meant torch  

"What do you think ?"

Thank God for good mental health specialists.

Absolutely, but we may have to pass the hat around get such chaps a place in the assylum.

Absolutely, but we may have to pass the hat around get such chaps a place in the assylum.

I'll be glad to donate to this worthy cause.

Sawtul Khilafah wrote: Bismillahirrahmaanerraheem   The Bible mentions a "whore" who symbolises a "great city" which is to come in the future and which will have great power and will do many evil things... It also says that the "whore" is surrounded by "abundent waters" and that she is holding "a cup".   This kinda sounds like the Statue of Liberty... Here's the prophecy:   Revelation Chapters 17 and 18: 1 And there came one of the seven messengers, who were having the seven vials, and he spake with me, saying to me, `Come, I will shew to thee the judgment of the great whore, who is sitting upon the many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth did commit whoredom; and made drunk from the wine of her whoredom were those inhabiting the earth;' 3 and he carried me away to a wilderness in the Spirit, and I saw a woman sitting upon a scarlet-coloured beast, full of names of evil-speaking, having seven heads and ten horns, 4 and the woman was arrayed with purple and scarlet-colour, and gilded with gold, and precious stone, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom, 5 and upon her forehead was a name written: `Secret, Babylon the Great, the Mother of the Whores, and the Abominations of the earth.' 6 And I saw the woman drunken from the blood of the saints, and from the blood of the witnesses of Jesus, and I did wonder -- having seen her -- with great wonder; 7 and the messenger said to me, `Wherefore didst thou wonder? I -- I will tell thee the secret of the woman and of the beast that [is] carrying her, which hath the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 `The beast that thou didst see: it was, and it is not; and it is about to come up out of the abyss, and to go away to destruction, and wonder shall those dwelling upon the earth, whose names have not been written upon the scroll of the life from the foundation of the world, beholding the beast that was, and is not, although it is. 9 `Here [is] the mind that is having wisdom; the seven heads are seven mountains, upon which the woman doth sit, 10 and there are seven kings, the five did fall, and the one is, the other did not yet come, and when he may come, it behoveth him to remain a little time; 11 and the beast that was, and is not, he also is eighth, and out of the seven he is, and to destruction he doth go away. 12 `And the ten horns that thou sawest, are ten kings, who a kingdom did not yet receive, but authority as kings the same hour do receive with the beast, 13 these have one mind, and their own power and authority to the beast they shall give over; 14 these with the Lamb shall make war, and the Lamb shall overcome them, because Lord of lords he is, and King of kings, and those with him are called, and choice, and stedfast.' 15 And he saith to me, `The waters that thou didst see, where the whore doth sit, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues;' 16 and the ten horns that thou didst see upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her in fire, 17 for God did give into their hearts to do its mind, and to make one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast till the sayings of God may be complete, 18 and the woman that thou didst see is the great city that is having reign over the kings of the land.' 1 And after these things I saw another messenger coming down out of the heaven, having great authority, and the earth was lightened from his glory, 2 and he did cry in might -- a great voice, saying, `Fall, fall did Babylon the great, and she became a habitation of demons, and a hold of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird, 3 because of the wine of the wrath of her whoredom have all the nations drunk, and the kings of the earth with her did commit whoredom, and merchants of the earth from the power of her revel were made rich. 4 And I heard another voice out of the heaven, saying, `Come forth out of her, My people, that ye may not partake with her sins, and that ye may not receive of her plagues, 5 because her sins did follow -- unto the heaven, and God did remember her unrighteousness. 6 Render to her as also she did render to you, and double to her doubles according to her works; in the cup that she did mingle mingle to her double. 7 `As much as she did glorify herself and did revel, so much torment and sorrow give to her, because in her heart she saith, I sit a queen, and a widow I am not, and sorrow I shall not see; 8 because of this, in one day, shall come her plagues, death, and sorrow, and famine; and in fire she shall be utterly burned, because strong [is] the Lord God who is judging her; 9 and weep over her, and smite themselves for her, shall the kings of the earth, who with her did commit whoredom and did revel, when they may see the smoke of her burning, 10 from afar having stood because of the fear of her torment, saying, Wo, wo, the great city! Babylon, the strong city! because in one hour did come thy judgment. 11 `And the merchants of the earth shall weep and sorrow over her, because their lading no one doth buy any more; 12 lading of gold, and silver, and precious stone, and pearl, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyne wood, and every vessel of ivory, and every vessel of most precious wood, and brass, and iron, and marble, 13 and cinnamon, and odours, and ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and cattle, and sheep, and of horses, and of chariots, and of bodies and souls of men. 14 `And the fruits of the desire of thy soul did go away from thee, and all things -- the dainty and the bright -- did go away from thee, and no more at all mayest thou find them. 15 The merchants of these things, who were made rich by her, far off shall stand because of the fear of her torment, weeping, and sorrowing, 16 and saying, Wo, wo, the great city, that was arrayed with fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and gilded in gold, and precious stone, and pearls -- because in one hour so much riches were made waste! 17 `And every shipmaster, and all the company upon the ships, and sailors, and as many as work the sea, far off stood, 18 and were crying, seeing the smoke of her burning, saying, What [city is] like to the great city? 19 and they did cast dust upon their heads, and were crying out, weeping and sorrowing, saying, Wo, wo, the great city! in which were made rich all having ships in the sea, out of her costliness -- for in one hour was she made waste. 20 `Be glad over her, O heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets, because God did judge your judgment of her!' 21 And one strong messenger did take up a stone as a great millstone, and did cast [it] to the sea, saying, `Thus with violence shall Babylon be cast, the great city, and may not be found any more at all; 22 and voice of harpers, and musicians, and pipers, and trumpeters, may not be heard at all in thee any more; and any artizan of any art may not be found at all in thee any more; and noise of a millstone may not be heard at all in thee any more; 23 and light of a lamp may not shine at all in thee any more; and voice of bridegroom and of bride may not be heard at all in thee any more; because thy merchants were the great ones of the earth, because in thy sorcery were all the nations led astray, 24 and in her blood of prophets and of saints was found, and of all those who have been slain on the earth.'     "having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and uncleanness of her whoredom" Some think this city is Babylon in Iraq, but the Bible doesnt simply say "Babylon". It says: "Secret, Babylon the Great". So it's "Babylon the Great" and this is its Secret name.  "because of the wine of the wrath of her whoredom have all the nations drunk, and the kings of the earth with her did commit whoredom, and merchants of the earth from the power of her revel were made rich. " the great whore, who is sitting upon the many waters   What do you think ?

There are many debates in the christian community about who the whore is and who babylon is and whether they are one in the same or if one represents a false religion and the other represents a nation or a city.  Or any combination thereof.  I as a christian find it funny that in Rev. 18 there is a woman described that says to herself, (babylon) "I sit as queen, and am no widow."  I often consider the statue of liberty, since she has 7 prongs on her crown, or so I hear.  But that isn't a cup in the statues hand, it's a torch.

There are many debates in the christian community about who the whore is and who babylon is and whether they are one in the same or if one represents a false religion and the other represents a nation or a city.  Or any combination thereof.  I as a christian find it funny that in Rev. 18 there is a woman described that says to herself, (babylon) "I sit as queen, and am no widow."  I often consider the statue of liberty, since she has 7 prongs on her crown, or so I hear.  But that isn't a cup in the statues hand, it's a torch.

My friend, no need to Uncover yourself as a fresh victim of our extremely interesting poster. Normally, we are quite a serious and a balanced lot here, but then you know, we all end up having someone like our Shaytaan el Khilafa

Whisper wrote: There are many debates in the christian community about who the whore is and who babylon is and whether they are one in the same or if one represents a false religion and the other represents a nation or a city.  Or any combination thereof.  I as a christian find it funny that in Rev. 18 there is a woman described that says to herself, (babylon) "I sit as queen, and am no widow."  I often consider the statue of liberty, since she has 7 prongs on her crown, or so I hear.  But that isn't a cup in the statues hand, it's a torch. My friend, no need to Uncover yourself as a fresh victim of our extremely interesting poster. Normally, we are quite a serious and a balanced lot here, but then you know, we all end up having someone like our Shaytaan el Khilafa

I'm sorry but I don't follow your comment.  I was giving my honest answer as per my typical protcol.

I was giving my honest answer as per my typical protcol.

My friend, your comment is honest. I was being apologetic about the poster of this string. When you come to know of him you will know what I mean. Go up a few posts and you will find Patty and I trying to raise a collection to get this chap into some assylum!

Whisper wrote: and you will find Patty and I trying to raise a collection to get this chap into some assylum!

Sorry Whisper but I refuse to join you and patty there as I simply cant stand mental patients who think they have had important government jobs for "centuries"... definitely split personality disorder

  Oh, Ok.  I guess I should do a little reading up.

It will make quite interesting reading, it was a sharping incident to start with, but by now, most of us genuinely pity the poor thing.

Whisper wrote:   Oh, Ok.  I guess I should do a little reading up. It will make quite interesting reading, it was a sharping incident to start with, but by now, most of us genuinely pity the poor thing.

Alhamdullillah, it is time to go to bed! Time to put this book down! lets put this thread in the humor section!

Buenas noches ya'll