�وَعَدَنا & #1585;سولُ الل
617;ـهِ r غزوةَ الهند، فإ&# 1606;ْ أدركتُ 07;ا أُنْفِق ;ْ نفسي ومالي، وإ&# 1606;ْ قُتِلْ 78;ُ كنتُ أفضلَ الش&# 1607;داء، وإنْ رجعت&# 1615; فأنا أبو هريرة الـ&# 1605;ُحَرَّرُ ;� [النسائي]

                 �the Messenger (saw) promised us the conquest of India. If I was to come across that, I will spend my soul and my wealth. If I am killed then I am among the best of martyrs, and if I return then I am Abu Huraira the freed� [Ahmad, An-Nisa'i, Al-Hakim].

                 And reported by Thawban:

�عِصابتان & #1605;ن أُمّتي أَ&# 1581;ْرَزَهُم ;ا اللّـهُ من النار: عِصابةٌ ت&# 1594;زو الهندَ، و&# 1593;ِصابةٌ ت 03;ون مع عيسى ابن مريم عليه&# 1605;ا السلام� [النسائي وأحمد]

My Dear Friend Bharatiya,

Why would you like to observe Islam from a politically baised organization's standpoint of view? Hizb ut Tarrir is a clear political organization with extremely distorted views and ofcourse they would use Islam to suit their objective. Other than that, except the first 3 statements, none of rest are part of Quran. Even the first 3 are also quoted out of context to derive the meaning that suits their political purpose. However, once these are read within their complete paragraphs in which they appear, no ambiguity is left that all verses containing order to fight against unbelievers is only and only for their oppression and persecution and not because of their unbelif. This is true not only for these few but many other verses like them in Quran as well.

Salaam To: Barataiya

The internet is a 'Religious Zoo'. So becareful what you read. I think the same applies to muslims as well.

AhmadJoyia has presented a well summarised reply.

Remember the comments from Hizd are extrapolations from a political context, the danger in which some muslims and others fall is how and under what cirsumstances, or context those statments were made and aslo are these propositions applicable to the contemporary context when dealing with muslims and others.

Example- if we adhere to Mahtma Gandhi's concept of 'Ram Raj' then encourages co-exitence. If we adhere to 'Sarvkar's' ( RSS's top-man) view then surely muslims must be absorbed within 'Sanatan Dharams' worldview.

I enjoyed reading the concet of brahmin. Not many muslims are aware of these things.

Regards

Fuhad

ZamanH wrote: I don't think there is anything specific said about the Indians in the Holy Quran.

Assalamu alaikum,

You are correct, akhi. India is never mentioned in the Holy Qur'an.

Namaskaar brother. Islam doesn't cover anything on countries. It treats the WORLD as it was created: for humans.

The Koran establishes that the Human Rights are more sacred than even the rights of Allah Kareem on us.

Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Parsis and the lot had shared the sub-continent (Bharat) in absolute harmony for over a thousand years. I happen to hold a very personal experience of that.

Then enter Jack Straw's forefathers looking for gold - in a country which produced 72% of global produce at that time. It was almost like the 70s Dubai rush!! India then was the most developed country in the entire known world.

The ENTIRE Indian community fought together to get rid of this Hang Low Sexnon menance - in 1857. The Gora saab was a wee dunbfounded. A commission was set up - in 1861 - to look into the causes of this First War of Indian Independence. This commission took 30 years to frame a plan to divide the Indians for "good governess" at the DISTRICT level.

The Mayo Plan was implemented in 1894. It resulted in 1947. Though some of your politicians were also a huge party to the PARTITION of India - fearing a viable Muslim minority in their national constituency - they agreed with the Brits to chop off the Muslims in three parts - some in India - some in Pakistan - some in Bangladesh.

It's not in your benefit. It's not in the benefit of the Pakistanis or the Bangladeshis. It just suits Gors Shahi like in their other venture - Palestine.

Let's forget about the Land. We have cried 57 years over the lands. Let's embrace each other as humans, insaan or as they say in Sanskirit; manus. And make those who have made it a habit to kill maime and bleed us cry for a change. Humanity is always above anyother loves.