Salaamu Alaykum to our forum moderators,

Please use your good judgement and ban Crass  as his/her behavior is clearly repeatedly attacking Patty on a personal level with slanderous (maybe libelous) words. This type of attack has no merit, is not part of any fruitful discussion, and is not related to our Islaamic Discussion Board in any positive way. 

People can have arguments and disagreements without making such vicious, slanderous attacks on one another.

 "I think it is pointless for Patty to blackmouth me, when she perfectly well knows that she should first deal with this enormous group of people blackmouthing her, about the sordid, unspeakable things she is allegedly told to have done. Patty is wasting her time. "

Thank you very much for your kindness, herjihad.  I appreciate it more than you will ever know.

Peace to you always!

Patty wrote: Thank you very much for your kindness, herjihad.  I appreciate it more than you will ever know. Peace to you always!

Bismillah and Salaams,

You're welcome.  It's only right and I am sure that the moderators will act when they have the time. 

The Holy Quran says that when a man attacks a woman's honor, his punishment is severe.  So the least we need to do is ban him as an eartlhy lesson that it is simply not ever allowed.

herjihad wrote: Patty wrote: Thank you very much for your kindness, herjihad.  I appreciate it more than you will ever know. Peace to you always! Bismillah and Salaams, You're welcome.  It's only right and I am sure that the moderators will act when they have the time.  The Holy Quran says that when a man attacks a woman's honor, his punishment is severe.  So the least we need to do is ban him as an eartlhy lesson that it is simply not ever allowed.

Wa alaikum asalaam:

You are so correct sister. Those of us of a generous more open nature are often accosted by the more rabid limited views of certain members. Patty, I support you and your dialogue, I find it stimulating and educational. Maybe if we could just learn to get along in this world and have some acceptance of differences and stop attacking others for their differences.

One thing I have learned is that before discerning a person is to attempt to gauge their cultural and educational background. I have been exposed to many cultures and countries and  can see where someone usually is coming from from a wholistic standpoint. That is what nurses do, assess.

Some of those that call for unity cause more discord because of their limited knowledge of another culture or misunderstanding of another's cultural values.

That is the core in my belief of Islam, tolerance of those that are different and abhorrence of those who trod or cause human abuse or pain. I am for human rights,  Our Prophet (pbuh) set us the example in his daily life every day of his life!! By his marriages, kindness to the disenfranchised, he preached  the message of peace and unity. Aren't we to follow his example?

I am very humbled by your support and kind words, Maryah.  It is difficult to see such things posted about you, especially when you have no way to defend yourself, and even more so when you alone know the poster is not telling the truth.  I do feel most people here have known me for a long time, and even if my opinions are not accepted or believed, my reputation has never been in question.

May God touch crasss and change his heart.

Peace to you, Maryah.

You are very sweet, Duende.  Many times we have not agreed on certain issues, but I have always respected you personally.  One of the primary rules here, I think, is the one concerning respect.  I feel that crasss has been far beyond disrespectful in his comments about me and my faith.  But, you know what?  God never said life would be easy, or all roses.  The Bible says, "it rains on the just and the unjust alike".....I think I was struck with a torrential downpour from crasss.

I did notify an Administrator when crasss first began to attack me personally, but I have not heard anything back yet.  It's really alright.  You know the old saying, "if you give someone enough rope, they'll hang themselves." 

Thank you very much for such kindness, Duende!  And all the best to you and yours always.

Hi Patty

Due to the limited time I have online, I don�t get a chance to read much of what is posted in the other sections.

From one sister to another here�s my

((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))) to you.

May you have a good day

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu Alaikum,

When you publicly demonstrate this way that such and such people should be banned, you are breaking the rules yourself. The best way would be to get your message across by using the "report button," so as to bring the matter to the attention of moderators/ administrators.

Think for a while. What if what you are saying is wrong? What if someone else alleges you in this manner? In that case you have already damaged the reputation of someone in a public domain. Would you or anyone want that for themselves?

There is no point to commit another wrong to fix one at hand. Isn't it?

We are also taking the necessary measures so please be patient with us.

Wassalam