His Khutba had a motive.....

Rather than discuss both sides of Jihad he greatly politicized his speech with religious rhetoric to fire up the listeners. It easy to wallow in self-victimization by discussing how bad America, Britain, and Zionism (as if those are the only elements behind Muslim oppression) are and incite hatred for other countries and get young dumb males to kill for Allah. True Jihad, in my opinion is the spiritual battle one has with oneself. The devil [or Satan] does not need to use man against man Satan can use man against himself. Unfortunately we focus so much on hating America we forgot all about Satan. No wonder Satan will lead so many astray.

 What is written above by Israfil seems to be correct. It is easy to incite the young people for Jihad. But Jihad must have some conditions too. If they are not fulfilled then there is no Jihad.

The greater Jihad is against one's lower self (Nafs e Ammara) which can always be carried out.

 I would like to know where were these violent speakers when things were going down the drain. Why they did not guide the people and why they did not speak the truth long time before. It is no use now, crying over spilt milk.

 But if any one now will repent and truely return to Allah then Allah is  The Forgiving and The Merciful.

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaykum

First thing it is taken from a khutba which is originaly going to be longer than this two minute clip. It takes you straight into when the imam is talking about jihad and specific form of jihad, you dont know exactly what he was saying before that to call this extreme. The second part is some what true because if you following a sharia that came fourteen hundered years ago people persume you to be backward which is never the case.

Islam has its concept of Jihad/Qital which is allowed in specific circumstances. Now to completely deny that or let some one twist into some thing else is wrong.

wassalam

fatima wrote: Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaykum First thing it is taken from a khutba which is originaly going to be longer than this two minute clip. It takes you straight into when the imam is talking about jihad and specific form of jihad, you dont know exactly what he was saying before that to call this extreme. The second part is some what true because if you following a sharia that came fourteen hundered years ago people persume you to be backward which is never the case. Islam has its concept of Jihad/Qital which is allowed in specific circumstances. Now to completely deny that or let some one twist into some thing else is wrong. wassalam

This is the problem with videos such as these. Those ignorant of Islamic teachings will interpret that as hostile religious rhetoric and attribute that to Islamic practice.

Israfil wrote: His Khutba had a motive..... Rather than discuss both sides of Jihad he greatly politicized his speech with religious rhetoric to fire up the listeners. It easy to wallow in self-victimization by discussing how bad America, Britain, and Zionism (as if those are the only elements behind Muslim oppression) are and incite hatred for other countries and get young dumb males to kill for Allah. True Jihad, in my opinion is the spiritual battle one has with oneself. The devil [or Satan] does not need to use man against man Satan can use man against himself. Unfortunately we focus so much on hating America we forgot all about Satan. No wonder Satan will lead so many astray.

Self victamization? You should study gloablization The American and British Governments, Zionsim, freemasonary, etc are enemys of Islam (and im not saying that we dont have any black sheep in are midst that need to be taken care of either but thats not the biggest issue). Then we have to look at like this, this is a Khutba that was delivered in Baghdad if we were going threw the same situations in the west they are going through over there are khutbas probably wouldnt be any different (But Allah knows best). Theres Political agendas,war profiteers and a Zionist filtered media this is the reason Islam is being propagated. Islam is a Huge threat to the way there trying to govern things not because Islam is Violent but for what it teaches. Muslims are forbiden to pay and accept Rib'a (Intrest) which is a huge threat to the bank systems which are built upon a system of Intrest, Islam is also a threat to this so called Democracy because Muslims recognize that the Shari'a is what should Govern all of Man's affairs. Islam is also much more than a relgion it's a complete way of Life that can not be contained by such a materialistic consumer based society. Islam is a threat to these poison peddlers and thats basically what it comes down to. now as you say "True Jihad, in my opinion is the spiritual battle one has with oneself" This is agreeable but to say "The Devil does not need to use man against man satan can use man against himself" This has a little truth to it as well but lets look into the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw).

Surah 2: 216. Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

Surah 3: 185. Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.

Surah 2:41. And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.

  Book 041, Number 6981:

Book 041, Number 6982:

Book 041, Number 6983:

Book 041, Number 6984:

Book 041, Number 6985:

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I don't agree with the video. I'd very much like to listen to a Khutba about Jihad, but I seriously don't want to listen to an old guy on the podium talking about fighting the infidel. I'd rather live with men than kill them, that is my motto. Now, if someone is an immediate threat to me and my family and is intentionally trying to kill me I'll do whatever is necessary to defend them. But there is a difference in the kind of mentality we carry with Jihad today than 200 years ago.

Jihad the word itself is used quite loosely and especially amongst the greater population of Muslims who don't even have a decent education much less can understand the logic behind the divine words. You disagree with me regarding the devil tricking man to turn on himself, well, we can see the results in Iraq with Muslims fighting against Muslims. You can' blame the U.S for that. Nobody told anyone to load a rifle and empty a whole round into their neighbor. there is a thing called dialogue that I think people avoid. Allahuakbar501, you sound like you have a motive bro. The Imam as I have seen, greatly politicized his speech. we need to focus more on empowering ourselves with knowledge rather focus on who is our enemy.

Our enemy is Satan....Now you say that is little truth then obviously you are looking at the "spititual world" with blinders on.

Assalamu alaikum how ever you wanna look at it Brother but ive read threw the major signs of the last day and there are going to be many jihads for the sake of Allah and Allah's will, will always come to pass and men will be fighting men wether you like it or not this is the reality but since no wars have affected you personally and me either for that matter we have no idea what these brothers in the east are feeling. but the question is do you wanna be apart of one-third of the army that will flee from the battlefield or do you wanna be apart of the two-third who will stay and fight? my motive is simple to tell Muslims not be so soft that is it. Satan is are open enemy and may Allah protect us from him but what Allah has willed is clear...Salam

I am swearing you by your God.

What is the meaning of jihad? tell me what jihad is?
Oh nation of Muhammad, oh muslims against whom do we fight jihad? Do we fight against stones? Do we fight against water?
Or do we fight against infidels? (the kuffars = rejecters)
What is the purpose Allah wanted which he clarified:
"Powerful against the infidels" (Kafirin = the rejecters).

But the situation is reversed, the theory is overturned:
A believer kills a believer. A muslim kills a muslim and glorifies the infidel (kafir), and gives him an opportunity.

Now the infidels (Al kuffar) move freely in the Arabian peninsula,
and the muslims find it difficult to fulfil the commandment of
pilgrimage.

If today a muslim enters any country, they say: "he is a terrorist,
he is a fanatic, he is an extremist". Just because he is a monotheistic believer (muslim).

In contrast, someone who dances, amuse himself and commits sins - is pampered and loved.

What is the meaning of this standard? This is the standard of kafirin.

We judge by the standards of shari'a, be a believer in Allah, be a jihad
warrior for the sake of Allah. Do not fear (in your struggle), for Allah the reprimands of those who look for flaws. Do you know who those do not fear are? Those who convey the message of Allah.

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Just over 2 minutes for the first clip. I did not watch the rest as my slow connection. But, it was nice and true speech packed in just two minutes.

He first said "do you know what Jihad is?" Instead of discussing both aspects of Jihad he later politicizes his argument. It's all political BS to fire up the young dumb men who will get annihilated by the U.S military. I'm sorry I just find Imam like that dumb because if I'm listening to a Khutba, I'd rather be spiritually enlightened than discuss my enemy across the Arabian Penninsula. Whatever happened to God's will? If they all die for whatever reason than so be it but I'd rather lose my life learning about Islam than learning about why everyone thinks I'm a terrorist. Obviously this guy doesn't read the news. Not every muslim is labeled a terrorist. I know plenty Muslims that travel freely without hassel.

Unfortunately, the law is ethnically biased because if you "look" a certain way or if your name is similar to that on the terrorist watch list you will be harrassed. But its easy for an Imam to be a victim of this especially one not from the West and use this experience as a reference (and a tool) to fire up the masses to hate. To me, I don't see any good in a man who wants to discuss where his enemy is. Again, nobody sees my point on Satan. We are not Adam where we can outthink Satan, this time it is us and I believe that we are constantly being outdone everyday. Knowledge leads all out of oppression but we must be willing to obtain it.

"Knowledge leads all out of oppression but we must be willing to obtain it" Beautifully said brother. but you have to know yourself as well as your enemy.

If you dont know your enemy and study your enemy how will you be able to defend yourself and your beliefs in the time of war or dialogue?

 Dear Allahuakbar501, Please be away from all politics. Those maulvis are giving sermons for Jihad to young people but they themselves or their children do not go in the field for Jihad.

 There are people suffering very badly in some Muslim countries and that hurts us very much. But is that the result of just one day>>> No. It is the result of bad thinking of many years even centuries. If you look back, say Afghanistan for example, what did the people do there?? Was there any democracy??? Was there any free speech allowed there?? If not then why??? And where were these fiery speakers in those days.

 The problem in Makkah was that people did not allow free speech. They were worshipping the idols. When holy prophet arrived and started preaching, they opposed him and told him to keep quiet. The prophet said, O My people, you say what you want to say and let me say what I want to say. But the pagans replied, "We will say whatever we like but we will not let you say what you want to say". That was the problem at the root.

 The struggle continued until final victory of the prophet s.a.w.s. Then every one, all religions, could say decently what they liked. There was complete freedom of speech. You Allahuakbar501 please tell me, is there such a freedom in S. Arabia. or in any other Muslim country?? You have all the troubles at home and you want to go out and fight the enemies. What for??

 Please don't mind what I have said. These maulvis do try to prove that the mission of the prophet s.a.w.s. was political or partly political. Far from that. Absolutely not like that. It was not like that but his enemies made it political. So he had to come out in the field.

 Please have a greater, wider outlook. Some are deliviering sermons. Others are writing books. I know one great (very great) maulvi who wrote that Islam was spread by sword. Astaghfir u Allah.

You Allahuakbar501 please tell me, is there such a freedom in S. Arabia. or in any other Muslim country?? You have all the troubles at home and you want to go out and fight the enemies. What for??

well first we have to look at what the word freedom really means the word freedom the way i see it means the condition of being free; the power to act or speak or think without externally imposed restraint; immunity from an obligation or duty.

There is no freedom if there is laws so theres no such thing as freedom even in the U.S. either but this so called democracy that we live in is a joke i can get into more of my opinions about that but answer me this how does democracy/U.S. system government compare to the Shari'a? Because a Muslim country isnt a Muslim country unless it follows the laws completely according to Qur'an and Sunnah it may be a Country filled with Muslims but that doesnt means its a Muslim country like wise because America is predominately filled with Christians it doesnt make America a Christian Country. As far as Fighting the Enemies it can be done with the Sword of the Intellect and the sword of steel if thats what it comes down to.

I know that we have plenty of troubles in are midst here in the west so i believe its obligatory to speak the Haqq even to those who want to plug their ears.

"others are writing books" well here is one i think you should read http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ushaaq-RevisedEdition.pdf - http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf

"some are delivering sermons" well here is a lecture you should listen to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qi5byD0V7Q - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qi5byD0V7Q

If you read that book and listen to that lecture on the book constants on the path of jihad on youtube by Imam Anwar Al Awaki Inshaa'Allah reflect on them then come back and give me your stand point like ive stated im not here to cause Fitnah im here to build my knowledge in the deen and help spread it and spread what i already know Inshaa'Allah...Wassalam

 Thanks for the sites. I will check. And may you enjoy learning the truth. Keep trying.  I had pointed out that the world is a global village now. We are not worried about less or more freedom in the US. We are to see what we are doing. Are we believing in the right thing or wrong thing. Do we abuse every good thing or are we patient in listening. There are all sorts of people here. Many sects, some are far away from the right path.

 I definitely believe that there cannot be a fight for the religion with sword or bomb, to protect the religion or to spread it. That is definite. But if any one wants to do Jihad by preaching peacefully then I would go for that. That should be the right of every one of every religion as long as they do not use foul language and as long as others do not act like an enemy of Islam.

 So my first priority would be the peaceful preaching (Some people call it Dawah). The second priority is to listen to all peacefully.

 I could ask you a simple question. Do you believe that Islam was spread by sword?? I hope you do not mind my asking.

 Sorry,  I tried but I could not read anything because it needed special program to see it. But I found it was about wars. So I was not interested. I have informed you that I could not read that / visit those sites.

 It is better that you tell something from yourself instead of referring me to some one else. You may learn from that fellow writer / speaker and after that you can teach me yourself. Thanks.

Do you believe that Islam was spread by sword?? NO BUT I BELIEVE iSLAM WAS PROTECTED BY THE SWORD AND IN SOME CASES iSLAM WAS SPREAD BY THE SWORD LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT THE OTTOMANS BUT IN ALOT OTHER CASES IT WAS SPREAD THREW DAWAH LIKE IN AFRICA, ASIA ETC.

"It is better that you tell something from yourself instead of referring me to some one else." The reason i would refer you to someone else is because Jihad is a big subject that many Muslims seem to Ignore and there is a lot of false information going around so i would like you to understand the truth of the matter as best as possible.

This first link is to a book called book of jihad by Ibn-Nuhass

http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf - http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf

dont avoid it!! read it then it will become clear to you its not about wars it will prove to you that Jihad is a duty upon the Ummah that many of you dont like to believe so you avoid it.

"You may learn from that fellow writer / speaker and after that you can teach me yourself." like i said its best to point you in the direction where I learnt about jihad this a big subject that is worthy of many books and lectures.

"But I found it was about wars. So I was not interested." Surah 2: 216. Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

Brother A 501

Don't waste your time with these self defeatist liberals. They divorced real Jihad after 9/11 due to uncle Sam fear. How do you exoect from law enforecement brother to say Jihad is OK!!!. You shall not expect from them nothing but to be piece mouth of Bush and his neo Jewish junta. Didn't you see he said, the enemy is satan only. What a fiqih?.

I know-because of fear- many want to say, Jihad is cleaning your teeth, picking up your trash on time, watching football game in your house, eating cholestrol free food, going school on time, working hard to get more greenback, Kissing the feet of Bushies and last but not least singing kumbayaa business with American flag waivers all the time.....LOL

Meanwhile, I really enjoyed by Fatima stand. Good to you sister.I see your goodness in this serious chapter. Stay on .........

Abu Mujahid

"Don't waste your time with these self defeatist liberals. They divorced real Jihad after 9/11 due to uncle Sam fear." well i wouldnt have put it so bluntly but i see what you are saying.

"I know-because of fear- many want to say, Jihad is cleaning your teeth, picking up your trash on time, watch you football game in your house, eating cholerstral free food, going school on time, working hard to get more greenback, Kissing the ffeet of Bushies and last but not least singing kumbayaa business with American flag waivers all the time"

501.

Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world. I choose NOT to focus on "where my enemy is" especially if the discussion of "where my enemy is" is riddled with political B.S. All I have to say is, if you wish to fight for allah's religion be the good soldier and join Al-Qaeda or one of the resistance groups and fight. But best be sure before you fight, you pick a nice coffin. I'm not a self-defeatist I'm a realist. I think tis st**id for some old guy on a podium to discuss politics when he should b discussing how to better oneself in Islam. And no, I will not watch more Youtube bullcrap. Leave that to the idiots Crass and Abu the "poo poo"

"Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world" that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy we should all fight for an Islamic state anything other than Shari'a is Unjust, i have given you the inconvient truth and by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist etc but we have to lay down the true law of the land and whoever gets in the way of that is unjust this is the reality many muslims dont want to face, either your a Muslim of the pen or of the sword if your not either of those then your not a Mujaahideen. I do want to fight but the situation im in doesnt lead me to do so, other wise I would but i will support the Mujaahideen with my Wealth and Prayers.

"But best be sure before you fight, you pick a nice coffin." Every soul shall taste death I rather die as shaheed or a scholar rather than anything else.

I pray that the Muslim ummah will put their trust in Allah and do what Allah has commanded read Qur'an and Sunnah and the link to the book I put up regarding these matters.

Asalamu alaikum rhmatullahi wa baraktu

 We had read that you are new convert. Or am I wrong? Please do not hurry up for the fight. Do not go near the sword. There is no order to fight any one. You should make yourself perfect beofre you try to reform the others.

 There is not to be any fight for the sake of religion now. There was never any fight for the religion only in the past too. Only when Muslim state was attacked then the people went to repel the attack.

 You cannot fight. You have not the means. There are definite conditions for Jihad with the sword. Please study them first. Then see if the conditions exist. Also see if Muslims are united or in sectarian turmoil. You are the master of your will power. You can decide and go ahead but do not forget to buy a sword today.

501 you said:

'Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world'

-Israfil

 "that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy we should all fight for an Islamic state anything other than Shari'a"

-501

501 you're a new convert and you're talking like this? Scary.

by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist

Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right?

I do want to fight but the situation im in doesnt lead me to do so, other wise I would but i will support the Mujaahideen with my Wealth and Prayers.

You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. I've been a Muslim for years and have studied some Islamic law. You're focusing on a minute aspect of Jihad and making it the greater thing. You really have no understanding of Jihad. But if you're dumb enough to fight whoever (in this case I assume the West) then pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force. Yes every soul will taste death but I'm not dumb enough to die because I think I know what true Jihad is.

We don't even have an Islamic State nor a Caliph to declare a Jihad yet you want to fight and act like you know what it is. Pitiful. You're acting like you know what Islamic law is and you don't.

You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. Here lets all study the Conditions of Jihad

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhar i/052.sbt.html

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim /019.smt.html

http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ushaaq-RevisedEdition.pdf - http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf

 We had read that you are new convert. Or am I wrong? Please do not hurry up for the fight. Do not go near the sword. There is no order to fight any one. You should make yourself perfect beofre you try to reform the others." Yes i recently reverted to Islam,

"Please do not hurry up for the fight" Im fighting Already against my Nafs.

There is no order to fight any one" Maybe not at your Masjid but have we forgotten about our brothers in Chechnya, Nigera, Kashmir, Somalia, Afganistan, Phillipines, Turkey, Kosovo, Iraq, Palestine, etc etc. do we just close our eyes and pretend that nothing is happening to our Brothers and Sisters around the Globe, do we just worry about Muslims in America?

You should make yourself perfect before you try to reform others? No one is Perfect except Allah and in order to reform others an Islamic state must be established.

 "But if you're dumb enough to fight whoever (in this case I assume the West) then pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." The problem is not on Western fronts but it is the West and other Governments in the east causing them

"pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." Who exactly are you rooting for?

by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist

Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right? Most definitely

"We don't even have an Islamic State nor a Caliph to declare a Jihad yet you want to fight and act like you know what it is. Pitiful. You're acting like you know what Islamic law is and you don't." Thats exactly why we should fight for an Islamic state because we dont have one- now that is pitiful. I know about Islamic Law I know that it is the best solution to our problems with crime if you have seen things i have seen you would understand why i think its so vital to establish it.

'Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world' 'that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy'

Israfil do you believe in the Major signs of the Last day? and if so who laid them out Allah's Messanger(saw) or Shaytan's Messanger?

May Allah bless both of you in this life and in the hereafter and that you are granted Jannah and May Allah keep you on the straight path with your Iman strong and never weak.

Israfil wrote:

"Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right?"

I like your kumbaya business!!!. Sure your law enforecment manual training is doing its magic work. But how many more lies you want to caugh up under sheer ignorance!!!  Do you see how you want to rewrite Islam?

Just to ask you simple questions. Done Iraq/Aghanistan war? if not, are you willing to go the fight and shed muslim blood? By now you should be in selective service reserve?

Waiting your answer.

Abu Mujahid

"You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. I've been a Muslim for years and have studied some Islamic law. You're focusing on a minute aspect of Jihad and making it the greater thing. You really have no understanding of Jihad."

Please enlighten me with your knowledge on Jihad if what you say is truthful?

But further more everything you put down i want it backed by Qur'an and Sunnah, because I dont think you know what i do happen to know, so please avoid being arrogant i dont want to step on anyones toes or call anyone names lets just discuss this topic

Oh and not to be antagonistic but i still want these questions answered.

do you wanna be apart of one-third of the army that will flee from the battlefield or do you wanna be apart of the two-third who will stay and fight?

If you dont know your enemy and study your enemy how will you be able to defend yourself and your beliefs in the time of war or dialogue?

this so called democracy that we live in is a joke i can get into more of my opinions about that but answer me this how does democracy/U.S. system government compare to the Shari'a?

"pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." Who exactly are you rooting for?

crasss wrote: One American teenager out of two has an incurable sexually transmitted disease.

Running out of reality?  Only 25% get infected and most of it is curable with antibiotics. 

The middle east seems no better.  Nor, South East Asia which included Indonesia.

ummm no disrespect to any of you but if you wanna talk about H.I.V. an other diseases please start a new thread. or stick to the subject/questions already brought up.

"You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. I've been a Muslim for years and have studied some Islamic law. You're focusing on a minute aspect of Jihad and making it the greater thing. You really have no understanding of Jihad."

Please enlighten me with your knowledge on Jihad if what you say is truthful?(But I want it all backed by Qur'an and Sunnah)

 AA501, you have read some replies. Perhaps you are not satisfied. Please do not listen to any one who is out to nullify any Hadith on the basis of weak link. There are two ways of testing any Hadith. One is the Rawaait (The chain of narrations) and the other is the Darait (The authenticity, the material, the information in that Hadith). Here in this case, the specialists are ignoring this all important Hadith on the basis that one link in narration is weak. That is not a good way.

 Many do thattype of thing. Rest assured that Hadith is correct. There is nothing against the meaning of that Hadith in the Quran and Sunnah. So do not reject it.

 Also, do not be upset about political turmoil. Every people and country have their leaders. They follow them and sometime due to wrong policy decisions, they suffer very much and they are attacked too. Muslims are suffering every where, nearly in every country. That is because of too much love of politics. Our religion is not for politics. It is more spiritual.

Of course when people are attacked and driven out of their houses, we feel very sorry for them. But whatcan we do except to pray for their guidance and deliverance. Also remember that Allah does not change the state of a people unless they change themselves. A change at the heart is first required.

Jihad with sword has been misrepresented by many a great Ulema. They even went as far as to prove that Islam was spread by sword. How bad !!! There is no compulsion in religion. No a single person has ver been converted by use of force. When oppressed people were liberated, they of their free will chose to become Muslims. The libertion was also not done illegally. Only when the poor Muslim unarmed preachers were attackd and killed, then notice was given to that government to behave or be ready for war. That was alsoJihad to uphold liberty of faith.

 Jihad with the sword has many conditions. There must be a lawfully established government with Good Muslim leaders working under divine laws in their country and they will then decide whether to go ahead with Jihad against any repressor or not. Have you any such country or Government in mind now??? On the surface of the earth?? Add to that the rampant misbehaviour and sects amongst Muslims and disunity. Then please decide about a Jihad with the sword.

I personally believe that Jihad with the sword is not valid in these times. Any one who will plan a fight for the religion will meet utter defeat. But it is alright for the people to fight for theor country, their homeland. But they should not call it Jihad. Thanks.

The Hadith is truly weak if not false as stated brother face the facts i have also read this in other places as well like in the short book "The Reality of Sufism in light of Qur'an and Sunnah" By Muhammad al-Madhkhalee where he states this about sufis "Likewise they have removed the spirit of jihad, which is to fight in the way of Allah, with what they claim to be the greater jihaad, i.e. striving against ones own soul (Jihaadun-nafs). They base this upon the saying: "We have returned from the lesser Jihaad to the greater jihaad: striving against ones own soul." Whereas this is a baseless hadeeth and has provided the opporunity in the previous two centuries for colonialist powers to occupy most of the Muslim lands," but let us look at another hadith

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 43:

 Jihad with the sword is valid but it has many conditions that there should be some one to lead the Jihad. Also, some one should have attacked the practicing Muslims who were enjoining prayers and Zakat and Hajj etc. Not to fight just against the occupiers of land. That is not Jihad. Is there any place in the world where the practicing Muslims attacked. Do not name Afghanistan etc. please. That is a very involved and controversial matter.

If you go fighting and occupy the others land, that will not be Jihad at all. Please try to see the situation now that people of all nationalities are living in all countries. Whom you will fight and why?? Just answer me and name the countries and the real reason.

If Jihad is valid now then it was valid 500 years before also. Why the Muslims of that time were sleeping and did not build consensus and technology and weapons. Why their rulers were enjoying with lady singers and dancers. Where were the supporters of Jihad at that time. Why they did not carry out the Jihad against their own bad leaders???

 Now it is too  late. If Muslim people are suffering in some countires then that is also because they did not listen to their own men of advice and misbehaved with super leaders. My friend, your enemies are now sitting within you. Can you go out and fight the outside enemy???

 Just forget about the type of Jihad that was done by the people in Afghanistan and Iran. Try to preach something. That would be better. Follow the good way yourself and lead others towards goodness. Clean your own home. The prophet s.a.w.s. had informed all about such bad times of the Ummah. Have you read anything about that ???