Not sure whether anyone cares, and most.likely people don't, but I have been in and out here due to some family stuff going on. Although my absence has been apparent, I have been watching the threads and some interesting stuff going on.

However I have been participating on another website which is really interesting. I will say that the reason other than my family, I have been absent is unfortunately due to the depressing threads going around. I do feel like I have learned but then I haven't. Too many threads in general discussion on the victimization of one group of people, then threads on antagonizing a country. It seems to me that these days Islamicity.com has turned into more of a complaint/rant forum than an environment where I can learn. I am sure I am the only one that feels this say. In comparison to the other forum, there are muslims and many don't get easily offended by criticism and I think that is key here. I understand the difference between someone sincerely critiquing the faith, and someone intentionally antagonizong the faith.

I can certainly hope one day some of the members here can rise about their own sensitivity and dishes the faith without feeling as if their faith is under attack. Because some people do in fact question religion.

Gibbs, thanks for sharing this. Well, sometimes I feel the same, but I keep telling myself: never lose your hope. We have to realize that there's a lot of frustration in the Muslim world. After 911 too many Western people have unfairly accused Muslims all over the world to be followers of an intolerant religion. Such unfairness must hurt a lot. Stereotyping is so wrong. And this goes both ways. It's also unfair to accuse Christians and agnostics and atheists of being decadent ruthless capitalists. There's a lot of unnecessary cynicism and bitterness shown by some members of Islamicity.

It's very difficult to form new mental habits. One important mental habit to me is to see other people as human beings first. Which includes all the participants of this forum. Religion should never become an obsession. It is dangerous to divide people into Muslims and non-Muslims, into Christians and non-Christians, into believers and non-believers. Instead we should try to become friends with people who desire peace and mutual respect and understanding.

Hope to meet you again soon.



Edited by Matt Browne - 28 March 2011 at 7:51am

Gibbs wrote: Not sure whether anyone cares, and most.likely people don't, but I have been in and out here due to some family stuff going on. Although my absence has been apparent, I have been watching the threads and some interesting stuff going on.

I did check and took notice! After all it was more time spent here with you than lots of other people!

However I have been participating on another website which is really interesting.

And the other forum is..............?

I will say that the reason other than my family, I have been absent is unfortunately due to the depressing threads going around.

The forum is not immune to the happenings on the ground around the world! As long as it is not really personal; it is still internet wrangling!
 

I do feel like I have learned but then I haven't. Too many threads in general discussion on the victimization of one group of people, then threads on antagonizing a country. It seems to me that these days Islamicity.com has turned into more of a complaint/rant forum than an environment where I can learn. I am sure I am the only one that feels this say.

That is why it called general where you can generalize things and blow the steam off, nothing serious just rant at familiar place! When it comes to learning there comes a time someone has be a coach in all things worthwhile, I think that is the American way!
The true learning starts when the human becomes a seeker of spiritual light if at all desired to vanquish the darkness within soul...

 

In comparison to the other forum, there are muslims and many don't get easily offended by criticism and I think that is key here. I understand the difference between someone sincerely critiquing the faith, and someone intentionally antagonizong the faith. I can certainly hope one day some of the members here can rise about their own sensitivity and dishes the faith without feeling as if their faith is under attack. Because some people do in fact question religion.

There is "section for non Muslims" where non religious people question all they want!
Talk about faith under attack I think if the constitution and civil rights were not legislated the Muzlums would be really SOL!
Did you see the true oppression?

CNN Unwelcome: Muslims Next Door Soledad O'Brien

Edited by Sign*Reader - 29 March 2011 at 8:11am

Gibbs wrote: Matt I understand but I came here to learn not read how horrible the United States and Jews are. Its always a conspiracy, always someone roses fault and it seems there is no responsibility upon the individual. In this other forum there are muslims who have different views yet they understand accountability. Here, Islamicity.com if some muslim commits hineous act, its Mossad or some plot. All I see is American this, Britain that, all things western are bad and all that takes away from me learning

Let me add my two cents United States and Jews were not synonymous unless they have become so! I don't know what you meant by roses?
United States is great country cuz it is with laws vis-a-vis lot of other lawlessness! It will be that way till she switches places!
You brought a great point accountability, would you please spend a dollar and find "Inside Job" from the RED BOX (or go online) and then  we can discuss all about accountability! It will blow your mind talk about it!

 I have mentioned zillion times that Muzlums are coming out of their slavery in fits and starts, it will take time for them to evolve back to be real Muslims; ...There is a difference a free man committing crime and slave doing that! The murderers get reprieve from the capital punishment in courts for childhood abuse quite often!  You need to think and ask why the newscasters or others talkers pronounce "The Muzlum" you know it is variation meaning in their language "Oppressed"  !LOL
Recently things in ME have started to change unexpectedly! You can see just can't take Brits and US away from the scene even when they are broke! We are told the Muslims will go through trials and tribulations just as the Israelite did! So I say the Muzlums need to buckle up for the ride!
And in the spare time spend some time reading late Joe Bageant's and see what has gone down http://coldtype.net/Assets.04/Essays.04/Kingdom.pdf


Edited by Sign*Reader - 28 March 2011 at 11:37pm