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 Topic: Does the New Testament teach that Jesus ?Posted: 16 April 2005 at 4:38am |
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Does the New Testament teach that Jesus is God? Would anyone like to have a go at this? Edited by rbaitz |
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 5:28am |
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Yes, just like a cup of seawater is the ocean. If you take a cup of water
from the sea and place it on the beach it is 100% seawater. But it is not a ocean. Jesus is God, but God is more than just Jesus. DavidC |
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 6:45am |
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I have studied the New Testement out of curiousity as a Muslim to discover similaraties between Islam and Christianity.. however my search was to understand what my husband's old religion was about..
I have not come accross one verse in the Bible where Our Prophet Jesus PBUH claimed that he is the Son of God. Man has made this myth up by distorting God's true words. Salams |
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 6:57am |
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The first 2 commandment out of the 10 listed in the Bible are the following, and yet you see Christains & many other religions going against it:
(1) �You shall have no other gods before me.� This command is against worshipping any god other than the one true God. All other gods are false gods.
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 7:01am |
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David C said: Jesus is God, but God is more than just Jesus.
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 7:20am |
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The following is according to the BIBLE>>> Question: "Is Jesus God? Did Jesus ever claim to be God?"
Answer: * Jesus is never recorded in the Bible as saying the exact words, �I am God.� That does not mean He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus� words in John 10:30, �I and the Father are one.� At first glance, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. However, look at the Jews� reaction to His statement, �We are not stoning you for any of these, replied the Jews, but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God� (John 10:33). The Jews understood Jesus� statement to be a claim to be God. In the following verses Jesus never corrects the Jews by saying, �I did not claim to be God.� That indicates Jesus was truly saying He was God by declaring, * �I and the Father are one� (John 10:30). John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, I tell you the truth, Jesus answered, before Abraham was born, I am!� Again, in response, the Jews take up stones in an attempt to stone Jesus (John 8:59). Why would the Jews want to stone Jesus if He hadn�t said something they believed to be blasphemous, namely, a claim to be God? (Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html) * Supporting my (IslamicGirl's) post which was
John 1:1 says that �the Word was God.� John 1:14 says that �the Word became flesh.� This clearly indicates that Jesus is God in the flesh. Thomas the disciple declared to Jesus, �My Lord and my God� (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. In Revelation, an angel instructed the Apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9,17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. Although He never commands people to worship Him, He never discourages it either. If Jesus was not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation had. There are many other verses and passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus� deity. The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2). Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. (Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html) |
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 8:31am |
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>>... The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that if He is
not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the whole world...<< The word is atonement, not penalty. At-one-ment, as explained by Abelard. It refers the reunion of God and Man. The "penalty" or "price" is a common misunderstanding even among Christians. DavidC |
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Posted: 16 April 2005 at 10:32am |
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Hello and thank you for posting. To keep this post within the topic please refrain from deviating from the topic. Again the topic is, "Does the New Testament teach Jesus is God?" To be honest to the biblical text let us not place our own ideas upon the text but let the scriptures speak for themselves. This is a good application when reading anything. Before we continue please know Christianity like Islam is a monothiest religion, we believe there is only one God. Now here are a few passages from the Bible pertaining to Jesus. John 1:1- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God." When is this beginning? This beginning is before the creation of the world because in verse 3 it talks about creation. Well who is the "Word"? John 1:14 tells us, "And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." So Jesus is the Word who was with God before the creation. This Word is also declared, "the Word was God" in John 1:1. This is not a disgussion on the Trinity so lets not go there right now. However the Bible tells us Jesus is God. Edited by rbaitz |
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