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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:

Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


How do people think it is ok to call another person's belief's 'rubbish'?Would it be ok for other people to call your beliefs rubbish?I think there is nothing wrong with presenting differing viewpoints but respect for others should be paramount.asalaam.


Read the reply of bro Islamispeace for crying out loud.

Greetings Abu Loren,

Islamispeace's response is appropriate.  He shares his beliefs, and has tried to guide according to his beliefs, without being offensive and insulting to Muslim75 and his beliefs.
This is the way to seek truth... and harmony too. Smile
Muslim75's beliefs seem to do no harm to anybody, if he wants to believe in them.  No need to call them rubbish.  The Creator will decide if he wishes to accept Muslim75's form of devotion.  The Creator will decide if he has a pure heart.

Peace and blessings to you,
CH

[edit:  Oops, maybe I spoke too soon.  As I was typing, a new response has appeared by islamispeace.]
[edit 2:  As I am re-reading I see that islamispeace did also resort to insults even in his prior post.  I thought his last paragraph appropriate, in his prior post.]

I see no reason to ever be insulting.


And I see no reason to care what you think.  Oops, sorry!  Was I being "insulting"?  Wink

I don't know who put you on the judgment seat.  If you have nothing to add to the discussion (why should you since it is a thread that concerns Muslims, not Christians???), then stay out of it and keep your advice to yourself.  You are not the moderator of a presidential debate. LOL  

Edit - I see "caringheart" amended her post, but I still stand by my post.  You have no reason to even interject in this discussion because it doesn't even concern you.  No one made you the moderator of this thread.
 
"Muslim75" has spent most of his time misquoting the Quran and Sunnah, and when he is confronted, he simply makes repetitious statements and avoids directly responding to any criticism. 


Edited by islamispeace - 28 September 2014 at 12:00pm
Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Originally posted by Abu Loren Abu Loren wrote:

Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


How do people think it is ok to call another person's belief's 'rubbish'?Would it be ok for other people to call your beliefs rubbish?I think there is nothing wrong with presenting differing viewpoints but respect for others should be paramount.asalaam.


Read the reply of bro Islamispeace for crying out loud.

Greetings Abu Loren,

Islamispeace's response is appropriate.  He shares his beliefs, and has tried to guide according to his beliefs, without being offensive and insulting to Muslim75 and his beliefs.
This is the way to seek truth... and harmony too. Smile
Muslim75's beliefs seem to do no harm to anybody, if he wants to believe in them.  No need to call them rubbish.  The Creator will decide if he wishes to accept Muslim75's form of devotion.  The Creator will decide if he has a pure heart.

Peace and blessings to you,
CH

[edit:  Oops, maybe I spoke too soon.  As I was typing, a new response has appeared by islamispeace.]
[edit 2:  As I am re-reading I see that islamispeace did also resort to insults even in his prior post.  I thought his last paragraph appropriate, in his prior post.]

I see no reason to ever be insulting.


Edited by Caringheart - 28 September 2014 at 11:41am
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Originally posted by Muslim75 Muslim75 wrote:

More on the topic of the Sufi when he says "I am Allah":
  
In the Holy Qur'an:
"(It is better if) Allah and His Messenger is pleased, if they are believers." (not "are pleased", but "is pleased" ; Surah 9, V 62 )
 
 
In the Hadiths (Bukhari), Allah Almighty says:
 
''...till I love him, so I become his sense of hearing with which he hears, and his sense of sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks"


You can repeat your false claims all you want.  They are not fooling anyone.  Obviously, you are a person who doesn't want to learn, just to spread his false ideas and lead Muslims astray as you have led yourself astray.   
Say: "Truly, my prayer and my service of sacrifice, my life and my death, are (all) for Allah, the Cherisher of the Worlds. (Surat al-Anaam: 162)

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Originally posted by Caringheart Caringheart wrote:


How do people think it is ok to call another person's belief's 'rubbish'?Would it be ok for other people to call your beliefs rubbish?I think there is nothing wrong with presenting differing viewpoints but respect for others should be paramount.asalaam.


Read the reply of bro Islamispeace for crying out loud.
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