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Caringheart wrote: How can you believe in rubbish like this? How do people think it is ok to call another person's belief's 'rubbish'? Would it be ok for other people to call your beliefs rubbish? I think there is nothing wrong with presenting differing viewpoints but respect for others should be paramount. asalaam.

Hi Caringheart,

I agree with you here. In case anyone noticed, about 30-40 minutes ago I wrote a post on this thread, that sarcastically mocks a hadith I am discussing with Islamispeace.

It was on here for a few minutes, until I decided that if I am going to be preaching respect and calling people out on being disrespectful to others' beliefs, I shouldn't be acting like a hypocrite. So I deleted what I wrote.


Edited by TG12345 - 27 September 2014 at 5:57pm

Muslim75 wrote: More on the topic of the Sufi when he says "I am Allah":     In the Holy Qur'an: "(It is better if) Allah and His Messenger is pleased, if they are believers." (not "are pleased", but "is pleased" ; Surah 9, V 62 )   In the Hadiths (Bukhari), Allah Almighty says:   ''...till I love him, so I become his sense of hearing with which he hears, and his sense of sight with which he sees, and his hand with which he grips, and his leg with which he walks"

So, now you are misquoting the Holy Quran to spread your ideas of shirk?  I am sure you remember the hadith of the Prophet that anyone who interpret the Quran according to his own whims, let him assume his place in Hell. 

Here is how the verse is really translated:


There is nothing in this verse to confirm the abhorrent idea of your so-called "Sufi masters" saying "I am Allah".  The Prophet and the Sahabah never said such things.  The fact that you have to resort to misquoting the Quran just goes to show how misguided you are.  In that regard, you are no different than the non-Muslims who spread lies about Islam in order to deceive people.

I urge you to leave behind shirk and embrace true Islam, as practiced by the Prophet and the Sahabah, because on the Day of Judgment, you will have no refuge from Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He).

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