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AhmadJoyia
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So, you don't believe in the rebirth concept as commonly associated with any of the Pantheistic religions like Buddhaism. Hmm!! This is really strange to me. Then what do you think about life after death?
Some believed that Siddhartha taught celestial beings could be reached through attainment of Nibbana, most believed in rebirth and others believed it was ludicrous to put beliefs in such things as there was no way of testing these claims just another diversion that can ensnare a practitioner and lead them to fantasies without seeing the true nature of things. This led to a significant split, as you already know Mahayana and Theravada. Similar splits are again observed in the Theravada mainstream and Mahayana. The Pali Canon itself wasn�t even compiled until 100 to 50 BC some sites say 80BC in Sri-Lanka, which by then ideas and thoughts were added based on the bhikkus understanding. The Tripitaka is not the same among all denominations; they are variances between each school of thought. Keep in mind the Tripitika with all its contents takes up an entire bookshelf. Some interesting sites on what the Buddha was like. So you mean there is no authentic book which provides accurate sayings of Gotama Buddha? So almost every one in Buddhaism is just believing in their own cultural-moral stories and associated them as from Gotama Buddha?
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=00000000010,00000 001258,0,0,1,0 http://www.harunyahya.com/buddhism03.php I humbly disagree with some other contents mentioned in this Islamic site about Buddhism but agree with what is said on the Pali Canon on this page. It is for this reason that I have not quoted nor presented anything from the so-called "biased" websites.
Devas means celestial beings or Gods. What is this concept of "Gods" or "celestial beings" according to your beliefs? What is there relevent status as compared with Gotama Buddha?
Another Tripitaka site listed below it may show some texts that might have been unavailable in the one you mentioned go to the first link on that webpage Introduction toThe Buddhist Bible. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9449/perspec.htm http://watthai.net/talon/jataka/jataka.htm A bit about Jataka stories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jataka But who is interested in stories like "Jataka"? Is there any significance of them in Buddhist religion? I hope you would not base your faith on "folklore and mythic literature" or would you? But would like to know about " Buddha-vacana" if you can refer some website.
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Here comes Sherlock Holmes But mark my words, "atleast for the sake of census." I am still learning religion Sanjiv. I want to learn it soon. I thought you were a Buddhist. I envy you for you know a lot about Buddhism. |
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I have reached enlightment brother beloved well I wish at least. You left your trail in another posting brother recognize this
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How did you know that I am a Hindu?
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Sanjiv
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Thanks mate although I can be irritably slow in replying to posts. If you like there is a Islam and Hinduism thread if you like to post some articles on Hinduism below Beloved as there are a number of people who want to know what Hinduism is about. Hope to see you around soon. http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=249& PN=3
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Thanks for the link AhmadJoyia. Yeah as soon as I saw the Jatarka link (nothing in their yet) you will see plenty of reincarnation stories of all of Siddhartha�s previous lives supposably ( I have attached a link below if you like to see Jataka stories). They are other mentions of reincarnation dotted hear and there. I can�t find any evidence that Siddhartha suggested this theory especially once we know that the first texts was compiled at least 100 years after the death of Siddhartha, which by then there were approximately 500 different schools of thought. Some believed that Siddhartha taught celestial beings could be reached through attainment of Nibbana, most believed in rebirth and others believed it was ludicrous to put beliefs in such things as there was no way of testing these claims just another diversion that can ensnare a practitioner and lead them to fantasies without seeing the true nature of things. This led to a significant split, as you already know Mahayana and Theravada. Similar splits are again observed in the Theravada mainstream and Mahayana. The Pali Canon itself wasn�t even compiled until 100 to 50 BC some sites say 80BC in Sri-Lanka, which by then ideas and thoughts were added based on the bhikkus understanding. The Tripitaka is not the same among all denominations; they are variances between each school of thought. Keep in mind the Tripitika with all its contents takes up an entire bookshelf. Some interesting sites on what the Buddha was like.
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=00000000010,00000 001258,0,0,1,0
http://www.harunyahya.com/buddhism03.php I humbly disagree with some other contents mentioned in this Islamic site about Buddhism but agree with what is said on the Pali Canon on this page.
Devas means celestial beings or Gods. Another Tripitaka site listed below it may show some texts that might have been unavailable in the one you mentioned go to the first link on that webpage Introduction toThe Buddhist Bible.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9449/perspec.htm http://watthai.net/talon/jataka/jataka.htm
A bit about Jataka stories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jataka
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Your posts are beautiful brother Sanjiv. They are quite informative. Such posts help people like me who want to learn about different religions.
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AhmadJoyia
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Here is an interesting quote by Gotama Buddha, but really don't understand as who are devas in this quote? Can you help providing some details on this. "224: By telling the truth; by not growing angry; by giving, when asked, no matter how little you have: by these three things you enter the presence of devas. " Reference: Dhammapada XVII (vv. 221-234); Kodhavagga, Anger; Translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. http://www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/sutta/khuddaka/dhp/tb0/ dhp-17-tb0.html
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