Does everyone think they are a scholar?

AhmadJoyia wrote: Noah wrote: jenni try and read this book online Im sure it will answer you quetion Peace Noah Bro Noah, this book is lacking authenticity and doesn't represent a scholarly researched writting. Picking up Quranic verses from here and there to negate sunnah is not at all a wise approach. We all know it took Quran almost 23 years to reveal, without reading it in its proper historical context to falsify ahadith, is thus, a big falacy. Hence, it is the work of none other than people like Saint Apple Pie and company. May Allah provide us true guidance in our endeavor for the right direction. Amin.

Peace brother

Authenticity? I disagree with the tone used in the article. there is no need to be that snide. But i agree with what it says a long way down the line. I take the Quran for what it is, and i trust the book, and thus God and his prophet, when the Quran states that it contains all examples, is easy to learn, is the criterion etc. To me it is clear as daylight that we where never intended to use anything but Quran as relegious guidence. And its hardly random quotes, i can make you a full list of all the  ayat where its made clear.  The way i see it the hadith keep the book in the context of 1400 years ago, where it really was meant to be for all times. It is meant for all people and cultures, yet people insist that we should wear the same clothes have the same beard etc. because of hadith. Many men cannot even have beards. To me this is cult syndrome. But to each their own. Im not God, im nobodys judge, all i can do is what God expects me to. Educate myself, use my reason, my sense, and verify all things before i accept them ,and listen to all being said, and follow the best.

a great Quran tool
http://www.studyquran.co.uk/

Peace
Noah


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Ummziba, I allways like your contributions. Peace

jenni try and read this book online

Im sure it will answer you quetion

Peace
Noah

O my dear brother Noah, great respect for your ideas and comments about Quran, but one can't ignore the history of Islam, good or bad, both. This doesn't mean that you have to wear the monocle of hadith to read Quran or to understand its general meaning. However, there are still numerous topics that have been alluded in Quran and their full understanding (or you can say as how to implement) comes from authentic ahadith. Islam deals with complete system of human life, from its fromation of a society to its individual members. Hence, if Quran provides constitution for a society, then sunnah forms the guidelines to implement this constitution in the form of a law. And if Quran provides a law, then sunnah provides the guidelines as how to implement the law (I am using "if" as an anology for presenting the examples). In any case, its not the vice versa. Your respect for Quran is true at its own merit, however, authentic (I repeat authentic) sunnah must not be down graded as well from their own stature.

Now coming to historic value of Islamic manuscripts, have you ever realised how important these are? The website that I referred you, provides evidence of assurance (through human intellect) that the copy of Quran that we are holding now in our hands, is same ditto as was revealed on Prophet Mohammad. In the absence of which, how do you claim its preservation other than from Quran itself? Think for a while, hopefully, you will get the answer yourself. It is this promise of Allah, through which Quran has survived the tides of history, otherwise, for history there is no exception. 

May Allah give all of wisdom to use logic for all our matters. Amin.