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    Posted: 02 June 2008 at 2:47pm
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You did not answer the question yet. Please address the quote:
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Matthew 6

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 5"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
 
You are missing the point.  It doesn't matter what direction you face and what physical position you take, it is all in the words you use and what is in your heart.
John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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The Jews still pray toward Jerusalem as they did in the OT.  Actually, I am curious as to when and why this practice was abolished by Jesus.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote honeto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 2008 at 3:19pm
beleiver,
may I suggest, please take time, read and address the issue in your answers.
You still are trying to dodge the Daniel 6:10 quote that I have mentioned.
This quote peaks out of what's left of the Bible and shows that people of the book at some point guided by God were facing a certian direction when doing their Salath, like we the Muslims do today, but you  don't.
Not only that but it also shows that the Salath or Worship was done several times a day, three according to the above quote.
You are speachless on this and thus have not addressed it a bit.
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62

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No honeto you do not understand. 

A Muslim visiting another country has to find the direction towards Mecca before he can pray.  We are allowed to pray in any direction.  The direction does not matter.
 
I understand in a church or mosque during a service that all face the same direction, that only makes sense.  It could be very chaotic if everyone moved to face another direction.  LOL!!
 
we are to pray:
 
1 Thessalonians 5
 17Pray without ceasing.
 
While we are working, mowing the grass, driving a car, etc.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote honeto Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2008 at 4:27pm
beleiver,
I am waiting you address this quote that I have posted before:
Read: "daniel 6:10 Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before."
This is a reccord that people of the book were facing certain direction when praying, and were offering their prayer certain times a day. I would like your thoughts on that.
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Shasta- Exactly!!
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"No it was not lost- as man has matured and grown in GOD, we understand that it is what is in our heart that is most important!"
 
If the contents of man's heart is what is most important then there would have been no need for divine guidance at all, our hearts would have led us. There certainly would have been no need for a blood sacrifice.
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