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Posted: 10 May 2008 at 5:15am |
seekshidayath - LOL!! Too funny.
Seriously though Jesus is the GOOD NEWS, Gospel. He is the message of the Gospel.
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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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seekshidayath
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We believe in the label not the contents
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Besz�l itt valaki magyarul?
Yuz Asaf
admin: we don't know what that mean so we can not publish it. Edited by icforumadmin - 09 May 2008 at 9:20am |
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honeto - You mean the Book that contains the Torah and Injel confirmed by Moahammad and Quran?
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John 3
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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John DM, I think its a waste of time to quote and prove something from a book that have a big problem with being credible. I may have considered what you have said, if I had not known the book. I have read it, it has many fundamental inconsistancies. You won't sign a bank document if you found an error on it? Hasan Edited by honeto |
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The friends of God will certainly have nothing to fear, nor will they be grieved. Al Quran 10:62
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The Christians are told that Christ has victory over Death.
The Skull and Crossbones is a sign of Death at 611. (Made up of the Skull at 322 + Crossbones at 289 the Crossbones + 2 Skulls is 933 the Biblical Beast to come up out of the sea of people and start marking them and 322 x 40 is Eve at 12880). Now there are four time important periods, namely from conception death on the Cross at 12,880 day, and from conception to 2:35:35am on Ascension Day on May 18, AD30 is 12,920.48075 days and from birth at 2:30am October 1, 6BC to death on the Cross at 3pm Friday, April 7, AD30 12,607 days and from birth to Ascension Day at 2:23:35am May 18, AD30 is 12,647.48075 days. Multiply all four and squared once and cubed once x 3 is equivalent to the Holy Ghost at 1,288,000 x 6.110000e+15 and /4 and cubed. So the Holy Ghost, the spirit body of Jesus Christ leaves his natural body and soul at death and by this act defeats Death at 611. Clever whosoever worked this out for people like me and so to Number Form Follows Measurement Function. |
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Islam�s Cresent Moon
As there are seemingly few dates in Islam from where I come from I have to dwell upon the start of the calendar in AD622. So to 'Number Form Follows Measurement Function'. And the crescent Moon is a symbol used by Islam, a Moon which only ever shows us 59% of her face. The first chapter of Genesis says the token, the Moon, is as a ruler of darkness. As every Moslem knows Abu al-Qasim Muhammad was persecuted for his teachings in Mecca and fled to Medina in AD622. This flight to Medina in AD622 is known as �The Hegira�. In Medina, Muhammad became a leader and theocratic head of the town. Muslims reckon time from the new Moon early in the morning on Hegira July 16th in AD622 which is the year 1 A.H. And so rather easy counting shows that the Israelite�s Exodus in 1441BC which the Bible says was 430 years after Abraham first visited Egypt at the age of 75 years old in the year 1871BC. Abraham was 99 years old in 1847BC, some 1,876 years before the Crucifixion on April 7th AD30. And when Abraham was 99 years old he was told by God to make the covenant sign of circumcision, and Ishmael, the son of Abraham, was 13 years old when he was circumcised. And Ishmael lived 124 years after his circumcision. And so we understand that Islam came out of Ishmael so to speak, and so we need to consider seriously the year 1847BC. Now counting from the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ of Nazareth at 9am on Friday, April 7th AD30 to 3:30am July 16th AD622 the first day of the Islamic calendar, is 592.273 years, x 365.242198 days and divided by 12 periods of 29 days 12 hours 44 minutes 03 seconds (354.3670531 days) is some 610.4494 lunar periods x 12 months. Next, I multiply 1876 years from Ishmael�s blood covenant with God to the blood covenant of Jesus Christ with God at his crucifixion, x 610.4494 12 lunar periods x 3 and divided by Pi twice is equivalent to 5,900 x 5,900. The number 59 refers to the Pharaoh�s insignia as a Ruler of Darkness, that is the goddess serpent of Delta Egypt at 17 + the vulture goddess of Narrow Egypt at 42. Now to the Book of Enoch, which tells of the Sun and Moon cycles in the other dimension, I presume to be Hades. The Moon has a cycle of 354 days, compared to the 354.367 days for our Moon�s 12 cycles around the Earth. Now one sixth of 354 days is 59 days, a number associated with the Knights Templar, an example being the Temple Church of the Virgin Mary off Fleet Street, London, which has an unusual round nave at 59 feet diameter, a radius of 29.5 feet. This simple bit of arithmetic reveals that the Islamic religion is of the Moon, and the Moon is the token for the Ruler of Darkness. And this calculation had for its very fulcrum the date of the Crucifixion, when the Sun was unseen for a time, so darkness can be the very proof that there is a True God. But then curiously I can contrive something extra, because 5900 x 5900 x Ishmaels� 124.0036 years from circumcision to death and cubed twice is equivalent to 611 x 611 x 611 x 611 x 611 x 6.110000e+72. But this must be a coincidence. |
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Someone was counting one tenth of time, times and half a time at 126.
The Judgment of Prophet Daniel Daniel (God is my judge), was one of the four great prophets, although he is not once spoken of in the Old Testament as a prophet. His life and prophecies are recorded in the Book of Daniel. He was descended from one of the noble families of Judah (Dan. 1:3), and was probably born in Jerusalem about 623BC, during the reign of Josiah. At the first deportation of the Jews by Nebuchadnezzar, young Daniel and three other noble youths were carried off to Babylon. In Babylon, (today�s Iraq and since about the 1920�s has a land area of 168,000 square miles x 0.75 is 126,000), Daniel was obliged to enter into the service of the king of Babylon, and in accordance with the custom of the age received the Chaldean name of Belteshazzar, meaning �prince of Bel�. His residence in Babylon was very probably in the palace of Nebuchadnezzar and at the close of his three years of discipline and training in the royal schools, Daniel was distinguished for his proficiency in the �wisdom; of his day. He soon became known for his skill in the interpretation of dreams and rose to the rank of governor of the province of Babylon, and became �chief of the governors� over all the wise men of Babylon. He made known and also interpreted Nebuchadnezzar's dream; and many years afterwards, when he was now an old man, amid the alarm and consternation of the terrible night of Belshazzar's impious feast, he was called to interpret the mysterious handwriting on the wall. He was rewarded with a purple robe and elevation to the rank of �third ruler�. Daniel interpreted the handwriting, and �in that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain�. After the taking of Babylon, the great ruler Cyrus was now master of all Asia. The time and circumstances of Daniel�s death are not recorded. He probably died at Susa, about eighty-five years of age. The prophet Ezekiel, with whom he was contemporary, mentions him as a pattern of righteousness and wisdom. So Belshazzar, co-regent of the Babylonian Empire, watched as these words were supernaturally written on the palace wall: �MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.� (Meaning �Numbered, Weighed and Divided� as well as measurements). �Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom. In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.� Daniel 5:24-30 Each of the words the fingers inscribed on the wall is a measure of weight. The basic Babylonian unit of weight was the gold shekel (tekel). The mena equalled 50 shekels; the upharsin (half a mena) equalled 25. The four words, therefore, stood for: mena is 50 shekels; add a mena of 50 shekels add a tekel of 1 shekel and add a upharsin of 25 shekels, a total is 126 shekels. And 126 represents not only the Ancient Egyptian �Eye of Horus� it refers to the human mind, the human spirit man within, a metaphyiscal body that is released at death. So Daniel deciphered the spiritual �hand writing� as �126�. And Daniel was told by an angel the importance of �time, times and half a time� that is 1,260 days and its relationship to the end times. |
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