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    Posted: 14 August 2005 at 11:13am

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Any brave souls want to understand sura 86 with us....?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 August 2005 at 5:02pm
Where is sura 86...?
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Well�we have turned the tables on you�

only in your mind http://www.freedomdomain.com/relig.htm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 August 2005 at 4:47pm

Greetings Noah,

 

Thanks for your reply�

  

Your miserable attempts at trying to discredit me falls like water on a gose.

 

You�re doing a fine job all by yourself�

 

 

 

It only serves for you to try an remove forcus from the information that you dont like.

 

The theme of this thread is sura 86�just like the header reads�

 

You seem to want violate the forum rules by �hijacking� this thread as you stated�

 

Well�we have turned the tables on you�

 

You don�t understand your book of faith nearly as well as you thought�as sura 86 confirms that you worship the pagan god horus�

 

You are powerless to refute this�



 

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Nice unreferenced pics�albeit none of them come from sources that support your position.

ofcourse not, i just needed the pictures. If you want the source of the information, use the comprehensive litterature list you have allready and start there.

Unfortunately, your weblinks don�t tell us where you stole the photos from�

 

More plagiarism on your part�

 

You will need to be able to reference your articles when you enter junior high school next year�..

 

We just want you to be prepared�

 

 

Belive it or not, not everything written down in the world is on the internet.

If it�s on the web, then it has a link�

 

 

 

Most of us use this thing called a book for knowledge. and i be damned if i had to scan in images i can find ON the net itself.

You use nothing but a five minute �googled� effort�

 

You have repeatedly demonstrated this by running away from our sura 86 exegesis�

 

 

 

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Unfortunately, there was nothing mentioned regarding the classic Arabic of sura 86.


because that has nothing to do with any of it

 

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You are going to have to work harder at convincing us that horus is not the god of sura 86�as the evidence (according to your theory) points to horus as the god that you worship�


I did, look up.

 

Sura 86 is about your worship to the god horus�.prove us wrong�.

 

Now�run along and learn Arabic�

 

 

 

Thanks�

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for more of your unreferenced plagiarized webpaste�although; you did manage to slip in one irrelevant weblink�


whatever

Quote Peace be upon you

I cannot take credit for it. Im doing the same kind of research, but Jordan Maxell allready did make that fine file i posted. So im not to entitled any credit but for the very last post, thats partly my work.
I didnt write Jordans name, not because i dont respect him, i highly do so. But because many american christians know him, and fear him as the devil, so if they see his name they would not even read it. The information is from his website, an i can confirm most of it personally, he makes a few errors, but we all do, were just human beings. And if you want to send it about. Just do so, but insert his name so he can get due credits for his 45 years of theological research.

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Greetings!

Regarding your replies to Apple Pie, I was amazed by your patience and effort to post all that. I actually want to print out everything that you posted, so I'm wondering if you have all that information in a neat MS Word document? Or should I just cut and paste?

Thanks.


Your miserable attempts at trying to discredit me falls like water on a gose. It only serves for you to try an remove forcus from the information that you dont like.


 

Quote Nice unreferenced pics�albeit none of them come from sources that support your position.

ofcourse not, i just needed the pictures. If you want the source of the information, use the comprehensive litterature list you have allready and start there. Belive it or not, not everything written down in the world is on the internet. Most of us use this thing called a book for knowledge. and i be damned if i had to scan in images i can find ON the net itself.

Quote Unfortunately, there was nothing mentioned regarding the classic Arabic of sura 86.

because that has nothing to do with any of it
Quote You are going to have to work harder at convincing us that horus is not the god of sura 86�as the evidence (according to your theory) points to horus as the god that you worship�

I did, look up.






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Greetings Noah,

 

Thanks for more of your unreferenced plagiarized webpaste�although; you did manage to slip in one irrelevant weblink�

 

Nice unreferenced pics�albeit none of them come from sources that support your position.

 

Nice slice and dice job�

 

Unfortunately, there was nothing mentioned regarding the classic Arabic of sura 86.

 

You are going to have to work harder at convincing us that horus is not the god of sura 86�as the evidence (according to your theory) points to horus as the god that you worship�

 

 

Take care�

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 August 2005 at 3:41pm
the morning star
http://www.johnpratt.com/items/astronomy/eve_morn.html
http://www.khaldea.com/planets/venus_type.shtml
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Venus_Transit/id/4468

and many more

as for sirius
http://www.ummah.org.uk/what-is-islam/quran/noble/nobae053 .htm#49
heres an except
And that He (All�h) is the Lord of Sirius (the star which the pagan Arabs used to worship);
and basically any refference work on islam will tell you that.

Sirius is not  linked to horus. However. Sirius can be linked to isis in that part of egyptian theology.
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 August 2005 at 3:28pm
Ok, let's look at horus shall we?


-This is an image of the vatican. The mother city of christendom, people
are gathered in joy to celebrate;

" In 1685 part of the Canon Law of the Church of Rome, which was published
in Paris, describes the Pope as "Our Lord God the Pope." In 1896 the Bishop
of Bayloone describes him as "The visible personification of the Spirit of
God." And here in an amazing quotation from the R.C. 'Universe' (27th June, 1846).
The following official description of the installation of a Pope is given -
"He is borne in the pontifical chair, and is placed on the High Altar, a spot
consecrated by the actual presence of the body, blood, soul and divinity of a
living Christ. He sits on the High Altar, using it as his footstool, and enthroned
as King; he is adored as a God in the same manner as is the consecrated wafer, adored
by the Cardinal Princes, who kiss HIS FEET WHICH REST ON THE ALTAR OF THE SUPREME. He
sits in the Temple of God, showing himself as if he were God."
(source:http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?printerFrien dly=true&ArtKey=manofsin)

Someone who think he is god. Although just another god in this hodge podge theology that
is roman catholicism (christendom) and all its branches.

In the middle of the Squrare we see this

Now do we know what this is? This is called an obelisk, and we have another rather
famous one of those at karnak

just for kicks, here is the inscription on it
Quote North Face

Horus, powerful of Ka, two ladies flourishing in years, Horus of Gold, Divine appearance, King of the upper and lower Egypt, lady of two lands, maat-ka-ra. Her father Amon hath stablished her great name Maat-ka-ra on the holy Ashet tree. The records of her are for hundreds of thousands of years, being united to life, stability and power. Son of Ra imn-hmnt, beloved of Amon-Ra, the King of the gods constructing this beautiful monument of arenaceous. She celebrate for him the first time of the celebration of Sed Festival, to she is given the life eternally.

East Face

Horus, powerful of Ka, King of the upper and lower Egypt Maat-ka-ra loved of Amon-Ra their Majesty made the name of her father to be established in this monument places ahead to praise to the King of the upper and lower Egypt, Lord of the two lands Akheperkara (Tutmosis I) by the Majesty of this God. According to that she set up two great obelisk for his Majesty in the first times. This was said by the lords of the Gods by your father King of the upper and lower Egypt Akheperkara (Tutmosis I) giving you order to setting up obelisks. Your Majesty will multiply monuments causing who lives eternally.

West Face

Horus, powerful of Ka, two ladies flourishing in years, Horus of Gold, Divine appearance, King of the upper and lower Egypt, lady of two lands maat-ka-ra. She made monuments for her father Amon Lord of the thrones of two lands. She erected for him two great obeliscos in the noble door of Amon with great dignity worked with much fine gold illuminating the two lands like the sun. Never was the like made since the primitive times of the Earth. It was done for the son of Ra Imn-hmntw (hatshepsut) to that is given the life like Ra eternally

South Face

Horus, powerful of Ka, King of the upper and lower Egypt Maat-ka-ra image shining of Amon. She made appear as king of the upper Egypt on the throne of Horus within the sacred place of the sanctuary, the nursling of the Great Company of hte Gods to be lady of the circuit of the solar disc. Whom they have joined to life, power, and joy before the lives to the son of Ra Imn-hmnt (Hatshepsut). Loved of Amon-Ra, King of Gods, to whom is given the life like Ra eternally.

 

Now...why would we find such a thing, in the middle of a SUN wheel in the vatican. Perhaps there
is a hint to be found the the roman manual to pagan and canaanite rituals.

"Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me;
Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me." Psalm 23:4



what we see here is pharao with his rod and staff. The iron rod for kingly rule, the staff for
spiritual rule. Altso often represented as 2 keys, as in understanding (thus ruling)of the hidden
as well as that wich is seen.  The same symbol is used by the pope today.



and still means the same thing. That it is the same kind of thinking, and the same dietys these
guys always had. Only they changed a few names and resold the whole deal of the pharaos.
It interresting to note here that in Quran God promises that he will preserve the pharao's as
clear evidence.
And all the scholars think it is the mummy's. Mummy's smchmummy's, they are found
all over the world, and many of them indians (and children), they are hardly pharao all of them.
The pope, however....

Both into sun worship, uses the same symbols (obelisks, sundials, suncrosses, the rod, the staff and
the keys)
both think that they are god or God's representative(read: thus rightfull owner) of earth, atleast
untill Jesus, horus, mithra, baal or whatever name is hot with the sunworshippers atm. comes back
and saves the day on a cloud.

But then again. Ofcourse the father of christendom would say wierd stuf like "im God" when he
has freind like these


I hope the implications here are obvious, and that i dont have to spell them out. I would strongly
suggest that anyone reading this far, look into the following. Santa and shamanism. Shamanism and
early relegion, manna and the holy grail.

Heh, look at this chump, he looks as if hed been on it for awhile

And then give that the poor man believe that the first people ate from the tree of wisdom ,so that
they knew good and bad

thats a funny tree. could it be?


Ofcourse youre going to get it all upside down accationally


Youre not catching on to our tune here sweety pie. Whatever book this man administrates and influenced,
are of no concern of ours. Nomatter whatever you believe that you find in some obscure langual
details in ours.

I will quote horus

And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?



 
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