Gay muslims?

ops155 wrote: I have a question for all Muslims... Why is it that you can judge an entire group of peaceful people whom you have never met

Peaceful... as the Brits would say my bloody foot!

Most corruption is not necessarily gunslinger based... the laws being forced down passed through the corrupt whore hopping politicians likes of Clinton and fag Barney Frank et al are no less...

They are in your face having other nations to tow the American liberalism line is the reality of this mentality and also a mark of Jewish economic and cultural control that is galling! 

ops155 wrote: yet you don't think Christians should be able to judge all Muslims and condemn them for not believing in Christ?

Oh really! haven't they tried this for last two centuries and failed miserably...but yes they did colonize them and now the struggle of Muslim liberation is shaking the Christian apple cart...As a matter of fact the first thing the Christians were supposed to do was to convince the Jews about the Messiah instead they have become their slaves and doing all the dirty work fighting wars for material on their behalf if you can swallow this truth! Have you ever talked to an Israeli about Christianity and gotten sopat on your face? The Christ came for the children of Israel to stop their money changers business in the Temple but the Paul or Saul found the pagan Europeans a better lot to marry in!

I didn't ask about what was being done to muslims from christians, i said do you believe it is ok for us to discriminate against all muslims since you don't believe the way we do? It is exactly what you are doing to gay people.
Keep digging the hole deeper now the truth about your religion is coming through... being gay is also it's part Off course we don't believe like you and your helpers do...I do understand why the truth about gay people is so bothersome to you cuz  Americans are getting to the point of legitimizing the basxards...Oaf it is beyond your control ...The PROOF when I saw this form as part of the bank loan application a questionnaire to sign about "Domestic Partnership and Union" It is so clear how screwed up is the American society has gotten particularly after the Wall Street generated financial rip off...Now it is the banker to decide not you or me... who cares who is screwing who, the banker has made screwing the world universal...Now this discussion is all academic if the bankers say it is OK and they have the power to forcing down whatever a swine(haram) consumer society will willingly accept...

ops155 wrote: There is endless evidence that sexual orientation is from birth and not choice. yet religion is 100 % choice.

You are talking from both ends of your mouth...

The idiocy is congenital and then want it indoctrinated as normal...It seems you are equating homosexuality with religion...Normal sex is denied to Catholic priesthood and then end up sticking to the poor boys in the rectory so what gives?

ops155 wrote: Before anyone says I am pro gay, I'm not.

As if some one here gives a hoot about your being one or not!

ops155 wrote: but I do believe in freedom for people to make their own choices as long as it doesn't harm others.

The disease level of STD HIV and death rate amongst gays blows your thesis out of the water! That effects cost of health care for the rest and makes hostages out of normal people cuz it is politically incorrect!

So can we start to put all the fat people down because they cost us more in healthcare than any other group out there? Even smokers. So all you chubbies, sign up to be put down.
Lame comparison, BTw isn't gluttony one of the deadly sins in your book not that I care for the pigs! You become what you consume!
Are you one of them?

ops155 wrote: So even if your choice is not the one I would make there is nothing I can do about it because it is none of my business. Muslims and actually religious people in general always talk about not judging others and only god himself can judge people yet you bring up a gay man and the judging is off the charts.

As long as they keep it to themselves and not have the laws made favoring  gays!

Duh, God has given the judgment already, Reiteration being labeled as  judgment is moronic thinking or.."the congenital American optimism that denies conflicts and imagines all stories having happy endings" RJ Samuelson)

what law has been made that protects them more than anyone else?
Now they can scream discrimination in promotions and hiring like the blacks would! I have seen it happen in work place, them getting ahead just being extra aggressive and vocal to get away with preferences! They have their clubs that promote their causes where others are their own... And when one of our vice president croaked cuz of his AIDS I thought there is always a poetic justice!