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    Posted: 06 November 2005 at 6:31pm

 

 

It is my belief that all Knowledge is part of the Book of Knowledge and this knowledge is in part a test to All Mankind.

Therefor one can say that any every Book is part of Islam and Life.

Whether a Book is of a Negative or Positive Nature it is a test to All Mankind to decipher what is learned from such a text and to correctly guide others to it's use or discard it.

The challenge it seems with which we are faced is to share knowledge so all Mankind may be raised to the Station for which they were intended.  That Station is Gaurdian of Themselves, others and The World.

To mean the Word Islam is the same as the Word Life and both of these words discribe a process which we are all in and that is to be good, loving, caring resopectful people and if we are not on this path then why not.

I mean no disrespect to anyone in speaking as I have.

This is in part my understanding and belief in Islam and Life.

If you ask people of other cultures they will tell you they have words that sound differently but discribe the Process of Life and Islam too.

Anne Marie Elderkin Habibi

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YUSUFALI: It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge.

 



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David, I appreciate your analogy.  I understand.  The Hadiths are the user manual to the program.  That makes much more sense.
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A piano is perfect & complete in that it has all the notes and one can play
anything on it. But we non-virtuosos still need composers and musicians to
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Angela,

You are right.  The Quran is perfect.    It's content is flawless.  BUT that doesn't mean we don't need a teacher/example to show us how to take the content of the Quran and implement it into our lives.  

The prophet is our teacher.  He brought the quran to life through his example.   He explained it with his tounge.  Allah says:

25:33 And no question do they bring to thee but We reveal to thee the truth and the best explanation (thereof).

During the time of the prophet there were no written hadith and there was no need for such because he was there as an example.  Now, in this day and age the hadith is our connection to the prophet (s.a.w). 

We have to ask ourselves, "why did Allah ta'la send us messengers?"  He's the Almighty, he could have sent down books without messengers.  The fact is that in many areas, we need an example and/or explanation for verses, commandments,etc.  It doesn't make the Quran flawed or incomplete, it makes us HUMAN. 

Hope this helps 

Salaam

 

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Okay, I get what the Hadiths are "supposed" to do, which is clarify.  It is much like our Doctrines and Covenants.  But, because of the claim that through Muhammed the religion was perfected, I would reason that the Hadiths which were not given directly by the prophet would not be needed.  If the Quran is the perfect book and given by God, then nothing else should be needed.  There shouldn't have to be clarification. 
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Angela, this is what I have learnt, the hadiths are the examples of Muhammed, his actions and words, as according to his, actually Allahs commandments, from what I know, the hadiths were recorded alongside the qu'ran, more so after the revelation. If you read a commandment from the qu'ran or scriptures but you don't know how they were carried out correctly, then you resort to the hadiths, because Muhammed recieved the rightful way of how to do and be, He is an example of how to be.

The qu'ran and hadiths are needed, some can carrying on without the hadiths but many others need them, for claifying.

Hadiths are the explanation or example of the sunna of Allah (some people probably say the Prophets way but come to think of it, Muhammed followed God's law/qur'an so hence Allah's way/sunna) it gives followers an insight in how to be.

And if you didn't know already, I am non muslim.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Deus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 November 2005 at 4:27pm

This website has always been a good start, in fact, you might have already come across it;

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/

 

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Thank you Muslim Friend.  I appreciate you're attention to this. 

I've got several main issues with Islam, the Hadiths lead into the others. 

Thanks again

Angela

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