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Jami
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Posted: 30 September 2014 at 8:09am |
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Thank you all for your interest and your insightful and helpful comments. To be clear, my husband agrees that he should pay money each month, and has even agreed what that amount should be. Over the past four years however, since we made the agreement (at my insistence because he was paying nothing since 2004, despite me asking for support and him promising it) he has paid me that agreed monthly sum just 10 times. He has occasionally bought our son expensive but totally unnecessary gifts, and then when I have asked for the agreed monthly amount he points to the gifts and says 'there is the money'.
So to say that he needed to plan in advance for the Hajj and therefore could not pay the money is incorrect. His family and the monthly support we need is not a surprise for him. In fact I just realised that he must have lied to me for a long time if he planned for the Hajj in advance! Good point Abuayisha. |
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abuayisha
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Hajj requires advance preparation, as well as advance ticket purchase. Could it not be that at the time she requested funds he'd already spent his money? Is it possible to "steal" from your own earnings?
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Ron Webb
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Not a chance, but thanks anyway! And to be fair, abuayisha didn't say you were wrong. He just wanted some evidence, which is always a good thing. |
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Abu Loren
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Of course he did. His earnings were never spent on his wife and child whilst he lied about his earnings to his wife. He's a despicable individual. |
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abuayisha
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Abu Loren does that imply you believe her husband went to hajj with stolen wealth?
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Abu Loren
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It seems to me that Ron Webb knows more about Islam than abuayisha.
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Ron Webb
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For what it's worth, on islamqa.info I found a reference to the following hadith: "Ibn �Abd al-Barr (may Allah have mercy on him) said: It seems to me that if a man takes money that ought to have been used to support his family and uses it for Hajj instead, that would be an evil deed and the money (essentially stolen from his family) would not be "halaal wealth". But I'll try to leave this discussion to others. |
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abuayisha
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The trouble is, whose "simple" logic do we base our religious practice and understanding upon? Ali (raa) once said, 'If the religion were based on opinion, it would be more fitting the wipe the under part of the leather socks rather than the upper part of it. However, I have seen the Messenger of Allah wiping over the upper parts of his leather socks.�
(Reported by Abu Dawud with a good chain of narrators) Edited by abuayisha - 28 September 2014 at 10:18am |
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