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pauline35
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Posted: 15 January 2006 at 9:10pm |
Dear Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters,
I declared that I am here in this Islamic Forum for a reason and that reason is to learn about Islam and perhaps, one day I would like to embrace Islam. However, sad to tell that I am always attacked by Christian Evangelist generally because I have strong faith in GOD and it is the GOD that shows the right path for it is not coincidental that I found this web. When I spoke about Islam and my belief that Prophet Muhammad is the last Prophet that there is reason for Prophet Muhammad to be the last Prophet, I get the attack from Christian who told me TO THE HELL OF OTHER RELIGIONS. Whenever I try to learn more about Islam, the more attack comes from only the Evangelist. Isn't this so weird or is this the work of SATAN? To stop me from reaching GOD. I guess it is a test to determine how strong my faith is for GOD or ISLAM. Edited by pauline35 |
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pauline35
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ANGELA WROTE:
I see now that all you can do is tear down the good acts of others because the believe differently than you. IS IT NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING? ARE YOU NOT DEFENDING YOUR CHURCH IN ISLAMIC FORUM? WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DECLARE YOUR FAITH IN ISLAMIC FORUM? IF THIS IS YOUR DEFENSE SPEECH, THEN IT IS A PATHETIC ONE. YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT A HYPOCRITE WHO SPEAKS OF ONE THING BUT DOES ANOTHER. AND ISN'T IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU? ANGELA ALSO WROTE: Before you judge my church as filled with hypocrites and evil doers.. WHEN DID I SAY IT? OR ARE YOU ADMITTING IT THAT IT HAPPENS? I REPEAT MYSELF THAT I SAID THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS DONE BY CHURCH AREN'T RIGHT ESPECIALLY THE ANGELICAN WHICH APPROVED THE ARMAGEDDON. CHRISTIAN CHURCH USES DONATION TO SPONSOR LUXURY CAR, TRAVELLING FARE TO JERUSALEM, EXCLUSIVE 8 COURSES CHINESE DINNER ETC FOR ITS PASTOR AND FOLLOWERS. AND IN RETURN, THE PASTOR WILL TRY TO CONVERT OTHERS THROUGH THE PYRAMID SCHEME LIKE DIRECT-SELLING. THE MORE YOU CONVERT, THE MORE CREDIT YOU HAVE AND THIS WARRANTS YOU A SEAT IN HEAVEN. ISN'T THIS TRUE? I DO NOT WASTE MY TIME TALKING TO EVANGLIST, HOWEVER, I PREFER TO SPEAK TO ANY PROTESTANT. HOPE YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO MY DECISION SINCE YOU CLAIMED TO BE NOT "A HYPOCRITE". PERHAPS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SCREEEN YOUR OWN ATTITUDE TOO BEFORE PASSING YOUR JUDGEMENT. THE CHINESE USE TO SAY A HORSE LOOKED INTO A MIRROR AND SAY: "GOSH! WHO IS THIS UGLY FACE IN THE MIRROR?" AND HORSE ALSO SAID "THAT'S NOT ME?" THE MORAL OF THE ABOVE SAYING IS THAT THE HORSE DOESN'T KNOW THAT HE HAS A LONG FACE. BTW, TALK IS CHEAP. THAT IS WHAT A HYPOCRITE IS ALSO ALL ABOUT. THE EVANGELIST ATTACKS THOSE WHO ARE WEAK AND LONELY. USING THIS FORM OF PSYCHOLOGY IS NOT CONDUCIVE BECAUSE HUMAN THINKS. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAITH AND BELIEF. Edited by pauline35 |
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Angela
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I was not expressing that we were the only, I was expressing to how quickly we were able to act and the preparedness that we have because of our sacrifices. I was trying to express what can be done when people come together as a cohesive unit and have organization and drive. I see now that all you can do is tear down the good acts of others because the believe differently than you. You don't know me, you don't know the level of my faith. I personally think your faith is based on a us vs them attitude. That is not what God wants for his children. Judgement is for him alone, perhaps you should rethink your attitude before you call me a hypocrite. I live in line with my beliefs and I am a faithful daughter of God. A hypocrite speaks of one thing but does another. That is not me. You think my faith is weak because I openly talk about the good works of my church. My faith is not weak, I am just happy to be part of making the world better, rather than calling some woman who lives half way around the world names when I don't know her. Before you judge my church as filled with hypocrites and evil doers, perhaps you should know more about us as a people. Talk to Jenni or Herjihad, both Mormon sisters who converted to Islam. But, both left the church at young ages and never went to temple. If you won't talk to them. Here's a couple of websites. http://www.lds.org (Official Site) http://www.mormon.org (FAQ Site) http://www.of-worth.com (Site on Women in our Faith)
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pauline35
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Mualakum Salam, forgive me that I am still learning...
amlhabibi2000 wrote: Expertise can be a blessing where and when people need it or tutoring or money in some cases. As for a set amount I agree it should be according to the finacially ability of the donor and not a set amount though if it was a kind world people could donate more than 2o% of their proffit. I say you are right and it is so true that expertise can be a blessing in some cases. My girlfriend is of this example. She is so kind that she voluntered to become a special aide to Palestine's President during the Peace Forum event in Kuala Lumpur recently. It is an honour to have someone like her as confidante whom sacrificed her time and her expertise to aid in that event which held by Former Malaysia's PM (Tun Mahathir). In return, (as the saying goes, what goes around, what comes around)she had a great opportunity to explore herself whilst voluntering as a special aide to Palestine's President. This was like a golden opportunity that only happened once in a lifetime. GOD BLESS HER FOR HER KINDNESS. |
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pauline35
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What kind of GOD is that whom required human as sacrifice for ritual's purpose? Why don't apply some logic into this request by THE GOD? This is a human act for slavishness.
Perhaps, GOD meant THE SON was ANY SUBSTITUTE THAT CAN BE SACRIFICE FOR ITS RITUAL! Sister Angela, you do not need to tell the whole world what your so-called "CHURCH" has been doing all this while. Every human being would know what to do in the event of any eventuality because we are just SO HUMAN to do so. Every country had made donations to those unfortunate ones. Needless to say those included the Arab or the Muslim countries too. Some Emir donated on an anonymous status. They didn't tell the whole world what they did and how much had they donated. It is just humanely that they did so out of human touch. You expressed as if you CHURCH was the only one who had donated some amount for the unfortunate victims. Why do you have to mentioned "how much"? Psychologically, you sound like you are inferior in your inner self. This is the factual of a hyprocrite's personality. |
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Angela
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Tithes are 10% of your gross, in a world where you are compensated in a monetary gain....it is a basic translation into money. I produce no goods at my business, nor does my husband. Our gains only come in the form of cash. If I were a farmer, I could donate a 10th of my flock or grain. To him belongs a 10th of my gains. This is not a cut for God, this is a sacrifice he demands. This 10th is given to those who need it. The church administrates the distribution only. This tenth pays for the free Book of Mormons and the basic maintenance of wards and temples. But it also goes to feed the poor, cloth the naked and educate the young. Our church sent $900,000 worth of food, blankets and supplies within days of the earthquake. We were able to do this because our people already sacrifice daily. Other churches had to hold special donation drives and fundraisers. We also fast once a month and further as our personal needs require. When we fast, the meals we miss, we donate to the poor. I cannot fast as a diabetic, but I am still required to donate the equivalent meals to the poor. Because of this, God grants us prosperity and peace. This is not symbolism, this is action and commitment. Sacrificing a burning a lamb would be symbolic, taking your sacrifice and feeding another with it is a deed that can be recorded. |
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Sister Angela please quench my ignorance on the comment you made regarding "God's money" is it not the ritual of giving Tithes symbolic rather than the thought of a "cut for God?"
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Angela
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I look at my 10% as God's money. I have no right to say he cannot have it. And because I show my faith, I am blessed. When I pay tithing, I never want for anything. If I need help paying rent or getting groceries. I go to my bishop and it is given. We are taught to budget and ignore the call for worldly things. There are lots of criminals out there. Televangelists and corrupt charities. But, God has required sacrifices, if he says you must give 10%, 2%, 100%, then you must give. Its a test of faith, if you don't think you can, then you aren't having faith that God will provide. Look at Abraham and Isaac. He demanded his son, and when Abraham obeyed, he provided the ram instead. Trust in God and everything will work out. |
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