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    Posted: 28 April 2006 at 5:22pm
wow, what an easy way to get citizenship.

I am jew.... now give me the worlds most powerful passport.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2006 at 7:54am
Well done sis Ummizba. I like this article, especially the concluding phrase "However, instead of spending his first night praying in a country that guarantees freedom of religion, Rahman ate pizza and ordered one espresso after the next. Then he went to shave. "
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 1:24pm

Sounds like he has schizophrenia....he has many of the symptoms.  This is the first I've seen a description of his behaviors.  Under these circumstances, religion becomes a part of the disease.  I have a friend who is schizophrenic.  He needs heavy medication to stay focused on reality.  He once in a blue moon forgets.  I've seen him stop, look at thin air and then look at me, "I need to go home for a minute."  We'll take him home, he'll take his meds and 1/2 hour later he's better.....but he'd seen a Giant Glow Worm or something like that.  He converted from Christianity to Hinduism and its hard to talk religion with him at times.  Its an aggitator for him.

http://www.nelmh.org/page_view.asp?c=10&did=759&fc=0 01001001

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 12:53pm

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518 ,409650,00.html

to read an interesting story: The Troubled Odyssey of Abdul Rahman

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 12:46pm

Sis Angela, there are two elements of motivation in my theory, for his conversion.

 1. The distorted info. By this I meant, not only the fictatious conversion stories but numerous other techniques to influence.

2. The promise for rosy gardens of the west.

If element number one is a guess work, I can understand, but certainly not the second one. The 16 years after conversion he spent in Germany is the evidence I was refering to.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 11:05am

Assalamu Alaikum:

GEEZ! Everything turns into an argument here lately.

How will we possibly ever know why this man converted or what was in his heart or mind. Maybe he just wanted to eat some bacon.... who knows? He did it. He is not the first Muslim to convert and won't be the last.

Perhaps if the Ummah were stronger and we didn't argue about every single small detail, but instead spent more time helping others and trying to truly love for the sake of Allah(SWT), Muslims as a whole would feel part of a larger more caring and cohesive community.

Yes, we are always happy when someone reverts to Islam, but then what happens to them? You have only to look here to see that once people become Muslim they are sort of adrift with no-one to guide them or make them feel part of a whole.  I have been a Muslim for 10 years, yet I still feel that here where I live. Even on this board many times we have seen the born Muslims denigrate the reverts. What is that all about?

If people are leaving Islam, perhaps we have ourselves as the Islamic Ummah to blame. No, the Ummah is not a myth, but it sure needs some serious resuscitation....

 

It is only with the heart that one can see clearly, what is essential is invisible to the eye. (The Little Prince)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:21am

Your theory lacks just as much evidence.  You have no account showing that they gave him distorted information.  You would all have it that he's insane, he was tricked or tortured.  He made a choice of conscious.  He found his truth in Christianity.  Though you may disagree with his choice.  Its his right to choose and his choice to make.  The "self proclaimed" muslims and Mullahs calling for his execution wanted to rob him of that choice....when even the Holy Quran gives it to him.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2006 at 10:12am
Yap! I am willing to equate your theory with the one presented by bro Salman since both lack evidence. This is not true for all other theories, though not to boast, especially the one presented by me.
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