Katherine: The Message of God

Angela, couple that remark of Prophet Young with this:

"The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood�was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 115). and:

Natural Act does not necessarily equal sex. 

The birth of the Savior was a natural occurrence unattended with any degree of mysticism, and the Father God was the literal parent of Jesus in the flesh as well as in the spirit." (Religious Truths Defined, p. 44) as cited in the book, Mormonism: Shadow or Reality, by Gerald and Sandra Tanner, Utah Lighthouse Ministry, P.O. Box 1854, Sal Lake City, Utah 84110, Bookstore at 1350 South West Temple. 1982, page 260).

This book is an Anti Mormon book, not written by Mormon theologians.  Thus what it says is irrelevant.

Joseph Fielding Smith said, "They tell us the Book of Mormon states that Jesus was begotten of the Holy Ghost. I challenge that statement. The Book of Mormon teaches no such thing! Neither does the Bible." (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, page 19)

     Bruce McConkie, who was a member of the First Council of the Seventy stated,

"Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers," (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, page 547.)

"And Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events,...Christ is the Son of Man, meaning that his Father (the Eternal God!) is a Holy Man." (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, page 742.)

I have already shown you where this book is publically and forceably denounced as false by the Prophets of the Church.  Therefore, as they have said it is not cannon, then what Elder Mcconkie says is also irrelevant.  He was not Prophet, he cannot make declarations like this.

Heber C. Kimball who was a member of the first presidency said,

"In relation to the way in which I look upon the works of God and his creatures, I will say that I was naturally begotten; so was my father, and also my saviour Jesus Christ. According to the Scriptures, he is the first begotten of his father in the flesh, and there was nothing unnatural about it." (Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 211)

http://journalofdiscourses.org/Vol_08/refJDvol8-54.html

Again comment taken out of context.  We Believe the cosmos to be a progression.  These are not concepts of sex between Mary and God, but that Jesus is God's son in the Flesh.  This is not impossible for God to do considering his exalted state. 

"The man Joseph, the husband of Mary, did not, that we know of, have more than one wife, but Mary the wife of Joseph had another husband" (Deseret News, October 10, 1866) as cited in the book, Mormonism: Shadow or Reality, by Gerald and Sandra Tanner, Utah Lighthouse Ministry, P.O. Box 1854, Sal Lake City, Utah 84110, Bookstore at 1350 South West Temple. 1982, page 261.

I highlight this in blue to separate it from what President Kimball said as again you are quoting an anti mormon book that was not written by Priesthood holders or even General Authorities.  Its like using a Nazi text to talk about Judaism.

     You see, Angela, it isn't that McConkie was wrong in his theology; the fact is, McConkie was only teaching what had already been taught by your church's leaders.  Now, poor McConkie, who was being honest is disowned by today's Mormon leaders because they have as their goal to appear before the world as just another Christian denomination.

Nothing could be further from the truth - Mormonism is a non-Christian religion.

Mcconkie was denounced immediately, not after time.  The problem with Antis is they like to take tidbits here and there and used them for their own gain.  First off, Brigham warned people about taking everything he said as literal.  He admitted that he had a habit of speculating and that some things he said just as a man not as the Prophet.  Secondly, the concepts being taught here, are not the concepts you want them to be.  They are not the doctrine of mainstream churchs, but they don't make us any less Christian.

I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and I close all my prayers in his name.  I profess his Atoning Sacrifice.  You and none of your kind can take from me the name Christian.