Post Partum Depression

Hamza Yusuf: He is the one scholar that has strongly put forward that 3 of the 4 madhabs believe that domestic chores are not the responsibility of women. -NAJAMSAHAR

WAHLAH- She is telling the Truth. In his c.d. set " Marriage Rights and Responsibilities" also in his C.D. " Men and Women" and even his tape cassette seerah "Muhammad" he talks about this issue and more, again, again, again, and again.

I love sheik Hamza Yusuf...May Allah bless him and his family. I'm beginning to believe HE MAY BE THE ONLY SCHOLAR in North America who is attacking the problem starting the the mind and the heart hence:

"Purfication of the heart"

" The Poor Man's book of assitance."

That brother is trying to build a healthy community based of this deen not based off of personal prefferences, biases, predjuices, and ignorance. Every Muslim community has and will fail until and unless they build based off deen, ilm, and a good heart.

He is the only brother I've heard discuss how the abusive behaviour of Muslim men affects not just the mental but the physcial well being of women. In one lecture he made a comment about men stressing their wife out so much they were loosing their hair and missing menstrual peroids.

What's so very sad is many brothers who belong to ISNA and ICNA are M.D.'s some OB.GYN's? And yet they still don't get it.

Sisters that why I'm following Dr. Northrup because she respects the wisdom of our minds and our bodies, Sheik Hamza Yusuf also does to, AllahuAkbar May Allah swt really  bless that brother.

Salaam o alaikum Fatima

My apologies for my misunderstanding of your post regarding postpartum depression. I proubably got confused with all the pasting and copying I was doing trying to read what people were saying.

And Fatima.. I want to say that I agree with you 100% regarding the solution to Muslim women's problems. Running from Allah won't help, but running toward Allah will help indeed.

Fatima Mernissi wrote a book called "The Forgotten Queen's in Islam." I do not care for Dr. Mernissi but this was a really good book in my opinion.  Muslim farthers have a whole slew of Muslim men from history to offer as a role model, while Muslim women aren't left with very much. There is not much written for the Europeans and North American Muslim about the mothers of the Prophets pbht, nor the Persian Queens, nor is there much written about the Muslima alim's.  As a mother of a duaghter, I do not want my daughter looking up to people such as Oprah Winfrey, Condaleeza Rice, Janet Jackson, nor even Rosa Parks as a role model- they aren't Muslim, there goal isn't ahkirah, there goal is dunya. What makes me enraged about this subject is nobody ever thinks about the young women this affects because were too busy blaming the other gender instead of getting to the real point!!!

The Islam that I know to be truth is the solution:

"It is not Al-Birr( piety, righteousness, and every act of obedience to Alah that you turn your faces toward east and or west inprayer but Al-Birr is the quality of the one who believes in Allah, the Last day, the Angels, the books, the Prophets, and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to al Al-Masakin the poor and to the wayfarer and to those who ask and to set slaves free performs salat and gives the zakat and who fulfil their covenants when they make it and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment and at the time of fighting such are the people of truth and they are the pious. Surat 2:177

How great is our Lord sister? How compassionate how mericful  Yet here we are fighting each other and ripping each other apart?

" And when my slaves ask you O Muhammad concerning me, then answer them, I am indeed near to them by my knowledge. I respoind to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on me with out any meditator so let them obey me and believe in me so that may be led aright." Surat 2:186

SupanaAllah

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

Sister najamsahar, you were writing the wrongdoings of many muslims and then events of some women apostating in the same breath and i took it from there as it was sort of excuse. But as you said you dint mean it like that and i apologise for trying to solve a life situation with a maths equation of if x=y and all the rest, Sorry.

You raised a point of why not having sermons about opression of womenfolk and about thier rights. Sis thats the problem which is tearing the structure of ummah down. We have so many mosques alhamdulillah where im sure sermons are given of being one ummah. Then next those same people would tell common muslims how wrong the followers of other mosques are. If those sermon would have done something we would not be where we are today. Sis our problem is not just women and how muslim brothers treat their women. Actually i think that sort of is part of our problem, when sisters got treated badly they attributed it to islam rather than those muslims.

So many of us are scared of being married to a strict muslim brother, as sister alwardah asked why are we so scared of being a good muslim? I dont know when it started but with this feel of resentment in our womenfolk has derailed our ummah. I am not blaming sisters, it was a response, basic physics law right, every action has a reaction. But the reaction was wrongly directed, as a result of opression, instead of going towards the Lord and away from people's effections, we went away from Lord and found new ways of getting effections from people.

I was talking to my sister and we were discussing same thing, i said to her too that i think we went slightly off track when we started cutting our womenfolk from deep attachment to deen. I dont know how it started, was it negligence from our side or brother's side. But we put our future at risk because in our lap lays the strength of future. I only know of one muslimah scholar who is world known and thats where we went wrong. In the result of this only about 21% muslims are observing the salah, because if you dont see it happening in your family, your chances are very less in this blindingly glamorous world.

I know i am going on and on but if more than 70% dont even care about the duties toward their Lord, how are they going to care about other things. I dont know what i really am trying to say here but just that majority of us muslims dont know what islam means, its essence, its beauty. Till the time when we do, you cant expect much from people because using power when it is given to you is natural instinct, observing duties and rights of power comes with knowledge and im afraid we dont have that.

wassalam

As Salamu Alaikum Sister Najamsahar 

I was not disagreeing with you, only sharing my experiences on a point that you mentioned.

Yes I did read your response to sister Fatima and once again I was sharing my experiences when I referred to her statement. Even a great scholar like Shaikh Bin Baz (Ra) (I regard him as one of the greatest of our time) is disrespected and criticized by many of his own people, because his rulings do not satisfy their whims and desires. When I said that disrespecting scholars is the norm, I was generalizing and not referring to anyone in particular.

Wa Alaikum Salam