Is it true that infidels is low form ?

Thank you Ali Zaky,

You advise is very helpfull

I'll try to analyse everyone who ask me about my faith in your way.

And for David thank you for the advise,

I will always try to be a good friend to anyone.

Regards

 

Wibisono

 

Salam Wibisono

Of course, as Muslims we should not miss any opportunity to discuss our faith with others, or to invite towards Islam. This must be done appropriately, however.

In my experience, there are two type of people that will question you regarding your faith. The first type is someone who may seem hostile and confrontational in the begining, however, if you answer his question from correct sources (i.e., give him the correct answers), you will find him more receptive and wanting to learn more.

The second type of person will approach you in a very sweet and nice way. He will try to engage you in discussion " on the spot", and try to encourage you to give your own interpretation of Quran, although he knows you are not qualified to do so. If you say to him, "I need to check on this and get back to you with the right answer", you will see in his face that he is not happy with this. If you give him the correct answer to his question, he will lose interest in you.

For this reason it is important not to rely on yourself or other non-scholars to answer your question, especially when speaking with those outside of Islam. This will give you an indication as to who is sincere in wanting to learn about Islam and who is simply trying to attack you. Alway make sure you can quote your sources for information.

I believe the Quran stated muslims should be peaceful towards the non-believers who are peaceful to us. & patient towards the others. & defend ourselves if ever threatened.




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wibisono wrote: Dear AhmadJoyia Thankyou very much for your answer, its a released for me. I have more verses that I think has a wrong translatation. Here are some of them : --------------------------------------- Direct quotes from the Quran: ANNOUNCE PAINFUL PUNISHMENT TO THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE (9:3)

By quoting only a partial verse like this from Quran has actually revealed your true identity, 'O' my "Muslim" brother. Nevertheless, you are not the first one, and I may not assume, you to be the last one to bring such verses and paste them here on such forums totally out of context. I thought, in my honest opinion, that you would try to rationalize and may ponder over my previous reply. Though the translational variations may change the meanings of the verse drastically, but Alhamdollilha we have the original Quran in Arabic with us. On the more this language "Arabic" is not a dead language like aramic or near to be dead like greek. Its a daily spoken language. Therefore there is no chance of getting wrong in understanding of Quran for a long and corrections to misunderstandings during translations can be done with relative ease. Instead of replying you on all of these verses one by one, (some how I already sensed that all lot of more to come from you) therefore I have already provided you the general background for these verses and why were these revealed. The order to figth was not against their beleifs but against their oppression that they had caused over the muslims. I shall advice you to i) first of read the basic life biography of Prophet Mohammad from any good book. ii) Then go back to these verses and start reading them with reference to their context which obviously come from reading the complete chapter and not just one verse in isolation. This would definitely require hard work which I think you are willing to put into it and not just doing cut and paste kind of a thing.

wibisono wrote: ..If you wonder wher did my firnd got those translation, well he said he got it from this URL: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/

 
Yes, I do wonder because your reference provides three translations including the one that I mentioned in my previous quote. Had you been little mindful, you would have picked up the differences yourself. But as I said, you can hide your ID, but not your intentions. Of course, you may not admit it, and I don't care about it either.
 

wibisono wrote: Islam need people like you to verify the content of quran so they won't have misperception.

I am sorry, you are grossly wrong. Islam doesn't need me nor any one. Its me and only me who needs Islam. Its my humble wish to be a muslim, not because of blind faith, but with full concious of mind.
 

wibisono wrote: If you like I can post the complete dialog beetwen me and my friend so you can analyze how wrong is their perception about Islam.

No need, I have already seen your laborious effort on an another thread. How pitty for those who by themselves can't argue with logic, take the shelter of athesits to slumber upon Islam. Simply because they had enough from them and thought this would work against Islam as well. They are sadly mistaken about it. Any how rest of the comments I may reserve it for that particular thread at an appropriate time. 

wibisono wrote: My friend Ahmad, I have a strong faith to Islam but my knowledge is shalow. I'm so glad to find you who has ability to answer my question this will even strengthen my faith. Regards Wibi

My dear brother, you may not last long, not only in this faith but in any discipline, if you don't get knowldge about it. What good it will do to you if you simply cut and paste the questions and replies to and fro without developing your own understanding about Islam? Even if you get satisfied with my replies, that is not at all enough. You must, and I say again, you must have to start to learn about your faith right from its own source. That is, Quran. Read and then try to ponder over its verses as they themselves speaks to you. They shall tell you that this book is the most authentic book of this world and there is no (I repeat no) doubt about it. No book on this earth is comparable to it. So, with so much precious knowledge is within your reach, its pity that you remained aloof from it. Nevertheless, nothing is never too late as long as you put up all your resources onto this task of learning about your faith. I can only pray (who ever you are) to Allah, the God to whom Prophet Jesus also used to pray, that He may guide all of us to the right path. Amen.

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