Female circumcision halal?

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Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

Khair insha allah,

I do not believe in
following jurisprudences especially when all four [no matter how
similar they are] have difference of opinion on matters. I am one of
the opinion that there should be a unified belief [aside from the
unified belief inOneness of God etc]. 

Diference of opinion is a rahma from allah which he afforded us, this is one reason why rasul allah [sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam] used to stay silent on matters and chose not to answer them. He would also tell his followers that the jews used to ask there prophet to many questions [as the sahabah where also doing at the time] and it brought them ruin as they could not handle the responsibility of knowing so much and acting upon it all.

You dont really know why there are differences between the madhhabs to have an opinion about why there should be only one.

These same Madhabs you speak of
Rami also spawn individuals who believe that women are second class
citizens and who believe in the excision of a woman's clitoris.

This to me and any other person who is familiar with Shariah law indicates you dont even know why four madhhabs exist or what they actualy do. Principles of law do not produce individuals who look down on women i would like to  see you establish this as fact. Differences in legal principles is why we have four madhhabs diferences in opinion and interpretation is why we have more than one ruling on a particular matter within a madhhab.

You see Islam is diverse and hardly authoritarian as you so blindly claim.

Just becouse a shaykh happens to belong to a madhhab does not mean he only holds opinions of the madhhab no scholar is infallible and for you to place together all the scholars of a madhhab spanning the period of 1400 years on the words of a handful of individuals is low.

Obviously Rami unless it is
mandated in Islam you do not believe in the objectivity in science
therefore, it remains to be Kufr practice if it is done outside of
Islam am I correct?

Actualy i thought i already clarified this point, "the natural state of matters is permissibility until it can be established that it is prohibited."

You are the person trying to say female circumcision is not a part of islam.

You say that my Arabic [or lack
thereof] is insufficient in understanding various translations of
Quranic doctrine as well as Hadith. Whatever, that may be true that my
Arabic is not up to par. but that kind of comment could easily be
mistaken as an excuse for an individual [such as yourself] inability to
logically prove something is reasonable.

No i have stated the legal principles indicating the way in which our prophets words should be taken maybe i wasn't clear enough, "His commenting it self is approval his silence is also considered
approval and acceptance, only his open and clear condemnation is taken
as prohibition." this is becouse had someone said something reprehensible in front of him he would not of hesitated to correct them, rasul allah would not stay silent on an error he was obliged to guide people and help them.

 Rami, you have not proven that
medically speaking the excision of tissue from the hood of the
clitorous is beneficial to the woman. 

I dont need to prove benefit just harm, only when something is harmfull can it be against islamic law. No one has established the Islamic view is harmfull.

"the natural state of matters is permissibility", until harm can be confirmed, a good example of this is smoking at first the scholars had said it was makruh but when the scientific community established that it caused so much dammage to the body they then declared it to be Haram.

Of course ignorant muslims who know nothing about islam simply thought they had just changed the law.

I've given you a link to a
legitimate medical website for you to see for yourself as well as links
made by Muslim physicians who, are using their arguments against Female
Genital Cutting from the interpreted Hadith.

When performed properly as per islamic dictates there is no harm but when it is not mutalation occurs and in this matter i agree with them, they have simply lumped all formes of female circumsision into one basket and labeled it all the same out of there own ignorance. A muslim medical physician is not a muslim scholar he is not qualafied to speak about islamic law and my argument would be just as valid as his, but when comparing it to that of a madhhab whose views i am stating the physician may as well be talking about aliens on mars.

The subjective position you hold is obvious and since you have failed to objectively prove anything.

I dont need to prove anything you do, all i need to do is establish the matter is part of islamic law and that is enough.

I have shown the outlining view of FGC but if you want I can prove how this practice is not a benefit to women,

Not being a benefit and being harmfull are two different things, simply becouse you may or may not prove something is of material use or benefit does not decrease from the religious responsibility. Do you know all there is to know about creation or harm and benefit no but we still are obliged to do things in the sunnah, it is part of obeying Allah.

are then going to respond that the woman's feeling in this matter irrelevant?

A muslim women has no trouble following the sunnah if that is what she believes to be true and her responsibility, muslims put there religion above there selfs this is our quality which is instilled in us as practicing muslims and the result of our worshiping Allah. 

You said that my reverence is like that of a "westerner" obviously you cannot overstep my nationality and rather,

Most scholars i listen to are of a western background not arabic well except for one. I dont even identify my self as Lebanese and am against any form of nationalism. 

call me a Muslim you identify me
first by my nationality and emphasize that rather than me being a
Muslim. It doesn't surprise me anyway I think it was you that made the
dumb comment about there being a difference between Eastern and western
Muslims right?

According to this simple logic as soon as a person says the shahadah his level of ihsan increases phenomenally he becomes a wali of allah perfect in almost every way and destined for the highest levels of jannah.

I was referring to you not having yet shed your past and embarrassed true ibaddah of allah, it is a journey and a path which one increases himself in. Shahhadah is only the beginning of becoming a muslim not the final stage.

Our prophet said we are only as good as the last verse we recite before death, do you understand what he meant by this?

Yes I'm confident in my knowledge
because I'm working hard to establish myself. I'm sorry you do not
believe in confidence but that is your choice.

There is no room for I in la illaha illah llah.

Anyway your opinion is yours on this matter.

no its the opinion of Islams Great mujtahid Imams.

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sorry sister was typing while you closed this so it posted anyway i guess.

Edited by rami