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sibeld61991
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Well, I'm wondering...are we still talking about the false statement of newsweek??With the Quran flushed down the toilet...when i heard this, even with there apology i still think its all a lie! This is only my opinion, but I think that they apologized because it was offending the Muslims in the world, yet it really happened. If you have any comments about my opinion, just post a reply.
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Mink
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Thank you for responding to my post, and also salamu alykum to MOKBA and all. I just want to respond to your remark quoted. I am an American
married to a Moroccan Arab. For those who may not know, Morocco
is an Arab Muslim country, fairly primitive as compared to America (for
example, running hot water is a luxury), and has unfortunately
contributed participants to the terrorist pool. I honestly cannot tell you all the kindness and sensitivity
Moroccans have shown me. They have gone far out of their way to
make me feel safe and welcome. Poor people who have nothing will
find some small gift to give me only to make me smile. Neighbors
keep a close watch over my safety (to the point of driving me crazy
sometimes). Complete strangers go to any trouble to assist
me. People in the community are careful to invite me to
participate in events. Little children run to me laughing because
they are fascinated to meet an American. (I keep chocolate in my
pocket for them. Many have never tasted it.) Their parents
wait patiently, smiling. I routinely have these experiences all
over Morocco, not only in the town in which my husband and I live. I'm sure there are many places where Americans are not welcome and
are even hated for no reason other than being American. I am sure
there are Moroccans who feel this way. But most do not, just as
most Arabs throughout the world do not. The problem is, kind and
decent people don't make good press. Please know there are many people in other countries, including Arab
countries, who are eager to meet you and who will like you if given the
chance. Come visit us in Morocco. You will love Morocco, you will love
the people, and you will come away with a whole new perspective, I
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onegamemaybe2
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Incredible,just remember muslims,jews, atheist,hindus,catholics all those labels make up the U.S.Your own people help create this country and they are looked down upon if they ever return home,or maybe even killed for living in the here.Now tell me how thats not ironic?So yes there is evil everywhere,but when you leave the U.S wether you are evil or not you are always persecuted,just for bieng an american.Which is again acountry made up of the worlds people,who vote evryday for there freedom to express and believe what ever they want,and yes some do create havoc to get others to believe in there ways,but bombing of restuarants,and public places to innocent people that want to be free is not the way to handle things.Thank you for your comments they did not lean to one side and that is what is important.God Bless You |
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MOCKBA
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Salaamu'alaikum and thank you for an enlightening post, Mink. |
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Mink
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So much hatred, so little time
There are two kinds of people in the world: sincere people of good intent (even if they sometimes make mistakes), and evil people. Additional labels such as Christian, Arab, Jew, Muslim, American, etc. add spice to life, but right now our world has too much spice. The Newsweek article was probably true. I don't say that because I believe Americans are evil. I say it because: 1. The International Red Cross has made numerous complaints to the U.S. in the past regarding desecration of the Qur'an. 2. The early response by the U.S. government was not to deny the allegation, but to say it was the prisoners themselves who tore pages from the Qur'an to make the toilets overflow. They only changed to a denial when they realized there was going to be big trouble. 3. The government changed their story three times in the days after the article appeared. 4. Common sense dictates that Muslim prisoners in an American war prison are frightened. They have only Allah. Even if any Muslim on earth would desecrate the Qur'an, and we know that is very unlikely, no human being would desecrate their holy book under the circumstances. As Americans say: There are no atheists in foxholes. Since the American govenment obviously lied regarding this, there is no reason to believe their current story. 5. Newsweek is owned by a large corportation. Large American corporations are known to be vulnerable to political pressure. When Americans hysterically and aggressively deny the possible -- in fact probable -- truth of this story, they are really saying they can't believe their military would do such a horrible thing. Now, it's true they should know better. We all saw the pictures of Abu Gharib. But Americans -- like other people -- love their country very much, and they've been raised to think such horrors are simply not possible. It's very painful and it takes time for an American to accept the truth regarding the atrocities their government is capable of. It's understandable if other people don't have any more patience left to give to America. In many cases, we can all admire the kindness, patience, tolerance, and generosity of spirit others have shown to Americans. If some now are completely fed up and are responding with horrifying violence, this too is understandable, although it is no more acceptable than American atrocities. We need to return to basics, supporting sincere people and rejecting evil people without regard for anything else. There are good and decent Americans, good and decent Muslims, good and decent Jews. There are also sick, degenerate, rabid animals among all those groups. The world is too complicated for us to have the luxury of being able to point to any group and say "those people are evil." Allah told us to encourage good and forbid evil. If we concentrate on that, without allowing ourselves to become distracted by superficial labels and the need to identify one group or another as the personification of evil, we'll have all we can reasonably do. |
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onegamemaybe2
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Your honesty shows your arrogance.I care about your brothers and sisters as much as mine.Thats the truth and god is truth.There is love for everyone in gods eyes and by you bieng honest with yourself might be the first step to realizing that I love all.Not just christians,but all.If extremist hide in churches then they themselves desicrate there own way of representing there faith.They know we won't go in them so they hide there,don't you see that.And you wrote we desreve much more than beheadings who are you to judge who are they to judge,its not yours or thiers to judge.God is your judge.I know you must believe that.Then you say my emotions are on ALL then you say,it's normal to have MORE feelings to there next of kin.Well thats a contradiction right there.Your always writing in between the lines.Love is for all.God is love.
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MOCKBA
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Just look at your own writing and reflect for a moment... the very sentence that questions arrogance is filled with arrogance. As Bush requested for increase of military presence in Iraq because "They still don't want us there"... You want to "step your foot", i suggest you knock the door, and if invited, do not forget to take of your military boots off. When you stomp into places of worship with guns, shooting children, raping women and humiliating men... you deserve much more than beheading. My emotions are on all, if you failed to read the lines, instead of focusing on an empty space between them... It is absolutely normal to have more feelings to the next of kin compared to strangers. Therefore, i was honest to say that in my caring for both my Muslim brothers and sisters are the priority.
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onegamemaybe2
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Well the occasional non-muslim or the rest of the world.you separate yourself and your muslim brothers and sisters.If allah is lovethen your thoughts and emotions should be on all. Saying that means you care more for yourselves than the rest of the world,that is not love for all.You also can't expect to be welcome with open immigration especially after 9'11 which was known by the a large part of the islamic brothers and sisters you speak of as bieng one of the greatest accomplishments ever to have happened by muslims,so of course laws are stricter.At least you can still have some sort of chance.You can't even step foot on any arab soil wether you mean no harm or not without bieng looked at as a arrogant american.Now tell me how you still talk about innocent muslim blood,when you have horrific violence happen all the time to your own innocent people?The horrific acts of violence are not just occasionally bieng used in the name of islam,but all the time they are said to be in the name of islam.Now how would you get someone to believe in your religion if those things are happening and especially getting them to feel for the people who have died in the name of islam if its always promoting violence.The suns are playing the spurs,reggie miller retired and the heat are playing the pistons.I don't even watch the NBA.So if I know this I might not be so bad after all.GOD BLESS YOU
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