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Originally posted by Rose Rose wrote:

Sandra said :


�I want to hear your views on this.� We know these women more often than not, will say that they believe in what the male says and that he is totally correct, however deep down they are horrified and quite often waiting for their day to come.� Please, let me know what you think and drop an opinion here.� I would be interested indeed to see your point of view.


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Yes Sandra I hear you. You have the right to give your opinion and I respect that and that you are trying to help.Please just tell me "ARE ALL YOUR FINGERS ALIKE". Of course not.� I know alot of Non Muslim women who fear their "boyfriends" and are scared to talk.�


I see your point but what men are doing as you have said "killing honour" no matter what their religion, �is no explanation for their doings. As for islam "The real Islam"(islam means Peace) is very pure. And I am not telling you, �you have to convert or anything but like you have opinions others do to.Try to understand more.


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<SPAN =bold>I understand what you say but please don't say "You people " we are normal human beings just like you or any other else.</SPAN>


<SPAN =bold>And make sure we are judged by what we say and do whom ever we are.       ï¿½ </SPAN>


<SPAN =bold>And we are not ignorant because we read the Quran, we are more open minded.�You should read what the other religious books say. they are so similar to islam ie.� the bible,....</SPAN>


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<SPAN =bold>With all respect to all..</SPAN>


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Actually Rose I wrote that. You were looking at sandras quote box. And I was referring to "you people" as in, people that have written here in this forum. I was not referring to islamic muslims. You need to read my posts a little more carefully.
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Damn the setup to this forum is difficult... Let me go back to explorer.
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Originally posted by Rose Rose wrote:

Sandra said :

 I want to hear your views on this.  We know these women more often than not, will say that they believe in what the male says and that he is totally correct, however deep down they are horrified and quite often waiting for their day to come.  Please, let me know what you think and drop an opinion here.  I would be interested indeed to see your point of view.

 

Yes Sandra I hear you. You have the right to give your opinion and I respect that and that you are trying to help.Please just tell me "ARE ALL YOUR FINGERS ALIKE". Of course not.  I know alot of Non Muslim women who fear their "boyfriends" and are scared to talk. 

I see your point but what men are doing as you have said "killing honour" no matter what their religion,  is no explanation for their doings. As for islam "The real Islam"(islam means Peace) is very pure. And I am not telling you,  you have to convert or anything but like you have opinions others do to.Try to understand more.

As for HardStudy  

I understand what you say but please don't say "You people " we are normal human beings just like you or any other else.

And make sure we are judged by what we say and do whom ever we are.        

And we are not ignorant because we read the Quran, we are more open minded. You should read what the other religious books say. they are so similar to islam ie.  the bible,....

 

With all respect to all..


 

Religion means nothing to me, all it means is hatred.  I am only stating the facts on Islamic women that are being treated in horrific manners, and most will tell me this is not Islamic, but they are saying they are Islamic, why people dont listen to this? because they dont want to know the truth.
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And rose.  I am sorry if it comes across harsh, but I believe that "most" Islamists have shown more closed mindedness than I have ever seen open.
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Originally posted by Angel Angel wrote:

Originally posted by sandra sandra wrote:

its a fact that religion kills people all the time,

Really, all the time??

 

Well you tell me what happens when you put an Islamic person in a room with a catholic person??? do they communicate most of the time or are they preaching each others beliefs to one another? this creates violence, known fact, war is all about violence, Hitler hated the Jewish, again boils down to religion.

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Actually, religion kills people everyday.  Not a day has passed for centuries that religion has not killed someone in one way or another.  And here is another point that you closed mindeds will not like hearing.  Religion is the longest on going war that has ever existed and if Jesus were here, he would tell you how true that really is.
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Originally posted by HardStudy HardStudy wrote:

Actually, religion kills people everyday.  Not a day has passed for centuries that religion has not killed someone in one way or another.  And here is another point that you closed mindeds will not like hearing.  Religion is the longest on going war that has ever existed and if Jesus were here, he would tell you how true that really is.

Very true, good point there.

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My Sis Sandra,

I have full respect for your faith as what you believe. Its not the purpose to convert you to Islam when I asked you to search Quran, but to verify the facts at your own and through your own open mind and logic. Though you have alluded to have read Quran twice, but how could you miss out this verse (and many more on the subject), especially when research is done for such a noble cause of fighting against the immorality?

Regarding your comments regarding religion vs atheist etc, I reserve my comments for its proper forum to respond in, as for this topic under discussion, I think, they are little way off.

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