YHWH v. Allah

Doo-bop:

�Servetus - are you on the fizzy drinks again? tut tut"

Yes.  And, of course I say this as your at times long-suffering friend and designated driver, your posts might be better able to pass the breathalyzer if, instead of tut tutting, you would join me by switching to the best, frothiest American brew on tap:

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Doo-bop:

�---Actually, I did not understand why that particular question arose in your mind.  I don't know why it should be said that Ishmael and Muhammad should have known the name Yahweh.�

Do you think it should be said that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob knew that name?  

          Doo-bop:

"Re Isaiah 45:7 (Amos 3:6 is another one), the Hebrew word (I am told) is rah, meaning evil, but not necessarily moral evil, or sin �"

It sounds as though, with a few caveats thrown in, you agree with King James and his translators that the God of the Bible does create evil after all.  Let us now revisit the author's (of the opening table) claim:

�Evil is not from YHWH, but wilful rebellion against YHWH. YHWH is the author of good, not evil. (Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 92:15; 1 John 1:5)�

�Allah [in contrast] is the author of both good and evil. (Q91:5�9) [sic]�

Moving right along �

The author of the table wrote:  �YHWH loves sinners and reaches out to his enemies in love. (Exodus 34:5�7; 1 John 4:19)�

Vs.

�[The Israelite Judge] Ehud then approached [the king of Moab]  � and said, "I have a message from God for you." � Ehud � drew [his] sword � and plunged it into the king's belly. Even the handle sank in after the blade, which came out his back. Ehud did not pull the sword out, and the fat closed in over it. (Judges 3:20-23)�

Doo-bop:

            �� God has his cut-off point, and has made that abundantly clear in the Bible.�

Sorry.  Was that pun intended?  Maybe the 70�s band with the suggestively Biblical name, Nazareth, had the king of Moab in mind when they sang their hit song �Love Hurts.�

Shasta�sAunt:  �Third, I believe Servetus posted his Biblical reference above in direct response to God loves sinners, Allah hates sinners.�

Spot on.  That is correct.  Thank you for being a careful reader.

Shasta�sAunt:  �I am assuming by your [Doo-bop�s] response that being run through with a sword is a declaration of love.� 

Let's face it.  At least in my case, Cupid, with his slings and arrows, has at times gotten overly zealous.  {Think winkey face.}

Israfil wrote � � to comment on the Islamic perspective to metamorph God into a particular thing would make God temporal or to inaccurately state that this or that particular object is God. God cannot be objectified or compounded into one substance. Although God is considered to be "everywhere" this is to substantiate the claim that God is omnipresent. We must be careful to not make God to be a particular less we face defining God in a pantheistic fashion.�

Thanks for the invitation and good point from your side.  Maimonides, the great Jewish Talmudist, saw fit to explain as allegorical some of the grosser anthropomorphisms of the Torah, and this, as I recall and according to Jacob Minken, after he had encountered the systematized ahadith and Quran, wherein he found comparatively few.

Anyway, doesn�t it say somewhere in the Quran that God is closer to us than our jugular vein?  Isn�t that close enough for the author of the table?

Serv