Umrah ? |
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Author | |
Gulliver
Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
But that would be coercion and that is forbidden in the Qu'ran. "No compulsion in religion". I am not a polytheist. I am not a pagan and I am not an idolator. So your qu'ranic verse does not apply to me from what I see and understand of all three of those terms. Am I 'impure'. God alone knows that.
I was only asking. It's not a big deal. My friend asked if I'd go with him. I respect the religious laws of the place and won't go.
Rabi'a al-'Adawiyya,
an 8th Century Islamic Saint from
|
|
H3OO
Senior Member Joined: 11 July 2008 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 215 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
to my research i have not come across anything that stops nonmuslims from entering the mosques.
i heard this thing that once prophet (sa) allowed a delegation of Christians to say their prayers of their own way in his mosque. O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikin (polytheists, pagans, idolators etc) are impure. So let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Haram after this year; and if you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you if He wills, out of His bounty. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. (Surah At-Taubah 9: 28) over here impurity doesnt mean physical but refers to spiritual impurity((Aqeeda, IMAN) . This only applies to those who dont believe in the oneness of God OR pray anyone except one God like hindu community. Mosques are built entirely and solely for the worship of one God only and one God alone, so if a nonmuslim say that he is there to worship that one God only he may pray the way he please but if he says that he is there to worship jesus christ or any stone or fire or anyone else except one God, then sorry there is no room for such as such is not permitted Allah. This verse was also to stop the mushriks during the days of prophet(sa) from carrying out their unislamic traditions in the mosque while performing Haj. during those days the mushriks who were completely devoid of any sense used to bring their own Gods made of stone to the mosques to perform Haj. Edited by H3OO - 16 September 2008 at 9:41am |
|
Gulliver
Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Thank you Ahsura. I an assure you that I always have do so seek and pray the One True God - All - the Transecent who created us all. I just feel ready to make the particular part of the declaration regarding Muhammad when I don't know enough about him. It'can very a sensitive area and I'd have to be true and clear in that so that I can make an/all claims in such truth. God, knowing me as God's knows me I feel would have the doors fot the place flung wide open. Thank you again with the others here for all education and support
God be with you.
Kevin
|
|
Israfil
Senior Member Joined: 08 September 2003 Status: Offline Points: 3984 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
That remark wasn't applied to you. I'm merely saying for those in the 5% of the world who pretty much own everything, if they wanted could probably buy their way into most sacred places (of course not all). From stories I've heard from those who have met the royal family and those who have been on Hajj I highly doubt this would be trouble. It's unfortunate that this is a relaity but its the way the world is sometimes I wish it wasn't like that. Spirituality (or beng close to God_) shouldn't require money. Frankly if it were up to me the House of God would be open to all (with certain limits of behavioral conduct of course).
|
|
minuteman
Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1642 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
This is a clear order that the Pagans should never enter the Haram Sharif. But would it apply to all non-Muslims en-masse? I hope not. To be on the better side, if there was any verse of the Quran which said that only Momineen can perform Hajj, that would settle the matter in favor of those who do not allow non-Muslims to goto Hajj.
There is another problem about the word "Al Naas". What does it mean? Does it mean all mankind or those of the mankind who have accepted Islam. If it means those who have accepted Islam then the situation changes. If it means all mankind then the situation becomes reverse. Please concentrate on the word "Al Naas". Thanks.
|
|
Hayfa
Senior Member Female Joined: 07 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2368 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Gulliver,
I do say your self-honesty is quite the important part. And that Allah knows what is in there, as is for all of us.
|
|
When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
|
|
Gulliver
Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I said about my Muslim friend to some of before, meeting him and how he influenced me. I told him about this place and how so many sent him the 'salam' greeting. He is having a difficult time in life at present, and it did his soul good to hear that today I believe. He sent this link for the Qu'ran in different languages, and asked me to post it here incase you did not have one. So I am posting it here. I am sure perhaps you have something like this already. But he asked as a favour and with good intent, and I am honouring that request. Someone might move to the most appropriate place as necessary.
God bless and thanks to all again. Salam.
Thank you again Hafya, and if I seemed 'off' today with anyone - misreading and or misunderstanding, as I have done, I apologise. We Irish are too quick tempered ;-) You don't know what 'soul jihad' truly is till you've had to master an Irish temper. LOL ;-)
God bless us all. http://www.alketab.com/ |
|
Gulliver
Senior Member Joined: 12 September 2008 Status: Offline Points: 621 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Just as a matter of curiosity. If I wanted to get a good, reliable, unbaised read on Muhammad, what are the recommendations ?
Thanks again.
|
|
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |