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Nur_Ilahi
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Brother Astroman,
As to your question to this topic - Sufi Remote healing?, here is where you should go to.
Bay'ath thru this website.
Salam.
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Nur_Ilahi
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Hi Chrysalis,
I quote what Ibn Tamiyya said on sufism from the same link above.....
Ibn Taymiyya (661 - 728 AH)
"Tasawwuf has realities and states of experience which they talk about in their science. Some of it is that the Sufi is that one who purifies himself from anything which distracts him from the remembrance of Allah and who will be so filled up with knowledge of the heart and knowledge of the mind to the point that the value of gold and stones will be the same to him. And Tasawwuf is safeguarding the precious meanings and leaving behind the call to fame and vanity in order to reach the state of Truthfulness, because the best of humans after the prophets are the Siddiqeen, as Allah mentioned them in the verse: "(And all who obey Allah and the Apostle) are in the company of those on whom is the grace of Allah: of the prophets, the sincere lovers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous; Ah! what a beautiful fellowship." (an-Nisa', 69,70) "...some people criticised Sufiyya and Tasawwuf and they said they were innovators, out of the Sunnah, but the truth is they are striving in Allah's obedience [mujtahidin fi ta'at-illahi], as others of Allah's People strove in Allah's obedience. So from them you will find the Foremost in Nearness by virtue of his striving [as-saabiq ul-muqarrab bi hasab ijtihadihi]. And some of them are from the People of the Right hand [Ahl al-Yameen mentioned in Qur'an in Sura Waqi'ah], but slower in their progress.... And this is the origin of Tasawwuf. And after that origin, it has been spread and [tasha'abat wa tanawa'at] has its main line and its branches. "The miracles of saints are absolutely true and correct, by the acceptance of all Muslim scholars. And the Qur'an has pointed to it in different places, and the Hadith of the Prophet (s) has mentioned it, and whoever denies the miraculous power of saints are only people who are innovators and their followers." [al-Mukhtasar al-Fatawa, page 603]. Ibn Taymiyya says, "what is considered as a miracle for a saint is that sometimes the saint might hear something that others do not hear and they might see something that others do not see, while not in a sleeping state, but in a wakened state of vision. And he can know something that others cannot know, through revelation or inspiration." |
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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abosait
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Dear brother/sister Nur_Ilahi, Wa alaikum assalam wa Rahmatullah. Please read the following verses from the Qur�an and the translation of their meanings.. قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاء رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا 18:110 Say: "I am
but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your
Allah is one Allah. whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work
righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner. قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَاسْتَقِيمُوا إِلَيْهِ وَاسْتَغْفِرُوهُ وَوَيْلٌ لِّلْمُشْرِكِينَ
His being unlettered until he recieved inspiration was a clear proof that Qur'an was not fabricated by him but was really the word of Allah and Muhammed Sallallahu alaihi wasallam is His messenger in truth. You will learn from the above that Mohammed Sallallahu alaihi wasallam received inspiration and
revelation. And such inspiration was
revealed to Prophets before him also but he being the last of the messengers
Deen has been completed and there will be be no more "direct revelation" Proof of this is in the following verse. Please read the verse
and the translation of its meaning. حُرِّمَتْ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةُ وَالْدَّمُ وَلَحْمُ الْخِنْزِيرِ وَمَا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللّهِ بِهِ وَالْمُنْخَنِقَةُ وَالْمَوْقُوذَةُ وَالْمُتَرَدِّيَةُ وَالنَّطِيحَةُ وَمَا أَكَلَ السَّبُعُ إِلاَّ مَا ذَكَّيْتُمْ وَمَا ذُبِحَ عَلَى النُّصُبِ وَأَن تَسْتَقْسِمُواْ بِالأَزْلاَمِ ذَلِكُمْ فِسْقٌ الْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن دِينِكُمْ فَلاَ تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَاخْشَوْنِ الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الإِسْلاَمَ دِينًا فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ فِي مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لِّإِثْمٍ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
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Nur_Ilahi
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Dear Bro Abosait, As we know there are 3 pillars of Islamic religion.
1. The 5 pillars of Islam
2. The 6 pillars of Iman
3. The 2 pillars of Ihsaan.
Tasawwuf or sufism is in the last of these, Ihsaan.
Perhaps you can elaborate on your idea of Ihsaan.
Salam.
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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In Islam, Ihsaan is the Muslim responsibility to obtain perfection, or excellence, in worship, such that Muslims try to worship God (Arabic Allah)
as if they see Him, and although they cannot see Him(Due to believing
Allah is not made of materials), they undoubtedly believe he is
constantly watching over them. That definition comes from the hadith
(known as the Hadith of Angel Gabriel ) in which Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasallam states,
Edited by abosait - 29 November 2008 at 2:54am |
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Alhamdulillah. You are definitely correct Bro Abosait. I do not think I am able to give a better explanation than yours is. " Ihsaan is the Muslim responsibility to obtain perfection, or excellence, in worship, such that Muslims try to worship God (Arabic Allah) as if they see Him," as if they see Him - This is the state that Muhammad salallahualaihiwassalam, Ali Karamullahiwajhah, the Companions and all the Sufi Masters like Syed Abdul Qadir Jailani, Ar-Rumi, Al-Hallaj and many other waliyullahs had experienced. They had reached a state of perfection or excellence in worship which is not impossible, however difficult it is. When they worship Allah, they are oblivious of everything else, like the state of Ali when he was praying, not feeling any pain whatsoever when the other Sahabahs pulled out the arrow. Shariah is only the outer layer of Islam, while the inner side or the spiritual side, only Tasawwuf can fill in. Shariah can teach us the adab or perfection in our action for example in solah. One has to try to pronounce perfectly the words in Arabic, so as not to change the meaning of the words if we prounounce it wrongly. We are taught to ensure that our attire and the place of our worship should always be clean. The position or action must follow exactly how it was done by Rasulullah but does Shariah taught us to be perfect in our mind, our soul like Rasulullah during our prayers? How many times in our prayers we sometimes think of something else, like - why is my husband or my children not back yet, or perhaps you can smell the cooking of your wife in the kitchen and you saying - oh, she must be cooking the chicken briyani - when at the same time you are uttering the word Allahuakbar in your prayers?
In tasawwuf, this is considered insincere. it is like talking to me yet your eyes were wondering some where else looking at other than me. This is what Tasawwuf is all about. The perfection in us are there. The possibilities and potentials of perfection or excellence in worship are already in each and everyone of us. It us who should be finding it ourselves. I quote from http://www.crescentlife.com/spirituality/seven_levels.htm There is no question that complete potential for perfection is contained within every human being, because Allah Most High has placed His own Divine Secrets in the essence of man, in order to bring from unknown realms into evidence His Beautiful Names and Attributes. But we have forgotten the perfection placed in us before we arrived in the world clad in flesh and bone. Our physical being and its attachment to the world in which it lives, covers and leaves in darkness the beauty and wisdom hidden within us, has made us forget our origin, and left us in a state of ignorance. and although they cannot see Him(Due to believing Allah is not made of materials), they undoubtedly believe he is constantly watching over them. Bro Abosait, This second part of Ihsaan is to believe that Allah is constantly watching us. In other words, whether we sleep, eat or drink, we are never away from Allah's observance. Allah never forgets us, it us human who forget Him. A humble servant of Allah who knows this will always reciprocate by remembering Him in his everyday life by constant Zikrullah. A servant of Allah who understand this second part of ihsaan, will never ever dare to tell lies, to steal, to gossip, to fornicate, to be proud, angry, cheat or any of the blemishes of the heart that is in this link http://www.crescentlife.com/spirituality/blemishes_of_nafs.htm If you read stories about Sufis, you will find out that every single cell in their body is worshipping The Lord of the Whole Universe, in constant zikrullah, because they really understand this second part of Ihsaan. Till next time, Salam. |
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I also wrote: That definition comes from the hadith (known as the Hadith of Angel Gabriel ) in which Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasallam states, "[Ihsaan is] to worship God as though you see Him, and if you cannot see Him, then indeed He sees you." (Al-Bukhari and Al-Muslim). Please click on Hadith of Angel Gabriel to read the Hadith from an authentic Book of Hadith. From your post it appears that you have not bothered to read the Hadith. So here is a copy of the translation in English:
Thus you see that Jebreel (Gabriel), came to the Prophet to teach him and those present, the religion of Islam. If there was any provision for any man made concepts like tasawwuf or Sufism in deen, Allah and His messenger would have told us. On the contrary we have been given the complete deen in the form of Qur'aan and Sunnah leaving no room for any addition or subtraction in the name of perfection. |
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I visited that web page which you have recomended and found the following statement: ".....................good adab which is the greater part of Islam and of Sufism............" I suppose you fail to notice that the authour clearly considers Islam and Sufism as two different beliefs and sites some 68 points commonly desisted by the followers of these two groups. As I told you earlier, a Hindu or a Sikh or a Sufi might be doing some good deeds which have been made compulsory in Islam but that does not entitle you to call the great Islamic scholars by names other than the name Muslim. Edited by abosait - 30 November 2008 at 6:52pm |
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