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Originally posted by astroman astroman wrote:



..................... if I ever believe in GOD and any god for that matter, it is only natural that I need to SEEK GOD......................


But brother Astroman, calling oneself a Muslim means that one follows the Qur'an and the Sunnah and knows that Allah is outside of His creations High above the seven heavens and above the throne as is mentioned in the Qur'an. s/he doesnt go seeking God but tries to worship Him in the way befitting Him as learnt from the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

The religion of Islam is:

(1)free of any dogma or mystical proposition which might make the Quranic doctrine difficult to understand or might even conflict with man�s innate reason;

(2) it avoids all complicated ritual or system of taboos which would impose undue restrictions on mans everyday life;

(3) it rejects all self-mortification and exaggerated asceticism, which must unavoidably conflict with mans true nature and

(4) it takes fully into account the fact that "man has been created weak�� (4:28).

Al-Hajj (The Pilgrimage)
22:78

وَجَاهِدُوا فِي اللَّهِ حَقَّ جِهَادِهِ هُوَ اجْتَبَاكُمْ وَمَا جَعَلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الدِّينِ مِنْ حَرَجٍ مِّلَّةَ أَبِيكُمْ إِبْرَاهِيمَ هُوَ سَمَّاكُمُ الْمُسْلِمينَ مِن قَبْلُ وَفِي هَذَا لِيَكُونَ الرَّسُولُ شَهِيدًا عَلَيْكُمْ وَتَكُونُوا شُهَدَاء عَلَى النَّاسِ فَأَقِيمُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَآتُوا الزَّكَاةَ وَاعْتَصِمُوا بِاللَّهِ هُوَ مَوْلَاكُمْ فَنِعْمَ الْمَوْلَى وَنِعْمَ النَّصِيرُ

And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive, (with sincerity and under discipline).

He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Abraham.

It is He Who has named you Muslims, both before and in this (Revelation); that the Messenger may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind!

So establish regular Prayer, give regular Charity, and hold fast to Allah.

He is your Protector - the Best to protect and the Best to help!


Edited by abosait - 01 December 2008 at 9:01am
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Originally posted by astroman astroman wrote:



................ yet there are another 3 Billion over human beings out there who don't follow us muslims. ..........................


Brother Astroman,

No doubt the sincere ones among those outside the fold of Islam are searching for Truth and are in need of guidance.

But this search (trying to seek Allah) ends where Islam begins. the one who enters the fold of Islam has found the answers to his questions such as "who is Allah" and "Where is Allah" and obeys the command of Allah:

Al-An'am (The Cattle)

قُلْ إِنَّ صَلاَتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ (6:162)

لاَ شَرِيكَ لَهُ وَبِذَلِكَ أُمِرْتُ وَأَنَاْ أَوَّلُ الْمُسْلِمِينَ (6:163)


6:162 Say: "Behold, my prayer, and (all] my acts of worship, and my living and my dying are for God [alone], the Sustainer of all the worlds,

6:163 in whose divinity none has a share: for thus have I been bidden-and I shall [always] be foremost among those who surrender themselves unto Him."




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Dear Abosait

Sincerely are you a lawyer by profession?

Anyway, the very fact that we are all born  muslim and we all know and accepted Allah SWT as our Creator long before we are born in the al'm Malakut (..correct me if I am wrong...). Yet many millions that come into this world are still groping and searching for TRUTH .... GOD... who ever IT is? Millions never ever know or hear  The Almighty name either. So ?
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Originally posted by astroman astroman wrote:


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Be rational to Nur Illahi.
 
 
with all due respect Bro . . . from a completley objective point of view. . . Abosait's points seem more rational compared to Nur's . . .cz atleast they are supported by authentic literature sources and fundamentals of Islam. If nonmuslims were part of this discussion, it would have been a different matter altogether, but as Muslims - the brunt of any religous argument lies on its support of authentic islamic sources. What so-and-so said and what i think/like is not the same as what Hadith or the Quran say.
 
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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."
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Originally posted by astroman astroman wrote:


Dear Abosait

Sincerely are you a lawyer by profession?



No.

Originally posted by astroman astroman wrote:



...................Yet many millions that come into this world are still groping and searching for TRUTH .... GOD... who ever IT is? Millions never ever know or hear  The Almighty name either. So ?

Brother Astroman,

Assalamualaykum.

Though the ongoing subject was about people who make a mockery of the Qur'an and Sunnah and propagate Sufism, the above question cannot be left unattended.

Jazakallahu khair.

The final revelation teaches that all mankind have the recognition of God imprinted on their souls, a part of their very nature with which they are created. (To know about this in detail please read Qur�an, Chapter 7, Verses 172-173)

Just as the child submits to the physical laws which God has put in nature, his soul also submits naturally to the fact that God is his Lord and Creator. But, his parents try to make him follow their own way and the child is not strong enough in the early stages of his life to resist or oppose the will of his parents. The religion which the child follows at this stage is one of custom and upbringing and God Almighty does not hold him to account or punish him for this religion.

Throughout people's lives from childhood until the time they die, signs are shown to them in all regions of the earth and in their own souls, until it becomes clear that there is only one true God. If the people are honest with themselves, reject their false gods and seek God, the way will be made easy for them but if they continually reject God's signs and continue to worship creation, the more difficult it will be for them to escape.

Prophets were sent to every nation and tribe to support man's natural belief in God and man's inborn inclination to worship Him as well as to reinforce the divine truth in the daily signs revealed by God. Although, in most cases, much of the prophets' teachings became distorted, portions remained which point out right and wrong.






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What is Tasawwuf?
Condensed from the writings of Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (may Allah be pleased with him) 

What is Tasawwuf?

"Verily, he who has purified the heart is successful and he who has despoiled it has lost."
 
Many people have misunderstandings about tasawwuf. Many think that it is something beyond the Qur'an and Sunnah. Errant Sufis as well as the superficial ulema, although on the opposite ends of the spectrum, are together in holding this mistaken notion. Consequently the first group has shunned the Qur'an and Hadith while the second group has shunned tasawwuf. Actually, although the term tasawwuf, like many other religious terms in use today, evolved later, the discipline is very much part of the Shariah. The department of the Shariah relating to external deeds like salat and zakat is called fiqh while the one dealing with the internal feelings and states of the heart is called tasawwuf. Both are commanded in the Qur'an. Thus while commanding Salat and Zakat, the Qur'an also commands gratefulness and love of Allah and condemns the evil of pride and vanity. Similarly, in the books of hadith, along with the chapters on Ibadat, trade and commerce, marriage and divorce, are to be found the chapters on riya' (show off) takabbur, akhlaq, etc. These commands are as much a mandatory requirement as the ones dealing with external deeds.

On reflection it will be realized that all the external deeds are designed for the reformation of the heart. That is the basis of success in the hereafter while its despoiling is the cause of total destruction. This is precisely what is known technically as tasawwuf. Its focus is tahzeebe akhlaq or the adornment of character; its motive is the attainment of Divine pleasure; its method is total obedience to the commands of the Shariah.

Tasawwuf is the soul of Islam. Its function is to purify the heart from the lowly bestial attributes of lust, calamities of the tongue, anger, malice, jealousy, love of the world, love of fame, niggardliness, greed, ostentation, vanity, deception, etc. At the same time it aims at the adornment of the heart with the lofty attributes of repentance, perseverance, gratefulness, fear of Allah , hope, abstention, tauheed, trust, love, sincerity, truth, contemplation, etc.

To diagnose and treat the diseases of the heart normally requires the help of an expert teacher or Shaykh. Here are the qualities of a proper Shaykh.

1. He possesses necessary religious knowledge.
2. His beliefs, habits, and practices are in accordance with the Shariah.
3. He does not harbor greed for the worldly wealth.
4. He has himself spent time learning from a proper Shaykh.
5. The scholars and good mashaikh of his time hold good opinion about him.
6. His admirers are mostly from among the people who have good understanding of religion.
7. Most of his followers follow the Shariah and are not the seekers after this world.
8. He sincerely tries to educate and morally train his followers. If he sees anything wrong in them, he corrects it.
9. In his company one can feel a decrease in the love of this world and an increase in the love for Allah (subhanahu wa ta ala).
10. He himself regularly performs dhikr and spiritual exercises.

In searching for a Shaykh, do not look for his ability to perform karamat (miracles) or to foretell the future. A very good Shaykh may not be able to perform any karamat. On the other hand, a person showing karamat does not have to be a pious person --- or even a Muslim. Prominent Sufi Bayazid Bistami says: "Do not be deceived if you see a performer of supernatural feats flying in the air. Measure him on the standard of the Shariah."

When you find the right Shaykh and you are satisfied with his ability to provide spiritual guidance, you perform baya or pledge. This is a two-way commitment; the Shaykh pledges to guide you in light of Shariah and you pledge to follow him. Then the Shaykh will give his murid (student) initial instructions. They include the following:

1. Perform repentance for all the past sins and take steps to make amends, e.g. if any salat has been missed so far in the life, you start making up for it.

2. If you have any unmet financial obligations toward another person make plans to discharge them.

3. Guard your eyes, ears and tongue.

4. Perform dhikr regularly.

5. Start a daily session of self-accounting before going to bed. Review all the good and bad deeds performed during the day. Repent for the bad ones and thank Allah (subhanahu wa ta ala for the good ones.

6. Perform muraqaba-maut (meditation over death) every night before going to bed. Just visualize that you have died. Reflect upon the pangs of death, the questioning in the grave, the plain of Resurrection, the Reckoning , the presence in the Court of Allah, subhanahu wa ta ala, etc. This helps bring softness to the heart and break the tendency to commit sins.

7. Develop humility. Even if you observe another individual committing the worst of vices you should not despise him/her, nor should you consider yourself nobler. It is very much possible that the perpetrator of the vice may resort to sincere repentance while the one who despised the sinner become ensnared in the traps of nafs and Shaytan. One has no certainty regarding one's end. One, therefore has no basis for regarding another with contempt.

The essential idea of tahzeebe akhlaq is to bring our natural faculties in a state of balance. The three basic faculties are anger, desires, and intelligence.

Anger: When in equilibrium it results in valor, forbearance, steadfastness, the ability to restrain anger, and dignity. Excess will result in rashness, boastfulness, pride, inability to restrain anger, and vanity. A deficiency will result in cowardice, disgrace and feelings of inferiority.

Desires: Equilibrium here results in chastity, generosity, haya (decency), patience and contentment. Its excess leads to greed and lust. The other extreme results in narrow-mindedness, impotence, etc.

Intelligence: Equilibrium here makes man wise, sharp-witted and one with great insights. Excess here makes one deceptive, fraudulent and an impostor. Its lack results in ignorance and st**idity with the consequence that such a person is quickly misled.

A person will be considered as having a beautiful character only when these faculties are in the state of balance and equilibrium. Internal beauty varies with people just as external beauty does. The possessor of the most beautiful seerah was Prophet Muhammad, Sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. The beauty of our seerah is based on its closeness to his seerah. Condensed from the writings of Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi.

Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Assalamualaikum Chrysalis,
 
I know I lacked quoting the Quran and Hadiths, it is not that there is not any to back up my claim, but I do not have the time to search for  it. InshaAllah, when time permits, I will produce some for your satisfaction.
 
Please read my long post above. Find and search in any of the above article anything that is against the Quran or Sunnah. Actually the proofs are all within ourselves. It is whether we want to accept it or not. Tasawwuf is mostly avoided by Muslims because it is trying to control our Nafs - The Ego/Desire/Passion/Lust which is one of our greatest enemy.
 
I will give another basic information about Tasawwuf. Read carefully and see whether it is applicable to you or not. If it is not, maybe then I am wrong.
 
On Being a Human Being

Shaykh Tosun Bayrak al-Jerrahi al-Halveti

Oh the seeker who wishes to learn the chemistry of secrets and follow the path of the ones who have found salvation! If you wish to know yourself, know that the One who created you has created you with two sides. One is your outside and the other is your inside.: Your outside is visible, it is your form. Your inside is sometimes called your ego, sometimes your soul, sometimes your heart. Your truth is inside of you. Your outside, your eyes, your hands, your feet . . . . are the servants of your inside. Your heart is the center of it. It is not the piece of meat on the left side of your chest, because animals, even dead people have it. It is a piece of meat which is visible. Everything which is visible belongs to this world. The heart, the soul, which is the center of your inner being, is invisible, but to it, the beauty of the truth is visible. All the rest of your physical being is its servant. What Allah addresses, His obligations, His prohibitions, His rewards and His punishments are all to your inner self. But when the heart is addressed, when it obeys or it revolts, all the rest of you follows it. To know it is the key to knowing your Lord.

Try to learn it, find it and be with it. It is also created and made out of matter, but of fine matter, from the same material which the angels are made of. When the beloved of Allah, our master says: "I am made from the divine light of Allah and the believers generate from me." He means with the divine light, that material which your heart is made of.

Know that your heart has come from the invisible higher realms of the angels, close to your Lord and has descended to the ruins of this world to be tested and will soon return to its Lord. http://www.crescentlife.com/spirituality/being_human.htm 

By the way Chrysalis, do you realise that we are communicating via our 'inside"?

Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Dear Nur Illahi

Thank you for your time and to all too. I originally was looking for "sufi remote healing?" I have been analysing that the issues exploded from this discussions were focussing on the issues of whether Sufi as practiced by many muslims is Islamic or otherwise. I am no authority on this subject. I and my family stand to our proclaimation of our shahadah, Al Quran is our ultimate book of reference ("not a dot is added or taken off") and abiding to Sunah RasulAllah. What ever we do, we are answerable to Allah SWT here and the hereafter. Wish not to continue this subject which leads me nowhere. If others wish to continue, please do so but please do not deviate from the basic fudamentals of Islam! The Sahadah, Al Quran and Sunah rasulAllah. Good bye and Assalamualaikum

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