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astroman 
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 Posted: 04 December 2008 at 5:55am |
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Who is it that is reading my posts without opening the mouth or moving the tongue? Who is it that could hear my words? Is it your ears? Who is it that is looking at my words now? Is it your eyes? Who is it that enables your fingers to type on the keyboard? Is it your hands? Who? '/QUOTE'
Sister Nur Illahi
I must say you are more 'knowledgeable' that most of us and you only know what I meant. Sister, 'Dont waste time, you can be misintrepreted'. 
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Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:57am |
 astroman wrote:
Sister Nur Illahi
I must say you are more 'knowledgeable' that most of us and you only know what I meant. Sister, 'Dont waste time, you can be misintrepreted'. |
Thanks Astroman.
I think, will just leave it at this.
till next time...
Assalamualaikum
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted: 05 December 2008 at 7:30am |
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Posted: 05 December 2008 at 5:21pm |
abosait wrote:
Nur_Ilahi wrote:
- Who is it that is reading my posts without opening the
mouth or moving the tongue?
- Who is it that could hear my words? Is it your ears?
- Who is it that is looking at my words now? Is it your
eyes?
- Who is it that enables your fingers to type on the
keyboard? Is it your hands?
- Who?
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Answers:
1. It�s
me.
2. No.
I can�t hear you, Nur Ilahi, unless u speak to me from an audible distance or use some artificial means of audio transfer.
3. It�s
me looking with my eyes.
4. Of-course.
5. Me.
Who else?
The
human self is referred to as �Nafs� in the Qur�an and it consists of a soul
within a physical body. Both soul and the body are creations of Allah Subhanahu
wa ta�alaa.
Imam
Ibn Al-Qayyim wrote in his scholarly work �Kitab al Ruh�,
�Ruh� is an entity which differs totally
from the physical body.
It is a subtle,
ecclesiastical, enlightened living and moving body which penetrates into the
depths of the organs and flows into them like the water in the rose or the oil
in the olive or the fire in the coal.
As long as these organs
remain able to accept the impressions of this subtle body, the 'Ruh' remains
attached to these organs and provides them with feeling and movement.
But when these organs are
spoiled because of the dominance of diseased elements upon it, and they are no
longer able to accept the impressions of the soul, it leaves the body and heads
towards the world of the souls.
Allah
Almighty says about the last moments on this earth of a dying person:
�
"Then why do you not intervene when
the soul (of the dying man) reaches the throat.
�
And
you are at that time looking .
�
We are nearer to him , but you do not see.
�
And why do you not, if you are exempt from
accountability, call back the soul if you are truthful?."
(Soorah Al-Waqiah v 83-87)
The
dying man experiences things which cannot be comprehended by the people around
him. As his soul leaves his body through his nostrils, his eyes follow his
soul. For this reason, the Prophet (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) advised the
people to close the eyes of the deceased to make his appearance less ghastly.
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Nur_Ilahi
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Posted: 05 December 2008 at 9:52pm |
Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi
1. Who is it that is reading my posts without opening the mouth or moving the tongue?
It�s me. Where is Me? If you are pointing to your chest, then the chest is 'Me'?
2. Who is it that could hear my words? Is it your ears?
No. I can�t hear you, Nur Ilahi . If you cannot hear me, then how could you understand me?
3. Who is it that is looking at my words now? Is it your eyes?
It�s me looking with my eyes. If your eyes are closed, can you see your beloved someone, like your wife or your children? If the answer is yes, who is looking?
4.Who is it that enables your fingers to type on the keyboard? Is it your hands?
Of-course. Then when you die can your hands type?
5. Who?
Me . The answer is not ME but Ruh.
Ruh is like the electricity to a computer CPU. Even how sophisticated the computer, without electricity it is nothing. Same here with us, without Ruh, we are just a stinking corpse that no one wants to be around with.
1. This is the Ruh that Allah asked when we were in 'Alam Ruh - Alastubirrabikum? Am I not your lord? And we replied - Qaloo - Balaa shahidna - Indeed we witness.
2. This is the same Ruh that Allah plant in our mother's womb in Alam Rahim the second �Alam or Ruh that we had experienced.
3. This is the same Ruh that now are communicating with me another Ruh in Alam Shahadah. The Ruh that enable us to breathe, to eat, to pray and all other daily actions.
4. This is the Ruh that will face Saqaratul Maut in the moments before death in Alam Saqarah. That will catch a glimpse of the beauty of heaven or the heat of hell.
5. This is the same Ruh that will be questioned in the grave like MA RABBUKA? Who is your God? This is the Ruh that will be experiencing the joy of beautiful garden in Alam barzakh, or the tortures of the grave.
6, This is the Ruh that will be answerable to Allah in Alam Mahshar;
7. Lastly this is the Ruh that will enjoy the eternity of heaven or the tortures of hell (nauzubillahiminzalik) in Alam Akhirah.
And how do we make sure that our Ruh is as pure as we were born? By following the 3 pillars of Islamic religion, that is Islam, Iman and Ihsaan.
Assalamualaikum.
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted: 06 December 2008 at 2:26am |
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Assalamulaikum
Sister Nur Illahi
"The answer is not ME but Ruh."
Precisely correct and refer to Surah Al-Hijr Ayah 29.
That is the 'fitrah' that we have to 'care and nurture' dunya and akhirat.
Salam
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Posted: 07 December 2008 at 3:53am |
astroman wrote:
Assalamulaikum
Sister Nur Illahi
"The answer is not ME but Ruh."
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Nur_Ilahi wrote:
1.
If you are pointing to your chest, then
the chest is 'Me'?
2.
If you cannot hear me, then how could you understand me?
3.
If
your eyes are closed, can you see your beloved someone, like your wife or your
children? If the answer is yes, who is looking?
4.
Then
when you die can your hands type?
5.
The
answer is not ME but Ruh.
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Dear Astroman and Nur Ilahi,
That was exactly the
reply I expected from you since you are not the first of the Sufis I am
confronting.
Answers to your
second set of questions:
- The chest in that
case will be �my chest�
- I have added the
words �speak from within audible distance��� Please scroll back and read.
- The answer is NO.
- Impossible.
The fan rotates
if electricity is passed through it. No one would say �the electricity is
rotating� and anyone in his proper senses would say �the fan is rotating�.
�The human self is referred to
as �Nafs� in the Qur�an and it consists of a soul within a physical body. ��
Thus when the
soul is wihin a body the body makes the actions such as seeing, hearing, typing
etc. and not the soul/Ruh as is clear from the following Verse:
الْيَوْمَ نَخْتِمُ عَلَى
أَفْوَاهِهِمْ وَتُكَلِّمُنَا أَيْدِيهِمْ وَتَشْهَدُ أَرْجُلُهُمْ بِمَا كَانُوا
يَكْسِبُونَ (36:65) 36:65 On that Day We
shall set a seal on their mouths but their hands will speak unto Us, and their feet will bear witness
to whatever they have earned [in life].
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Posted: 08 December 2008 at 1:51am |
abosait wrote:
�The human self is referred to as �Nafs� in the Qur�an and it consists of a soul within a physical body. ��
Thus when the soul is wihin a body the body makes the actions such as seeing, hearing, typing etc. and not the soul/Ruh as is clear from the following Verse: |
I do undertand from the 1st part above in bold that NAFS is consists of BODY with RUH in it. But I don't understand the 2nd part Abosait. Can you make it a bit clearer to me. Thanks for your time.
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