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 Posted: 12 December 2008 at 4:29am |
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No place for human opinions / guesswork on the unseen future Allah has full knowledge of the future and a Muslim believes word by word what the Qur'an says. 36:65 On that Day We shall set a seal on their mouths but their hands will speak unto Us, and their feet will bear witness to whatever they have earned [in life]. Edited by abosait - 12 December 2008 at 9:36am |
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Posted: 12 December 2008 at 6:09pm |
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Dear Brother Abosait,
Please read my response very carefully.
You wrote - In this world it is our mouth that speaks, our hands that type, our ears that hear (and not the Ruh). Perhaps you do not realize that without your Ruh, you cannot even move your tongue. If you dig any grave, mostly what can you find? Just skeletons only. Where is the mouth and the tongue and the ears and the eyes? Then who is it that answers Angel Munkar when he asks - Maa Rabbuka? - Who is your God? Maa Imamuka? - Who is your Imam? Maa Deenuka? - What is your religion? Please do not evade this question. This is a very important question because the questioning in the grave is real. Still I dont know why you do not wish to be honoured by the title "Sufi". I will feel very guilty and very deceitful for taking this honour, when in reality, I am far from one. I can lie to others, but I cannot lie to myself. I am just trying to prove that the Ruh is the one that enables us to see, to hear, that have power, the will, the knowledge and is alive. The Ruh that Allah indeed �lent� to us and will be returned to him. Something that is entrusted to us pure when we were born and should be returned to Him as pure as possible. And only Tasawwuf can purify the Ruh or the Soul. As an example, a dead man has a tongue and a mouth, but can he speak? He has a pair of eyes, can he even open it? He has a pair of ears? If you call him, can he answer? He has a brain, but where is the knowledge? If someone like Bush dies, where is his power? Correct. But then why are not they be answerable to Allah? The reason is because they are not given the �aqal or intellect. A monkey of 3000 years ago is still a monkey today. There are many verses in the Quran that reiterates the power of the Soul. Kindly provide reference such as chapter/Ayat number etc.This requires a separate response below. Thanks Nur. You have proved that Sufis belittle the Qur'an and Sunnah. I think it is not the Sufis that belittle AlQuran and AsSunnah, but people like you. I have quoted many verses of The Quran and Hadiths to support the claim that Tasawwuf is part of Islam (Ihsaan), yet you refuse to even ponder about it. Hadith al-Qudsi that Allah has said: "I was a Hidden Treasure, and I longed that I should be known. So I Created creation, that I might be known." لَقَدْ مَنَّ اللَّهُ عَلَى الْمُؤمِنِينَ إِذْ بَعَثَ فِيهِمْ رَسُولاً مِّنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ يَتْلُواْ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَايَـتِهِ وَيُزَكِّيهِمْ وَيُعَلِّمُهُمُ الْكِتَـبَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَإِن كَانُواْ مِن قَبْلُ لَفِى ضَلَـلٍ مُّبِينٍ Now my question to Nur is "if what you say is true has He taken back those 7 sifahs or is He still living without them as He has lent them?" (Astagfirullah). Astaghfirullah! You do not seem to understand the Qudrah and Iradhah of Allah Subhanahuwataala. It is pointless to talk to you about Sufism, when you do not even know the basic source of Tasawwuf that is Ihsaan. "You talk about loving God while you disobey Him; |
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted: 12 December 2008 at 6:23pm |
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فَإِذَا سَوَّيْتُهُ وَنَفَخْتُ فِيهِ مِن رُّوحِى فَقَعُواْ لَهُ سَـجِدِينَ
So, when I have fashioned him completely and breathed into him (Adam) of My spirit (the soul which I created for him,) then fall down, prostrating yourselves before him.''
Levels of the Nafs 1. Nafs-i-Ammara, the Commanding Nafs Behold! The commanding nafs encourages evil, except when my Lord bestows mercy. (Qur'an 12:53) وَمَآ أُبَرِّىءُ نَفْسِى إِنَّ النَّفْسَ لأَمَّارَةٌ بِالسُّوءِ Traits: narcissistic, mechanical, conditioned, non-reflective, impulsive. Habits: pride, enmity, cruelty, lust, stinginess. But I swear by the accusing nafs that this Scripture is true. (Qur'an 75:2) وَلاَ أُقْسِمُ بِالنَّفْسِ اللَّوَّامَةِ Traits: conscience, capacity for self-observation. Habits: backbiting, trickery, conceitedness, hypocrisy, self-consciousness, guilt, fearfulness, wishful thinking, intense desire to please others. And a nafs and Him who gave order to it and inspired it with a sense of what is wrong for it and what is right for it. (Qur'an 91:8) فَأَلْهَمَهَا فُجُورَهَا وَتَقْوَاهَاTraits: generosity, gratitude, modesty, empathy, ardent desire. Habits: liberality lacking discrimination, mystical inflation, tendency toward spiritual greed. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To the righteous soul will be said, "O, you nafs in complete peace and satisfaction!" (Qur'an 89:27) يأَيَّتُهَا النَّفْسُ الْمُطْمَئِنَّةُ Traits: dignity, sincerity, courage, compassion, complete loyalty. Habits: Attachment to spiritual ambition. Return to your Lord, content (Qur'an 89:28) ارْجِعِى إِلَى رَبِّكِ رَاضِيَةً مَّرْضِيَّةً Traits: endurance, resignation, constancy. Habits: personal identification with affliction. for His being pleased with you! (Qur'an 89:28) ارْجِعِى إِلَى رَبِّكِ رَاضِيَةً مَّرْضِيَّةً Traits: knowledge of Allah, sincerity, unbounded faith and hope in existential communion. Habits: mystical intoxication, lack of sobriety and balance. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favor to you, and have chosen for you as your religion Islam. (Qur'an 5:3) الْيَوْمَ يَئِسَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ مِن دِينِكُمْ فَلاَ تَخْشَوْهُمْ وَاخْشَوْنِ الْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِى وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الأِسْلاَمَ دِيناً فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ فِى مَخْمَصَةٍ غَيْرَ مُتَجَانِفٍ لإِثْمٍ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ Traits: freedom from duality, acceptance of Allah's will, joy of union, freedom from expectation, contentment. Habits: None remaining. http://www.crescentlife.com/spirituality/fighting_the_enemy_within.htm |
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Ilahi Anta Maksudi, Wa Redhaka Mathlubi - Oh Allah, You are my destination, Your Pleasure is my Intention.
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Posted: 13 December 2008 at 1:33am |
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As far as I can see only three of the verses quoted by you deal with Nafs. You have not provided transl;ation of the meanings of most of the verses. The verse number/chapter is necessary because a verse cannot be understood if taken in isolation in most cases. The verses prceding and following should be read to know the context and to understand the meaning. Moreover the Hadith related to those verses will be necessary to understand the meaning as understood by the Sahaba. Further I would like to remind you that making your own interpretations picking out individual verses/fragments of a verse out of context will most likely lead you far far away from the Truth. Edited by abosait - 13 December 2008 at 1:35am |
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Posted: 13 December 2008 at 2:14am |
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The Different States of Each Nafs: 1. NAFS AL-MUTAMAINNA - the Satisfied Soul. "0 you satisfied soul. Return to your Lord pleased with yourself and pleasing to Him. Enter among My servants. And enter My paradise".(Soorah Al Fajr (89) :27-30)
"And I do not free myself from blame. Indeed the human self is inclined to evil, except when my Lord bestows His Mercy (upon whom He wills). Indeed my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful." (Soorah Yusuf v 53) 3. NAFS AL LAWWAMA - the Self-reproaching soul. "I do call to witness the Resurrection Day. And I do call to witness the self-reproaching Soul." (Soorah Al Qiyamah v 1-2)
And between these two extreme states is the self-reproaching soul which checks its actions and blames itself when it commits evil. Most souls hover between these different states depending on the person's faith and actions. 1. Nafs Mutmainna: The Qur'aan explains how one can achieve the noble state
of the satisfied soul. "Indeed, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find satisfaction." (Soorah Al-Ra'd (12): 28)
If the evil-inspiring soul finds solace in music, dance and its paraphernalia, the satisfied soul finds its peace and consolation in the Qur'aan, prayer and the company of the righteous. The satisfied soul has such a deep conviction in Allah and the Last Day that never is it upset by the sorrows or demands of this world.
During his return from a Jihad expedition, the Prophet (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) once sat down to rest under the shade of a tree far from his devout companions.
Whenever it faces any problems it simply say, "To Allah we belong and to Him we shall return" and faces the misfortune with patience and trust in its Lord. Such are the souls described in
the Qur'aan; "Be sure, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, some loss of goods or lives or fruits of your toils. But give glad tidings to those who are patient. Those who say, when afflicted by calamity: 'To Allah we belong and to Him we shall return'." (Soorah Al Baqarah (2): 155-156)
It therefore feels no need to lament at misfortunes or to boast at
success. "No misfortune can happen on earth or to your soul but it is written in a decree before We bring it into existence. That is truly easy for Allah. In order that you may not despair over matters that pass you by, nor exult in favors bestowed upon you, for Allah loves not the vain boasters.' (Soorah Al Hadid (57): 22-23)
If it fails to acquire something
for which it has struggled for many years, it will accept its destiny and
remember the following words of the Prophet of Allah (sallallahu alaihe
wa-sallam) : "What has reached you was never meant to escape you and what has escaped you was never meant to reach you." (Muwadih by Al-Khateeb Al-Baghdadi)
It relies heavily for support on the branches
of faith, the highest of which is to say and believe in "There is no god worthy
of worship except Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah", and the
lowliest of which is to remove an obstacle from the path. Angels are present to
strengthen this soul and to bless and greet it when it departs this material
life, when it is resurrected and when it is admitted into the gardens of
paradise. Their greeting to it is the greeting of a Muslim to his fellow Muslim: "Peace be unto you"; "And those who feared their Lord will be led to the Paradise in crowds; until they arrive there, its gates are opened and its keepers will say: 'Peace be upon you! Well have you done. Enter here and dwell forever'." (Soorah Az Zumar (39) 73)
"The one who withdraws himself from the remembrance of the Merciful, We appoint for him a satan to be a companion to him." (Soorah Az-Zukhruf (43)" 36)
You will see it lying and cheating, wasting time on
leisure and sports, frequenting cinemas and concerts, listening to music and
dancing. As one contemporary writer said, "The godless society's motto is 'work and play', while the motto of the god-conscious society is, 'work and pray; "!
These feelings of
remorse cause it to turn back to Allah, to repent sincerely, and to receive
spiritual solace. It is better for each Nafs to blame itself whenever it commits
a wrong. If not, it will find itself being blamed from all those around it. Consider how the self-reproaching soul is mentioned with the Day of Resurrection
in the Qur'aan.
The Nafs al Lawwama is an inner court of justice within each
person; when he acts wrongfully. his conscience or soul reprimands him, and it
is then up to him to pay heed to it or to ignore it. Besides placing an inner court of justice within each person, the Creator has also prepared a larger Court which will operate on the Final Day and will mete out justice to all of mankind. Edited by abosait - 13 December 2008 at 2:30am |
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Posted: 13 December 2008 at 3:31am |
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Did you compile all of this yourself Abosait?
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� The souls of all people, believers and unbelievers, are taken up to the heavens at the time of death by angels and presented to Allah Almighty. �
The record of the believer�s deeds is placed in
a high place in heaven called Illiyyin and the sinner�s record is thrown
into the lowest earth known as Sijjin. � "Nay! Truly the record of the evil-doers is preserved in Sijjin. And what will explain to you what Sijjin is? A register inscribed. Nay! Truly the record of the pious is preserved in Illiyyin. And what will make you know what Illiyyin is? A Register inscribed. To which bear witness those nearest to Allah (i.e. the angels).? (Soorah Al-Mutaffifin v 7-9, 18-21) �
The souls are returned to their bodies temporarily
for questioning by the angels. � When the soul returns, the dead person is able to hear the retreating footsteps of the men who came to bury him. This is an exception to the general rule in the Qur'aan that the dead cannot hear the living. �
�Verily, you cannot make the dead to hear, nor
can you make the deaf hear the call when they flee, turning their backs.�
(Surah An Naml v 80) �
The blessed soul is taken to the heavens where
it is changed into a bird and eats freely from the fruits in paradise. It rests
in a state of peaceful sleep while the cool breezes of paradise flow gently
over it. In contrast is the sinner�s soul, which is thrown with contempt into
the lowest earth to feel the savage heat and stench of hell. Both kinds of soul
reside in the same places as their Records of deeds.
The torture of the grave is for the soul (Ruh), but if Allah Wills, it can also be felt by the body. The human body has to decay and decompose into the ground, but as the punishment of the grave is for the soul, it can continue until the Last Day. Thus the false theory of Suufis that the soul will merge back into the creator is disproved. |
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Posted: 13 December 2008 at 5:36am |
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Dear Abosait,
This post of yours is very good. Very good indeed. It is not contradicting Tasawwuf at all , but instead it is confirming it. And for that, I will say Jazakallahu khairan.
However these explanations did not delve deeply as to how we achieve from level to the next. Just as the command for prayers is in the Quran, however the time for each prayer was not stated. Jibril came down to teach Muhammad how to pray and when to pray.
So is tasawwuf. Rasulullah prayed till his legs became swollen and he was oblivious of it. Ali prayed and did not feel the effect of any pain from removing the arrow, Abu Bakar wept constantly when he prays. These were proof that they were practising Ihsaan - to worship Allah as if you see Him, if not He definitely sees you.
Abosait, if you say that Tasawwuf is bidaah, then you obviously are accusing Rasulullah, Ali bin Abi Talib, Abu Bakar, all the sufi masters like Abdul Qadir Jailani, Hassan Albasri, Rabiatul Adawiyah, Ar-Rumi, AlHallaj and many others as bidaah too.
I just hope that one day you will find the beauty of Tasawwuf because you can only feel the beauty of it thru personal experience with Allah Subhanahuwataala.
That is why Tasawwuf is a reality.
Assalamualaikum warahmatullahiwabarakatuh.
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