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A lot has been said about Sufism- and lot of people have actually deviated from truth in explaining Sufism- going so far as to label it a Bidaah- a term used to describe any un-Islamic practice that is being faultily linked to the religion of Islam.

A lot of those who strive to know what it really means to have inner peace and enjoy ultimate state of spiritual tranquility would like to gain insight into what Sufism entails.

The most commonly used explanation of the practice is that the term Sufism is derived from the word Suf, or wool in Arabic, referring to the primitive material of cloaks early Muslim ascetics used to wear, an emphasis of the Sufi followers� rejection of the growing materialism of life.

Other scholars, in explaining Sufism, suggested that the word originated from the Arabic word Safa, stressing the process of spiritual purification and purgation of heart and soul a Sufi experiences.

There�s yet a third explanation to the term Sufism, offered by Al-Biruni, a 10th century Persian Muslim scientist, physicist, astronomer, chemist, historian, geographer,  mathematician,  and philosopher, who linked the word �Sufeya� to Sophia, or �wisdom� in Greek � But this explanation was refuted by the vast majority of  present Sufi scholars.

Bottom line, Sufism is not a cult or a sect that is separable from Islam as some mistakenly believe, it�s simply a practice of devotion linked to one�s (a Muslim�s) pursuit of the Traiqat (or path) to Allah through love, contemplation, and meditation. A Sufi�s heart is always occupied with Allah (SWT) and nothing but Allah, and this what the Almighty refers to as �Ihsan�.

To attain this goal, a Sufi is in a constant state of inner peace and harmony with his spiritual being, seeking the Ultimate Truth  and particular closeness to the Almighty, and this experience of devotion is what takes him eventually beyond this physical existence.

The Sufi doctrine and practice is usually referred to by scholars as the mystical branch of Islam.

At first Sufism sprang in a place near Iraq. Almost all traditional Sufi scholars or teachers trace their Tariqas or schools and so-called chains of transmission back to our beloved Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) through Imam Ali Ibn Abi Talib, his cousin and son-in-law, but there�s one Sufi school, named Naqshbandi that traces its origin to Abu Bakr Al Siddiq. Later on, as it is commonly believed, the practice of Tasawwof or Sufism, quickly spread throughout different parts of the Arab region, including countries that had been ruled by the Byzantines.

Moreover, some scholars explained that  �Ahl Al Suffa�  are originally some of the companions of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) who decided to dedicate much of their lives to fasting, praying and pleading for salvation.

But corruption among present Sufi schools or Tariqas shouldn�t be overlooked or downplayed. There are Sufi schools, the masters of which defend deviant beliefs that have no links to Islam and actually elevated themselves to the state of Saints and Gods.

Allah describes such people in the Qur�an saying:

�Surely, those whom you invoke besides All�h are slaves like you. So invoke them and let them answer you if you are truthful.� (Qur�an 7:194)



Edited by Nur_Ilahi - 21 December 2008 at 6:30pm
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I think let stop quoting and quoting from other sources.
 
Tasawwuf is actually the spiritual experiences between a Muslim with Allah.
 
Let us go to the basics.
 
In your years of studying, (Alhamdulillah), you had come across teachings of the 5 pillars of Islam and reads lots of books on shahadah, solah, saum, zakah and hajj.
And of course the 6 pillars of iman too.
 
What about the two pillars of Ihsaan. Have you read any books that were written on this subject? I am sure there are lots of it, because it is the third pillar of Islamic religion. Must be very important because Jibril sent down the hadith infront of many of the companions of Rasulullah.
 
If so, please elaborate on your understanding or any explanation in any books on this very important aspect of Ihsaan and most importantly how to achieve it.
 
Thank you and Salamalaikum.
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Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

 
................Must be very important because Jibril sent down the hadith infront of many of the companions of Rasulullah................
 
 
 
Nur, that statement from you is false because,
 
Jibril:in Islām, the archangel who acts as intermediary between God and man and as bearer of revelation to the Prophets.

In Islamic terminology, the term hadith refers to reports about the statements or actions of Prophet Mohammed Sallallahu alaihi wasallam or about his tacit approval of something said or done in his presence.

Therefore it is clear that Jibreel never sent down any Hadith.

 

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Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

 
................Must be very important because Jibril sent down the hadith infront of many of the companions of Rasulullah................
 
 
 
Nur, that statement from you is false because,
 
Jibril:in Islām, the archangel who acts as intermediary between God and man and as bearer of revelation to the Prophets.

In Islamic terminology, the term hadith refers to reports about the statements or actions of Prophet Mohammed Sallallahu alaihi wasallam or about his tacit approval of something said or done in his presence.

Therefore it is clear that Jibreel never sent down any Hadith.

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Alright. Perhaps I did put it slightly wrong. But the fact still remains that this hadith was witnessed by many of his companions. Can you deny that? You are only concentrating on the little error of mine, yet the big issue of Ihsaan which Jibril put to Muhammad and Muhammad�s reply, you seem to ignore totally. Why?

Abosait, you will never know the meaning of Tasawwuf, until you have no other thoughts except Allah when you say the takbirratul ihram. Haram for all other thoughts except Him.

You do not know the meaning of tasawwuf until you feel the Greatness of Allah and how tiny you are when you recite Allahuakbar in all the takbir in your solah.

You will not know tasawwuf until you cry of gratitude just by reciting Bismillahirahmanirrahim. How gracious and how Merciful Allah is.

You will not understand tasawwuf, until you weep reciting Iyyaka na�budu waiyyaka nastain � how much we need Allah in our lives.

You will not understand tassawwuf until you sob silently when you recite the Qunut.

You will not understand tasawwuf until you feel the gratitude towards our beloved Prophet Muhammad salallahualaihiwassalam when you say the tashahud in your prayers.

You will not understand tasawwuf, until you feel the yearning for Allah, sobbing, weeping in your solah.

You will not know what is tasawwuf, until you cannot swallow the food that Allah had given you due to a lump feeling in your throat because of acknowledging Allah's love.
 
You will not know what is tasawwuf until you see a woman feeding her child with love and this sight bringing tears to your eyes, thankful to Allah for His love that He gave each and everyone of us.
 
Until this happens, Abosait, you will never know what tasawwuf is all about.

 

 

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Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

.........Abosait, you will never know the meaning of Tasawwuf, until you have no other thoughts except Allah when you say the takbirratul ihram. Haram for all other thoughts except Him..........

Nur, that statement of yours clearly shows how near your thoughts are to the belief of  the Hindu sect called Eishwari Vidyalaya.
But in Islam you are supposed to have presence of mind and concentrate on each word you utter and pronounce it meaningfully.
See the takbirratul ihram and the translation of its meaning:
  • Labbaik Allahumma Labbaik.
  • Labbaik Laa Shareeka Laka Labbaik
  • Innal Hamda Wannimata laka walmulk
  • Laa Shareeka Lak
  • �I respond to Your call my Lord I respond to You,
  • there is no diety save You.
  • All praise, grace and dominion belong to You.
  • You have no partners."
Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

Ihsaan which Jibril put to Muhammad and Muhammad�s reply, you seem to ignore totally. Why?

The Prophet Sallallahu alaihi wasallam replied to Jibreel,
�Al Ihsaan (Virtue�doing what is beautiful)�means that you should worship God as if you see Him, for even if you do not see Him, He sees you.�
But you have stated in one of your posts I quote,

Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

A Sufi�s heart is always occupied with Allah (SWT) and nothing but Allah, and this what the Almighty refers to as �Ihsan�




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Abosait, you once said - Thanks Nur. You have proved that Sufis belittle the Qur'an and Sunnah.
I think it is not me or the mureeds of tasawwuf that is belittling Quran and Sunnah, but people like you. Obviously you have no idea about ihsaan. Nothing at all.
 
Just to recap, Ihsaan is as important as solah in the five pillars of Islam, or believing in Allah (God of the whole universe) in the pillars of Iman. And we know that there are maybe millions of books in solah and the five pillars of Islam, yet not many Muslims know about books of tasawwuf which is all about Ihsan. Tsk..tsk...tsk ....so sad indeed.
 
�Al Ihsaan (Virtue�doing what is beautiful)�means that you should worship God as if you see Him, for even if you do not see Him, He sees you.�
A Sufi�s heart is always occupied with Allah (SWT) and nothing but Allah, and this what the Almighty refers to as �Ihsan�

Only when you learn tasawwuf from the Authentic Sufi Masters, will you then understand what the above quotes meant. To understand these meanings above, the least requirement is sincerity, honesty, humility, love and many other beautiful traits of a human soul.

I hope this will be my last post, as I am not comfortable debating with someone who deny tasawwuf which is the science of Ihsaan.
 
Salam alaikum.


Edited by Nur_Ilahi - 24 December 2008 at 2:30am
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Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

A Sufi�s heart is always occupied with Allah (SWT) and nothing but Allah, and this what the Almighty refers to as �Ihsan�

Please provide proof as to where the Almighty refers to Ihsan or the Sufi's heart.

And Nur, you have posted a parallel statement from yourself along with the Hadith of the Prophet Sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

This is what the Prophet said:


�Al Ihsaan (Virtue�doing what is beautiful)�means that you should worship God as if you see Him, for even if you do not see Him, He sees you"
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Originally posted by abosait abosait wrote:

Originally posted by Nur_Ilahi Nur_Ilahi wrote:

A Sufi�s heart is always occupied with Allah (SWT) and nothing but Allah, and this what the Almighty refers to as �Ihsan�

Please provide proof as to where the Almighty refers to Ihsan or the Sufi's heart.

And Nur, you have posted a parallel statement from yourself along with the Hadith of the Prophet Sallallahu alaihi wasallam.

This is what the Prophet said:


�Al Ihsaan (Virtue�doing what is beautiful)�means that you should worship God as if you see Him, for even if you do not see Him, He sees you"
 
Nur Ilahi,
 
It is almost two years and you have not replied to the above post.


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