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calvindamenace 
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 Posted: 25 February 2010 at 7:41am |
Well okay, here are the posts that I haven't gotten answers to: 1.Page 6, Posted: 21 February 2010 at 10:18pm and 2.Page 7, Posted: 24 February 2010 at 6:00am. Thanks
P.S. Seeks, you never plucked your eyebrows? Really?  Also, I could argue with you about meaning of this verse "And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, shun it." [Al-Hashr (59):7], all it says is do what is allowed and don't what's not, you and scholars (one of them is ‘Abdull�h Ibn Mas’�d) on an other side try to make it more complicated then it really is.
Edited by calvindamenace - 25 February 2010 at 8:01am
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martha
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 9:35am |
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Salams Seeks,
I have read the above link. What exactly is your point?
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some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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martha
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 10:11am |
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Seeks,
I appreciate your time and effort, but really it is not helping. You, and not you alone, prefer to rely on unreliable hadiths. Really sister, that is fine, but I chose not to.
We can continue backwards and forwards discussing these issues but they will help us little.
I go to various sources to gain as much info as possible. ANd I have come to the conclusion that I am fine to follow the course I am taking.
If that offends you then my apologies, but I still prefer to follow my God as I see fit. I would rather be a goat than follow the flock of sheep that goes over the cliff.
May you be blessed for your efforts.
Assalam alaikum.
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some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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Hayfa
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 10:35am |
Seeks, I appreciate your time and effort, but really it is not helping. You, and not you alone, prefer to rely on unreliable hadiths. Really sister, that is fine, but I chose not to. We can continue backwards and forwards discussing these issues but they will help us little. I go to various sources to gain as much info as possible. ANd I have come to the conclusion that I am fine to follow the course I am taking. If that offends you then my apologies, but I still prefer to follow my God as I see fit. I would rather be a goat than follow the flock of sheep that goes over the cliff.
Hey Martha,
I don't think you are any different than anyone else, ultimately, most people are trying to do the "right thing." I have seen very good Muslims do something that may not be "acceptable." They came to their own conclusions either based upon acurate or inaccurate information. And really it comes down to INTENTION. Ultimately Allah knows what was a person's intention.
Its like for you and I, not being a native Arabic speaker or being a scholar, we only do so much based upon reason. And there are people far, far more challenged in this regard then us- we ca nat least read a translation, some people cannot read anything.
Have you learned any more about the Schools?" These are based upon well thought out, well researched and consistent knowledge. We avergae folks are so limited in our knowledge is comparison.
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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi
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martha
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 11:21am |
Hi Hayfa,
Thanks for the words :) You're right , it ultimately comes down to intention (good of course)
AM trying to learn about good schools. Will get there eventually I guess 
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some of us are a lot like cement:- all mixed up and permanently set
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seekshidayath
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 6:43pm |
 martha wrote:
Salams Seeks,
I have read the above link. What exactly is your point? |
Wa'laikum salaam.
Sis, my intention of sharing that link was to let you know the importance of following hadith. You insisted that Qur'an is complete and there's no need of following hadith. So was it.
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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seekshidayath
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 6:50pm |
Sis Hayfa, thanks for your post. I don't understand why martha changed like that. That really worried me. Its a big deviation when people say that only Qur;an shud be followed. {You must be knowing of that group - Rashad Khilafa} I was trying my best to convey her that hadith are also important to understand Qur'an. She also denies the importance of reaching out scholars {I mean studying them}. If i would have mentioned those scholars as madhabs or school of thoughts, then again she would get confused and stubborn with her thoughts.
Anyways, am glad that she is trying to learn more and more. Insha Allah, this journey of gaining knowledge shall make her get more experiences and sound knowledge. Ameen.
Am sorry Martha if i sounded tough to you in my last post. But i had to be so. So you at other discussions, insha Allah 
Edited by seekshidayath - 25 February 2010 at 6:55pm
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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: �All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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calvindamenace
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Posted: 25 February 2010 at 7:46pm |
Hm.. so many muslims and not so many answers. Still waiting on my answers seekshidayath.. or anyone else.
P.S.
seekshidayath wrote:
You insisted that Qur'an is complete .. |
At least we got some kind of an answer to "Are you saying Quran is incomplete" out of this quote, don't you think? 
Edited by calvindamenace - 25 February 2010 at 8:50pm
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