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Interesting turn of events! This isn't about some koran burning or lybian rant, this is about how my stay here was. I remember in the beginning how I was accused of being some banned member, a troll, and some covert Zionist. Regardless of those false accusations I took it in stride, but I really am bothered by not learning.

As for the one who asked me about US history? Yes. I know about history. But if you're going to put the US on trial as well as Christianity or Judaism, let us put Islam on trial as it didn't have a far better and more peaceful history either.

My point is I did come to learn and more often I was just bombarded with accusations, conspiracies, US/Jewish hatred.

Frankly this website isn't really fair when it comes to protection.of other religions. I remembering making a derogatory statement about Christianity with no punishment, yet if someone remarks against islam negatively there is always moderation. I think if people are guided by Islamic principles and if and only if islam is indeed just, even simple computer needs that claim to be muslim should reflect those principles.

I really haven't had much time to blog but when I do I am on another site. I am sure its against forum rules to advertise other sites so I will say if you want to know just pm me. I will occasionally come back here time to time but I think my motivation to learn Islam has ran out of gas here.

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Watlow Batavia did just fine law suit or no law suit if you like to know!
What part of the word employee  the employees of  Watlow Batavia didn't understand? Weren't they suppose to know and speak the language on their paychecks at least unless they were bunch of dummkopfs to begin with...





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Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

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Watlow Batavia did just fine law suit or no law suit if you like to know!
What part of the word employee  the employees of  Watlow Batavia didn't understand? Weren't they suppose to know and speak the language on their paychecks at least unless they were bunch of dummkopfs to begin with...



 
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Originally posted by IssaEl999 IssaEl999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

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Watlow Batavia did just fine law suit or no law suit if you like to know!
What part of the word employee  the employees of  Watlow Batavia didn't understand? Weren't they suppose to know and speak the language on their paychecks at least unless they were bunch of dummkopfs to begin with...



 
Never Argue With An *****. They Drag You Down To Their Level Then Beat You With Experience.

You got put down by the software for whatever expletive you used, that should be enough experience for starters...LOL
No matter how hard you try to be a smart Alec; doesn't work on the internet debate coz it is like running of the Special Olympics; even if you win are still  considered a social retard! So let me make this crystal clear I am not here to win! capisce amigo!Wink

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Originally posted by Gibbs Gibbs wrote:

Interesting turn of events! This isn't about some koran burning or lybian rant, this is about how my stay here was. I remember in the beginning how I was accused of being some banned member, a troll, and some covert Zionist. Regardless of those false accusations I took it in stride, but I really am bothered by not learning.

As for the one who asked me about US history? Yes. I know about history. But if you're going to put the US on trial as well as Christianity or Judaism, let us put Islam on trial as it didn't have a far better and more peaceful history either.

My point is I did come to learn and more often I was just bombarded with accusations, conspiracies, US/Jewish hatred.

Frankly this website isn't really fair when it comes to protection.of other religions. I remembering making a derogatory statement about Christianity with no punishment, yet if someone remarks against islam negatively there is always moderation. I think if people are guided by Islamic principles and if and only if islam is indeed just, even simple computer needs that claim to be muslim should reflect those principles.

I really haven't had much time to blog but when I do I am on another site. I am sure its against forum rules to advertise other sites so I will say if you want to know just pm me. I will occasionally come back here time to time but I think my motivation to learn Islam has ran out of gas here.

 
Gibbs, you have a fair point and i agree with your feelings, as a muslim, when i raise questions with fellow muslims, i often get the same responses as you do, and more often i get the stares to say "aren't you a muslim?".
It does seem that it is very difficult to talk about islam with fellow muslims without them going on the defensive and reacting in the way you have mentioned above.  But please rest assured there those of us who welcome dialogue and open debate and are open to questions being asked, but the other types are always the ones who seem to get the headlines.
I think there are two types of people those who start the sentence with "In Islam we believe that..................." thereby expressing the point of view as a muslim but also recognising that there are other points of views out there, and those who start with "The only and the right way is ......................" thereby dismissing the views and thoughts of all other points of views
Hope you find you stay in the other forums more beneficial to your needs.
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Originally posted by abuayisha abuayisha wrote:

Well fair enough pure columbian from a legalese standpoint, however given that we are living in a global village and actions by a relatively obscure individual in small town American could, and did have dire consequences across nation boarders, is there not at least some moral responsibility/accountability we can ask of Pastor Jones?
 
If the pastor is to be held accountable, then i guess we are all in danger of setting off unrest somewhere or another in whatever we may do or not do or in whatever we say or not say, and the only safest course of action would be to to have as little interaction with other people as possible. Cos i'm sure no matter what we say or do, they'll always be at least one person amongst the billions who inhabit the earth who will disagree with it
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Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

Originally posted by IssaEl999 IssaEl999 wrote:

Originally posted by Sign*Reader Sign*Reader wrote:

IssaEl999
 
Watlow Batavia did just fine law suit or no law suit if you like to know!
What part of the word employee  the employees of  Watlow Batavia didn't understand? Weren't they suppose to know and speak the language on their paychecks at least unless they were bunch of dummkopfs to begin with...



 
Never Argue With An *****. They Drag You Down To Their Level Then Beat You With Experience.

You got put down by the software for whatever expletive you used, that should be enough experience for starters...LOL
No matter how hard you try to be a smart Alec; doesn't work on the internet debate coz it is like running of the Special Olympics; even if you win are still  considered a social retard! So let me make this crystal clear I am not here to win! capisce amigo!Wink
 
 
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Originally posted by pure_columbian pure_columbian wrote:

Originally posted by Gibbs Gibbs wrote:

Interesting turn of events! This isn't about some koran burning or lybian rant, this is about how my stay here was. I remember in the beginning how I was accused of being some banned member, a troll, and some covert Zionist. Regardless of those false accusations I took it in stride, but I really am bothered by not learning.

As for the one who asked me about US history? Yes. I know about history. But if you're going to put the US on trial as well as Christianity or Judaism, let us put Islam on trial as it didn't have a far better and more peaceful history either.

My point is I did come to learn and more often I was just bombarded with accusations, conspiracies, US/Jewish hatred.

Frankly this website isn't really fair when it comes to protection.of other religions. I remembering making a derogatory statement about Christianity with no punishment, yet if someone remarks against islam negatively there is always moderation. I think if people are guided by Islamic principles and if and only if islam is indeed just, even simple computer needs that claim to be muslim should reflect those principles.

I really haven't had much time to blog but when I do I am on another site. I am sure its against forum rules to advertise other sites so I will say if you want to know just pm me. I will occasionally come back here time to time but I think my motivation to learn Islam has ran out of gas here.

 
Gibbs, you have a fair point and i agree with your feelings, as a muslim, when i raise questions with fellow muslims, i often get the same responses as you do, and more often i get the stares to say "aren't you a muslim?".
It does seem that it is very difficult to talk about islam with fellow muslims without them going on the defensive and reacting in the way you have mentioned above.  But please rest assured there those of us who welcome dialogue and open debate and are open to questions being asked, but the other types are always the ones who seem to get the headlines.
I think there are two types of people those who start the sentence with "In Islam we believe that..................." thereby expressing the point of view as a muslim but also recognising that there are other points of views out there, and those who start with "The only and the right way is ......................" thereby dismissing the views and thoughts of all other points of views
Hope you find you stay in the other forums more beneficial to your needs.
 
 
 
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